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Obama claims math still on his side [Clinton steals Texas]
AP via Yahoo! ^ | March 5, 2008 | TOM RAUM

Posted on 03/05/2008 3:54:38 AM PST by Brilliant

Barack Obama suffered a setback Tuesday in his efforts to drive rival Hillary Rodham Clinton out of the race for the Democratic presidential nomination, but claimed the delegate math still is on his side.

"We know this: No matter what happens tonight we have nearly the same delegate lead as we did this morning and we are on our way to winning this nomination," Obama told supporters after Clinton broke the Illinois senator's winning streak.

Obama immediately made plans to press ahead, with visits planned in the coming days to Wyoming and Mississippi — the next two contests — and an expected showdown next month in Pennsylvania.

Clinton won primries in Rhode Island, Ohio and Texas. But Obama still leads in the count of delegates who will decide the nomination.

He addressed supporters in front of the San Antonio Municipal Auditorium while the results in Texas — the biggest prize of the night — were up in the air.

Despite the night's split decisions, "We can stand up with confidence and clarity," Obama said.

Going into Tuesday's voting, Obama had won 11 straight victories. He won Vermont on Tuesday.

"In the weeks to come, we will begin a great debate about the future of this country," he said.

Obama's campaign momentum slowed in the week since the presidential debate in Cleveland. He emerged from that confrontation focusing his attention almost solely on Republican contender John McCain, all but ignoring Clinton as if he had already nailed down the Democratic nomination.

But he was thrown off-stride by a Clinton television ad portraying her as the leader who voters want on the phone when a crisis occurs in the middle of the night, "while your children are safe and asleep."

And over the past few days, he was dogged by allegations that he had overstated his opposition to the North American Free Trade Agreement to win votes in Ohio; and by his past ties to Chicago businessman Antoin "Tony" Rezko, who is on trial on political corruption charges.

Obama was returning to his hometown of Chicago on Wednesday to regroup.

Earlier Tuesday, Obama told reporters he expected a prolonged race, not the hoped for knock-out punch.

Clinton, he said, "is a tenacious and determined candidate. And so we're going to make sure that we work as hard as we can — as long as it takes."


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Ohio; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: clinton; obama; tx2008
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To: LibLieSlayer
and caucuses are plainly unAmerican.

People exercising their right to organize as they wish and choose their own candidates as they wish. Caucuses give more influence to those who wish to be more active in their party. Un-American huh? Please explain yourself.

61 posted on 03/05/2008 6:57:09 AM PST by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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To: LibLieSlayer
A person should be required to own property to vote.

What about those who rent apartments?

62 posted on 03/05/2008 6:57:25 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: dfwgator
How do you know that just as many Republicans didn’t cross over and vote for Obama?

Because they didn't get marching-orders from Limbaugh, Ingraham and the other Svengali's who concocted this asinine strategy. Now you'll get both Clinton... AND OBAMA... come November.

63 posted on 03/05/2008 7:01:50 AM PST by johnny7
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To: Nervous Tick

LOL! My thoughts had not gone as far as War of the Roses. Love the thought! And you are spot on.


64 posted on 03/05/2008 7:12:00 AM PST by Helen
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To: SW6906
Whom do you think will be easier for McCain to defeat: Hillary with her 49% negative approval

Please. Negative approval does not get positive votes for anyone. All Hillary has to do to win is keep a few McCain voters home and the MSM will do that for her.

65 posted on 03/05/2008 7:15:55 AM PST by palmer
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To: mombonn
However, he is MUCH more liberal than the witch, which ultimately would make him easier to defeat in spite of his charisma.

Absolutely right. The Hillary supporters here seem to have erased memory of Clinton 1992, or perhaps they weren't born yet.

66 posted on 03/05/2008 7:23:34 AM PST by palmer
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To: johnny7; dfwgator

I voted for Obama in Virginia long before the doofuses like Rush concocted their stratergy. I and many Hillary haters made Obama possible and we almost had it until the doofus stepped in.


67 posted on 03/05/2008 7:26:16 AM PST by palmer
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
I used to think a hillary-obama ticket was unbeatable. But over the last few days I’ve come to believe that if this scenario does take place, we’ve got several issues that we can use to McGovern them. Obama is good friends with a terrorist, bill clinton pardoned Puerto Rican terrorists to help hillary’s senate campaign. Obama made shady land deals, as did the clintons. Obama wants to pretend that al-qeada isn’t a threat to us in Iraq, the clintons did nothing to stop the Islamic fascists and we were hit time and time again. So appeasement just doesn’t work any time, anywhere. So there’s plenty of stuff to link this two as an inept and corrupt duo.
68 posted on 03/05/2008 7:34:55 AM PST by mainerforglobalwarming
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To: Hemingway's Ghost; jan in Colorado; Fred Nerks; expatguy; bayouranger; Just A Nobody
PING to #46.

I have had a bad feeling about this possibility since the beginning:

From an AP story this morning:

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Hillary Rodham Clinton is hinting at the possibility of sharing the Democratic presidential ticket with Barack Obama, but says voters still have to decide the party nominee.

Clinton says: "That may be where this is headed, but of course we have to decide who is on the top of ticket. I think the people of Ohio very clearly said that it should be me."

I'm not looking forward to seeing Obama resurrecting his take over, claiming he has some "experience" under his belt, for 2012, 2016 - or ever.

He needs to be thoroughly exposed and discredited NOW.

69 posted on 03/05/2008 7:42:51 AM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade)
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To: mombonn
clinton did not steal TX, the idiot republicans who voted for her gave it to her on a silver platter.

She still has almost zero chance of getting the number of delegates to win the nomination. She would have to take an average of over 53% of the remaining delegates...not at all likely.

70 posted on 03/05/2008 8:28:19 AM PST by Mogollon (Vote straight GOP for congress....our only protection against Obama-Clinton, or McCain.)
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To: knarf
I don’t understand it myself. It seems to be a waste of time and resources for everyone involved?

LLS

71 posted on 03/05/2008 8:29:08 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Could I ever vote for mcstain? osamabama hussein may convince me yet!)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Buy a postage stamp lot somewhere. Americans were required to own property to vote, until the welfare state was born.

LLS

72 posted on 03/05/2008 8:30:25 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Could I ever vote for mcstain? osamabama hussein may convince me yet!)
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To: SampleMan
One man... one vote... it was envisioned by our Founders... but not so PC these days.

LLS

73 posted on 03/05/2008 8:31:27 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Could I ever vote for mcstain? osamabama hussein may convince me yet!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
One man... one vote... it was envisioned by our Founders...

Everyone that wants to take part in a caucus can. Do you even know what a caucus is?

If I start a political party and decide that members must be land owners, green eyed, and that candidate selection will be accomplished via a public forum, what business is it of your's to attempt to outlaw it?

74 posted on 03/05/2008 8:54:30 AM PST by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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To: Brilliant
Obama claims math still on his side [Clinton steals Texas]

Now Obama knows what it feels like to be a Republican candidate:
lead all night long, then a slug of votes for the opponent "appear".

(I'm not saying Hillary! stole the TX primary with "created"
ballots, but Obama got a taste of how things often go for Republican
candidates.)
75 posted on 03/05/2008 8:57:08 AM PST by VOA
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To: twinzmommy

While waiting for my precinct convention last night, I had one woman tell me her Republican daughter and son-in-law decided to go to the Democrat primary and vote for Hillary to keep her “in” and fighting with Obama, and then the man next to me said he knew a couple guys at his job that were doing the exact same thing!


76 posted on 03/05/2008 9:00:25 AM PST by GOP_Thug_Mom (libera nos a malo)
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To: Zero Sum
Clinton television ad portraying her as the leader who voters want on the phone when a crisis occurs in the middle of the night, "

By inference, Bill will be at Hillary's side in bed at three a.m., and supposedly his judgment would be better than Barak's. One might think Bill would be in someone else's bed, but Jack Nicholson remind us, "there's nothing sexier than a woman you have to salute in the morning."

77 posted on 03/05/2008 9:04:22 AM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: SampleMan
Quit trying to be the brightest bulb on the tree and understand that I think a caucus is asinine... that is my opinion... and they have allowed certain people to control the outcome... like mcnasty did when he ordered his people to go with huckleberry, stopping a certain victory by mitt. I do not like it when anything circumvents a person’s vote in the primary. Now I was not invested in that situation but it allowed what I consider to be actions that negate a person’s vote. You see it differently. The difference... I respect your opinion and you do not respect mine.

LLS

78 posted on 03/05/2008 9:36:55 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Could I ever vote for mcstain? osamabama hussein may convince me yet!)
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To: Veto!
but Jack Nicholson remind us, "there's nothing sexier than a woman you have to salute in the morning."

I was with you until I remembered you were talking about Hillary.

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little...

79 posted on 03/05/2008 10:22:49 AM PST by Zero Sum (Liberalism: The damage ends up being a thousand times the benefit! (apologies to Rabbi Benny Lau))
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To: Pikachu_Dad
If he overwhelmingly won the caucus and they essentially tied in the vote... how is it again that he does not take more delegates from Texas?

The caucus votes are still being counted at the moment. At the current time, with all the popular vote counted, Clinton won 65 delegates and Obama won 61, a net gain of four delegates on Obama.

But of the caucus delegates awarded so far, Obama is leading 10-7 in delegate count. He might well end up with more delegates from Texas than Clinton when the dust settles.

80 posted on 03/05/2008 10:30:34 AM PST by Dog Gone
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