(Hoax, see posts 256-271) Video captures grinning U.S. Marine throwing yelping puppy off cliff in Ir

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[TigersEye]

Just a little self-originized satire. heh heh
Can't go through life too serious like yer President of the world or somethin'. heh
Don't forget to get donut hole while you're here. Laura made 'em.

[BibChr]

Confirmed, yet again: Dirtboy Rocks

[Eagle Eye]

What would you say about men who talk about ‘bowling ball carry’ and playing tag with detached limbs?

“Times 12 and in a closed room.”

Ever hear that phrase?

[Eagle Eye]

[indcons]

Excellent post - I’ll remember to read your posts in the future.

[Types_with_Fist]

And we know it is alive how?

Just from what I've seen over the years, puppies do go motionless when picked up by the scruff of the neck -- which is the way the mother would pick them up. I didn't see anything in the video that leads me to believe the puppy was already dead. This should at least be investigated (I would do so first simply because it is bad PR to have Marines throwing puppies off of cliffs -- it's not something that should be excused or justified). If not fake, the act is disgusting and these Marines should get more than just a slap on the wrist.

[Savage Beast]

Thanks, Ind. We never know whether our rants are meaningful, harebrained, or what. Feedback, positive or negative, is helpful, and I appreciate it. I particularly appreciate your kind remarks. ~S

[F-117A]

That Snopes link is about another case.

Marine tossing yelping puppy. Snopes . "Undetermined" at time of this post.

[KeyLargo]

Duh, no kidding.

I only posted as a background for similar such schemes perpetrated against U.S. military personnel.

[F-117A]

Thanks for clearing that up.

[torchthemummy]

Everyone who has ever been responsible for the death of another being please report to the nearest cliff. All those who have not can pick up their halo in the mess hall where donut holes and Kool-Aid will be served.

"Hi. Welcome to the mess hall. Halo? heh heh No, he meant HALO, as in 'high altitude low opening' parachute drop. heh heh We're all out of parachutes but grab a donut hole and some Kool-Aid and these guys will get you loaded up for the drop. heh heh. You never hurt another living thing eh? heh heh, that's a good one. Don't you guys think that's a good one?"

Wow! That is some meaningless drivel.

[TigersEye]

I’ve been following your posts and trying to capture your style. ; )

[LowOiL]

I wish to be informed when the truth comes out on this. I personally am not sure if it was a hoax or not and neither does anyone else.

[Khepri]

Here's a bulletin flying around Myspace regarding this....

It contains a supposed "confession".

Here's the thing...I went to the guys alleged profile the prvious night and it had been delelted. So where did this supposed confession come from?

Now I'm even more suspicious and thinking it is indeed a hoax.

The bulletin as is (and don't give me any crap about names and addresses when this thing is flying all over the Net)


----------------- Bulletin Message -----------------
From: ANIMALS are SACRED
Date: Mar 5, 2008 5:26 PM


This is compiled information, if I was to credit all sources it would be too much of a mess to be effective. Hope everyone understands and passes this around. Thanks - Aunia Kahn

To Get All the LINKS and INFORMATION to work PLEASE Click "reply" and copy and paste all text into a new bulletin!

US Marine: David Motari AKA Puppy Killer

DAVID MORTARIO ALL INFORMATION
David Mortari
24419 Florence Acres Rd
Monroe, WA 98272-9662
(360) 794-7191

Mothers Work Number:
800-531-0021

BeBo Page: http://www.bebo.com/DavidMotari
His MySpace Page: http://www.myspace.com/davidmotari

THE VIDEO (Warning Disturbing)



DOG KILLERS EXCUSE - PLUS HE BASICALLY ADMITS GUILT
I want to clear somethings up before tomarrow. This might be hard to believe but I am sorry about the dog. At the time I just really didn't care. When you are constantly under fire sometimes people develope a different sence of humor than what others are used to. That video was from over a year ago and i dont know who put it out there but it wasn't me. It has been a real hard day. I don't know how they got my information but someone got all my information and i had to disconnect my parents and my womans phone. not to mention i had to redo my myspace because it got hacked. I just want this to end.

Who I'd like to meet:
Someone who gets what i'm going through

CONTACT HIS SUPERIOR
Major Chris Perrine Person In Charge Of The SCUM
PHONE NUMBER 808 257-8841
EMAIL christopher.perrine@usmc.mil


THE VIDEOS
Video
Video 2

NEWS & NEWS VIDEOS
KING5.com: Monroe Family Threatened over Video of Marine Tossing Pup (March 5, 2008)

The Honolulu Advertiser: Marines examining dog-toss video clip (March 4, 2008)

..kgmb9 - Marine Corps Investigates Alleged Puppy Torture (March 03, 2008)

KITV Honolulu: Marine Apparently Throws Puppy Off Cliff (March 3, 2008)




Also From: Alex Jones




ABC News Runs Defense For Puppy Killer

ABC News has weighed in on the shameful puppy killing video controversy - by running defense for the purpotrators and claiming that hurling the defenseless animal off a cliff was "a way of coping" with a stressful situation for the Marines involved.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2008/030508_runs_defense.htm

RADIO HOST SPEAKS OUT TO HELP INNOCENT ANIMALS


WHAT CAN YOU DO???
+ Write a letter from (more information below)
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+ Sign On Line Care2 Petition HERE
+ Sign On Line PETA Petition HERE
+ Add This MySpace Page (New & Updated Information on This Case.
+ Sign On-Line Petition HERE
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FULL CONTACT INFORMATION

UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS
Brigadier General Robert E. Milstead, Jr.
Director, Marine Corps Public Affairs
Division of Public Affairs - Command Element
CMC (PA), Headquarters Marine Corps
3000 Marine Corps; Pentagon 4B548
Washington, DC 20350-3000
ph: 703-614-1492/4080/8010; fax: 703-697-5362
email: robert.milstead@usmc.mil

General Michael Hagee, 33rd Commandant of the Marine Corps
ph: 703-614-1034; fax: 703-614-2358
email: comrel@hqmc.usmc.mil

MARINE CORPS BASE HAWAII
Colonel Mark A. Dungan, Commanding Officer
Richard A. Kirby GS12, Staff Secretary
Office of the Commanding Officer
Marine Corps Base Hawaii
Box 63002; MCBH Kaneohe Bay, HI 96863-3002
ph: DSN-457-8877, 808-257-8877
email: richard.a.kirby@usmc.mil

Marine Corps Base Hawaii, Public Affairs Office
c/o Community Relations Section
Marine Corps Base Hawaii
Box 63002; Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii 96863-3002
ph: 808-257-8840, 808-257-8875
email: MCBH.PAO.CR.FMB@usmc.mil

Military Police Department, Marine Corps Base Hawaii
Box 63062; Kaneohe Bay, HI 96863
Provost Marshal: 808-257-2103, ext 330
Provost Sergeant: 808-257-2103, ext 328
Criminal Investigation Division: 808-257-1305

U.S. DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE
PUBLIC CONTACT: ph: +1 703-428-0711 +1
U.S. Department of Defense ASK A QUESTION/SEND A COMMENT:
http://www.defenselink.mil/faq/questions.aspx

Dr. Robert Gates, Secretary of Defense
U.S. Department of Defense
1000 Defense Pentagon; Washington, DC 20301-1000

Gordon R. England, Deputy Secretary of Defense
1010 Defense Pentagon; Washington, DC 20301-1010

FORM LETTER

SAMPLE LETTER -- This letter is prepared to inform you about the issue.
Try to shorten and personalize your letter before sending.
===========================================================

United States Defense Leaders and Marine Corps:

Thank you for addressing the Marines recently videotaped taunting a
defenseless puppy. I urge you to aggressively investigate this crime and
take prompt punitive action.

As you know, a man identified as David Motari dangles a black and white dog
by the scruff of the neck, cooing: "Cute little puppy." Another unnamed
soldier baby-talks: "Ah, so cute, so cute...little puppy." To the horror of
global Internet viewers, Motari then hurls the animal over a cliff into a
rocky gulch. The dog, who looks about 12 weeks old, squeals while flying
through the air. We hear a thud below, signifying the dog's certain death.

"That was mean Motari," the unknown Marine jokes. Motari shrugs and grins.

The question is not WHO the victim is, but WHAT is done to him or her.
Criminologists view the brutality of an act, regardless of the victim's
identity, as a precursor to future violence. Animal cruelty is a key trait
in the American Psychiatric Association's criterion for conduct disorders.
David Motari displays characteristics associated with sociopaths.

I respectfully ask the Military Police Department of Hawaii, where Motari is
stationed, to conduct a thorough probe. If Motari and other suspects are
apprehended, please advocate maximum penalties for aggravated cruelty and
intentional killing of a companion animal. Certainly, Motari and his
accomplice ought to undergo psychological counseling.

This is not the first video leak of soldiers tormenting animals in Iraq. I
hope this case prompts Defense Department officials to make regulatory
changes for animals in war zones. Specifically, I encourage the DOD to:
* Insert an anti-cruelty clause in the Universal Code of Military Justice.
* Utilize non-lethal vaccination to cope with rabies in war zones.
* Permit soldiers to bring vetted pets back to the U.S. with them.

The men in the video do not represent other brave men and women who serve
our country. This is all the more reason to pursue rigorous judicial action
against the few who sully America's moral repute.

Thank you for holding animal abusers accountable for their violent crimes.

Sincerely,


MARINE CORPS BASE HAWAII PRESS RELEASE

Marine Corps Base Hawaii - Press Release
Release 25-08 | March 3, 2008

Public Affairs Office
Marine Corps Base Hawaii
For additional information contact:

Maj Christopher Perrine
(808) 257-8841
christopher.perrine@usmc.mil
http://www.mcbh.usmc.mil/pao/press.htm

Internet video of Marine mistreating puppy

MARINE CORPS BASE HAWAII, Oahu -- The video of a Marine mistreating a puppy gained widespread attention on the internet today. The video is shocking and deplorable and is contrary to the high standards we expect of every Marine.

This video came to our attention this morning, and we have initiated an investigation. We do not tolerate this type of behavior and will take appropriate action.

The vast majority of Marines conduct their duties in an honorable manner that brings great credit upon the Marine Corps and the United States. There have been numerous stories of Marines adopting pets and bringing them home from Iraq or helping to arrange life-saving medical care for Iraqi children. Those are the stories that exemplify what we stand for and how most Marines behave.

[MeanGreen2008]

I don’t think it’s fake. I’ve read the arguments about whether it’s fake or not... one of them saying that the pup doesn’t move. But in the first second of the video, you can see the dog lick its upper lip. It is limp because that is the natural instinct of a puppy when held by the scruff of the neck.

Second, it does make a “thud” sound when it hit the ground... I don’t think a stuffed animal would have done that.

That being said... this should not reflect on the Corps, and those left-wing kooks are just using this to promote their idiotic anti-war agenda.

[endthematrix]

I don’t think it’s fake either. And shouldn't reflect on the whole US military. If these guys found time to play puppy killer, they should’ve be spending more time at the front.

[LowOiL]

Thanks for the update.. if more comes out, I would appreciate a ping.

[BufordP]

Here’s someone who’s put together a collection of anti-troop videos:

http://www.youtube.com/user/petslover2008

[Tommyjo]

You are going to look incredibly stupid when the story pans out.