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Why Romney Failed
National Review ^ | February 8, 2008 | Byron York

Posted on 02/08/2008 4:02:17 AM PST by monkapotamus

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To: xzins
It was over in terms of the math.

On CNN John King showed how even if Romney were to win all the remaining states, he would still lose.

All McCain would have to do to get enough delegates is to win at least 30% of the vote in every state.

Not difficult at all. Romney knew it wasn’t going to happen.

101 posted on 02/08/2008 8:47:00 AM PST by JRochelle ("But dad, Eli is copying me!" Peyton)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
So...we now have a candidate who works w Massachusetts Sen Ted Kennedy....instead of someone merely living in the same state as Kennedy...

Uh, Flip and Teddy aren't exactly mortal enemies, either.


102 posted on 02/08/2008 8:48:38 AM PST by Antoninus (Looks like 2008 could be McCain vs. Hussein.)
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To: monkapotamus

Candidates must have the ability to know when their “handlers” are giving bad advice.

Romney’s farewell speech demonstrates that he was working with canned material, too oft repeated.

Had he written his own speeches and spoken from the heart, he’d still be running!


103 posted on 02/08/2008 8:52:04 AM PST by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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To: JRochelle

It depends on whether the remaining states are proportional states or Winner Take All (WTA) states.

My memory says I was read someplace that the bulk of the remaining states are WTA’s. I think the big prizes remaining are Texas, Ohio, Pennsylvania.


104 posted on 02/08/2008 8:55:24 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: xzins

No they are not. Most if not all are divided.

According to CNN. :)


105 posted on 02/08/2008 8:57:38 AM PST by JRochelle ("But dad, Eli is copying me!" Peyton)
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To: bigcat32
Christian Conservatives don’t vote for Mormons. The Christian Conservative vote went to The Huckster.

That's right. We Christians control the party. You better get used to it.

106 posted on 02/08/2008 9:09:35 AM PST by conservit
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To: JRochelle
according to CNN :)

LOL!

I agree....there's a source you can take to the bank.

107 posted on 02/08/2008 9:31:31 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: Etoo

I see that you just signed up, good for you. Based on your post I don’t think we’ll be talking much though.


108 posted on 02/08/2008 9:59:49 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: ChessExpert

Exactly right, Mitt was dealing with Massachusetts politics.


109 posted on 02/08/2008 10:01:41 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
Holy crap on a stick batman you mean Mitt has been supported by Kennedy?
110 posted on 02/08/2008 10:05:22 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: monkapotamus

“Romney . . . could never reconcile his past as a successful Massachusetts politician”

“. . . he was from one place, ideologically, and he acted as if he were from someplace else.”

“When Romney tried to present himself as the most conservative of conservative candidates — remember when he said, playing on Paul Wellstone’s old line, that he represented “the Republican wing of the Republican party”? — a lot of conservatives in Iowa and South Carolina and beyond didn’t quite know what to think. When they saw video of him in the fall of 2002 — not that long ago, during a debate in his run for Massachusetts governor — vowing to “preserve and protect a woman’s right to choose” five times in a relatively brief period of time, they didn’t quite know what to think. When they saw video of him almost indignantly saying that “I wasn’t a Ronald Reagan conservative” and “Look, I was an independent during the time of Reagan/Bush; I am not trying to return to Reagan/Bush” — they didn’t quite know what to think. And when they read the letter he wrote saying he would “seek to establish full equality for America’s gay and lesbian citizens” even more than Ted Kennedy, they didn’t quite know what to think.”

“Romney’s run from his past left a lot of voters asking: Who is this guy? He says he believes certain things deeply now, but he believed other things deeply not that long ago. And each time, it seems, his deeply-held beliefs jibed with what was most advantageous politically.”

This really says it all. Romney was defeated by his own words.


111 posted on 02/08/2008 10:18:40 AM PST by Lions Gate
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To: CharacterCounts

Thats a *really* good idea! And the solid red states should be ordered by Electoral votes or just how red they were? I say thresh hold them into 10 groups by the percentage of republican votes so this year would have been:

Utah
Wyoming
Idaho
Nebraska
Oklahoma

North Dakota
Alabama
Kansas
Alaska
Texas

Indiana
South Dakota
Mississippi
Kentucky
Montana

Georgia
South Carolina
Louisiana
Tennessee
North Carolina

West Virginia
Arizona
Arkansas
Virginia
Missouri

Colorado
Florida
Ohio
Nevada
Iowa

New Mexico
Wisconsin
New Hampshire
Pennsylvania
Michigan

Minnesota
Oregon
New Jersey
Delaware
Washington

Hawaii
Maine
Illinois
California
Connecticut

Maryland
New York
Rhode Island
Vermont
Massachusetts

I guess you could also tier them in groups then geographically match as much as possible...

e.g.

Instead of:

Utah
Wyoming
Idaho
Nebraska
Oklahoma

North Dakota
Alabama
Kansas
Alaska
Texas

Do this

Alabama
Kansas
Texas
Nebraska
Oklahoma

Alaska
Utah
Wyoming
Idaho
North Dakota

And so on


112 posted on 02/08/2008 10:19:45 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: bigcat32

Christian COnservative dont vote for someone who ran for his last office on:

‘maintain the status quo with abortion’
‘Im not one of those NRA guys’

We dont vote for someone who trashes Regan in hopes he can out liberal Ted Kennedy... The cult of ‘They wont vote for Mitt because he is a Mormon’ completely ignores reality..


113 posted on 02/08/2008 10:21:57 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: AFreeBird

So many Republicans were too busy throwing their panties at Willard to recognize he is a liberal liar.


114 posted on 02/08/2008 10:25:36 AM PST by Petronski (I didn't leave the GOP. The GOP left me.)
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To: N3WBI3

The cult of ‘They wont vote for Mitt because he is a Mormon’ completely ignores reality.

There is no question that Mitt Romney lost votes because he is a Mormon. That is part of reality. He lost votes because of other positions he takes but being a Mormon hurt him in the eyes of many voters.


115 posted on 02/08/2008 10:32:05 AM PST by bigcat32
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To: xzins

“They don’t vote for guys who’ve run as liberals their entire political life, and then all of a sudden turn conservative just in time for a campaign in which they needed to be conservative.”

I agree.

Mitt Romney is neither Christian or Conservative and I’m not surprised he couldn’t win the nomination.


116 posted on 02/08/2008 10:37:06 AM PST by bigcat32
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To: monkapotamus
There were lots of reasons:

people jealous of his money
people jealous of his looks
people jealous of his accompilshments in the busniess world
his being a Mormon - some people think very small and are bigots
people NOT letting go when Hunter pulled out and then when Thompson pulled out and they never gave Mitt a chance when he HAS been moving more and more into being a good conservative. It was easier for too many to just keep playing the Judge and jury that Mitt had been an independent. To them they forget that even on here I have seen a lot of people say they used to be a Democrat, but for Mitt to have been a independent is a sin. sheesh

This is just my take on it. We lost the best of the last three candidates when Mitt stepped down. Very sad indeed.

117 posted on 02/08/2008 10:43:09 AM PST by Brandie (Just a Dittohead that loves America. NO to Traitor McCain and No to Huck the Hick)
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To: taildragger

George Washington never met a payroll.


118 posted on 02/08/2008 10:53:30 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: TexanAmerican

It wasn’t.

It was installed by a change of definition of words, using the existing law, by a ruling of the Supreme Court.

Notwithstanding some poor arguments otherwise.

He certainly had differing views about individuals that are gay than some conservatives, but never supported gay marriage or civil unions. (he ended up signing off on a marriage amendmend with civil unions, because that’s all he could get out of the pro-gay-marriage legislature — and then that same legislature ended up voting it down by 75%).


119 posted on 02/08/2008 11:29:09 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: wagglebee

Grew up was the wrong word, because as you said he grew up in Michigan.

He lived most of his ADULT life in Mass. That’s what I meant.


120 posted on 02/08/2008 11:30:16 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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