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Shuster: Rush and Hannity Don't Matter
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 02/07/2008 4:13:58 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Whoever says "Rush and Hannity Don't Matter", destroys their own credibility.

"Bipartisanship" Is A Dirty Word; and RUSH: "We want to defeat them"

21 posted on 02/07/2008 4:34:21 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: Jorge
Contrare.


The logic that one continues to do the same thing, over and over, and expecting different results is of itself flawed logic.


How many years has this been going on? And how many of us have swallowed the "lesser of evils" B/S?

No ... many of us have seen the enemy. It is was us.

22 posted on 02/07/2008 4:35:17 AM PST by G.Mason (And what is intelligence if not the craft of out-thinking our adversaries?)
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To: G.Mason

When Conservatives stick to principles the pendulum swings right!


23 posted on 02/07/2008 4:36:05 AM PST by omega4179 (Join the November Suicide Voters)
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To: Girlene
I don't think the Sean Hannitys and the Rush Limbaughs of the world matter at this point

Please, lets remind them of this when McHillary wants to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine.

24 posted on 02/07/2008 4:37:18 AM PST by MrPiper
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To: Northern Yankee
Things change.

Hold onto your hat.

Threat??

25 posted on 02/07/2008 4:37:32 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: kjo

>>>Had Kerry made the deal a little sweeter McCain would have run with him last time.

“” Newsweek November 5, 2004

Kerry’s courtship of Senator John McCain to be his running mate was longer-standing and more intense than previously reported. As far back as August 2003, Kerry had taken McCain to breakfast to sound him out to run on a unity ticket. McCain batted away the idea as not serious, but Kerry, after he wrapped up the nomination in March, went back after McCain a half-dozen more times.

“To show just how sincere he was, he made an outlandish offer,” Newsweek’s Thomas reports. “If McCain said yes he would expand the role of vice president to include secretary of Defense and the overall control of foreign policy. McCain exclaimed, ‘You’re out of your mind. I don’t even know if it’s constitutional, and it certainly wouldn’t sell.’”

Kerry was thwarted and furious. “”

So to summarize, Kerry offered McCain the VP, Secretary of State, AND Secretary of Defense roles. And McCain strongly campaigned for Bush instead. Just curious, what do you imagine would have been “sweeter” then the offer refused?


26 posted on 02/07/2008 4:39:04 AM PST by tlb
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To: kjo
Being a liberal is one thing, but stabbing us in the back is quite another, I may not vote for Hillary but will definitely not vote for McCain (unless Hillary chooses General Wesley Clark for VP - then I WILL vote for McCain)
27 posted on 02/07/2008 4:40:17 AM PST by razzle
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To: G.Mason
The logic that one continues to do the same thing, over and over, and expecting different results is of itself flawed logic.

Exactly, voting for RINO's is what has gotten us to this point in history. Bigger Gov, Bigger spending, etc, etc......

28 posted on 02/07/2008 4:40:40 AM PST by MrPiper
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To: Always Right

“Democratic president can turn back our progress 25 years.”

And the leader of the gang of fourteen will stop that?


29 posted on 02/07/2008 4:41:05 AM PST by SAWTEX
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“just to take a principled stand?”

No, we’ll take Obama/Hillary just to save some resemblance of conservatism in the Republican party, to not have it associated with all the compromises McCain will make to be Ted’s coauthor on future bills. To not confuse a generation of young conservatives as to what conservatism is. To remind our media what conservatism is. To not give shelter to the Democrats for the series of social programs they’re sure to initiate, with or without McCain as president.


30 posted on 02/07/2008 4:42:29 AM PST by elfman2 ("As goes Fallujah, so goes central Iraq and so goes the entire country" -Col Coleman, USMC ,4/2004)
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To: Recon Dad
“The logic in this statement is the same one that got us to where we are right now. It is the reason the GOP lost the leadership in the House and Senate and will probably lose the White House.”

No, the reason we are where we are right now is the RNC establishment continues to put up RINOs and conservatives have had enough. Conservatives have not abandoned the party, the RINOs have.

31 posted on 02/07/2008 4:42:43 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Everytime McCain reaches out to conservatives, conservatives get poked in the eye.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

When they say Rush and Sean dont matter, what they are really implying is WE dont matter. After all, it is because of the listeners that they have a voice and a job.


32 posted on 02/07/2008 4:44:17 AM PST by Long Island Pete
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To: omega4179
"When Conservatives stick to principles the pendulum swings right!"


I couldn't agree more.


Like my children when they were growing up, many of of the electorate have very few "principles". They live in a "gimme" world.


Not to be "holier than thou", but it is up to Conservatives to be parents and run a loving, but tight ship.

33 posted on 02/07/2008 4:44:41 AM PST by G.Mason (And what is intelligence if not the craft of out-thinking our adversaries?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Shuster never mattered.

I don’t bend over for him.


34 posted on 02/07/2008 4:50:05 AM PST by Nextrush (MCCAIN IS THE ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATE AND MUST BE DEFEATED AT ALL COSTS)
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To: ARE SOLE

Absolutely correct! Just a few months ago there was NO way that Rudy could be beaten, he was THE nominee, by golly, by gum, and the MSM knew it in their bones—look how that changed almost overnight! The MSM is fickle and trying to run this election, and we can NOT let them usurp the Constitution and take our most important rights away from ‘we the people’!!!

>:-(

Keep the faith, people, God will send us the best conservative out there to win this important race (I keep praying!)...


35 posted on 02/07/2008 4:51:52 AM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud Rush Conservative! WIN, FRED, WIN!!!)
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To: MrPiper

McCain could just as well do the same thing.

We’ll have to hope Congress blocks it or the courts overturn it.


36 posted on 02/07/2008 4:52:08 AM PST by Nextrush (MCCAIN IS THE ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATE AND MUST BE DEFEATED AT ALL COSTS)
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To: Nextrush

Thats why I said McHillary, they are one in the same.


37 posted on 02/07/2008 4:57:45 AM PST by MrPiper
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To: elizabetty

Mostly the voters in the Republican primaries. Ever hear the saying “better the devil I know then the devil I don’t know.” I hear a lot of “I will take Hillary over Mc Cain”. Personally I have a hard time believing that, but it’s looking more and more like it could be Obama and not Hillary. Think about that. The most Liberal Senator in the U.S. Senate who also has the endorsement of moveon.org. Are conservatives going to sit back and let that guy get elected? Speaking as a father of two career servicemen, that idea scares me to death. Wake up and sniff the coffee conservatives. If you allow Obama to get elected, you might as well allow Bin Laden to get elected.


38 posted on 02/07/2008 5:00:17 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: ARE SOLE; STARWISE
Who expected to be here at this point? A lot can happen that will change the landscape between now and the election. Things are not static. One or more members of the supremes could keel over, McCain could keel over, McCain could blow it by showing everyone his a$$ publically by losing it at conservatives, a last minute al queda attack as payback to GW before he leaves office. Any of these things and others could alter the equation.

Good points.

39 posted on 02/07/2008 5:08:56 AM PST by silent_jonny (Pray for President Bush, Pray for Mitt Romney, Pray for our Troops and Pray for our Nation.)
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To: G.Mason
" ... Are they willing, the conservatives, the Limbaughs, the Hannitys of the world, to concede the election, to not have John McCain be president, to take Hillary Clinton over them, just to take a principled stand? ..."

Absolutely!


Now or never. With either Clinton, Obama or McCain, there will be a 4-8 year push to legalize 12 to 60 million illegals.

GW Bush, McCain and Kennedy tried to neutralize the conservatives with their continued attempts at amnesty for illegals. McCain has basically indicated on some of the news talk programs that he would continue to push for 'comprehensive immigration reform' [that is still amnesty, although he, like GW, continues to deny it]. Obama and Clinton have both said they would push for CIR and legalizing illegals.

Huckabee and Romney have sort of committed to opposing amnesty.

This seems to be the field of candidates we are stuck with. At this stage, Romney seems to be the more preferrable, with Huckabee a second.
40 posted on 02/07/2008 5:09:58 AM PST by TomGuy
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