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Parents of 166,000 students could face criminal charges
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | March 05, 2008 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 03/06/2008 3:27:24 AM PST by Man50D

A breathtaking" ruling from a California appeals court that could subject the parents of 166,000 students in the state to criminal sanctions will be taken to the state Supreme Court.

The announcement comes today from the Pacific Justice Institute, whose president, Brad Dacus, described the impact of the decision as "stunning."

"The scope of this decision by the appellate court is breathtaking," he said. "It not only attacks traditional homeschooling, but also calls into question homeschooling through charter schools and teaching children at home via independent study through public and private school."

"If not reversed, the parents of the more than 166,000 students currently receiving an education at home will be subject to criminal sanctions," he said.

WND broke the story of the ruling that came in a case involving the family of Phillip and Mary Long of Los Angeles.

The decision from the 2nd Appellate Court in Los Angeles granted a special petition brought by lawyers appointed to represent the two youngest children after the family's homeschooling was brought to the attention of child advocates. The lawyers appointed by the state were unhappy with a lower court's ruling that allowed the family to continue homeschooling, and specifically challenged that on appeal.

Justice H. Walt Croskey, whose opinion was joined by two other judges, then ordered: "Parents who fail to [comply with school enrollment laws] may be subject to a criminal complaint against them, found guilty of an infraction, and subject to imposition of fines or an order to complete a parent education and counseling program."

The determination reversed a decision from Superior Court Judge Stephen Marpet, who ruled "parents have a constitutional right to school their children in their own home."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: cwii; homeschool
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To: B-25 Bomber
Well then, I guess that bush is pulling the crap that klintoon WANTED to.

WHY did no one notice?

41 posted on 03/06/2008 5:57:00 AM PST by mommadooo3 (Old concept in justice. If the law won't take care of it, it's just us.)
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To: Sparkles

PING


43 posted on 03/06/2008 5:59:32 AM PST by tazman3
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To: don-o

I’m thinking I’d like to know more about the actual facts of the case and what the court actually ruled *on those facts.*

Regardless of the form of school, children can still become truant. IOW, a child who is homeschooled still has to be schooled in some way, regardless that the schedule can be quite flexible and there is no requirement for a particular number of hours spent on schooling, etc.

For example, I know several homeschool children on the “university model”-—they have three days of classes a week and then do independent study (the equivalent of homework) whenever they like by the end of the week. If they happen to be at a mall, for example, during “public school hours,” they are with a parent, not hanging out there alone.

If this were a case where it was clear that the children were not “attending” any kind of school, including a homeschool, and perhaps were consistently found in public places without adult supervision during “public school hours,” and someone reported them truant or neglected, it would be unlikely that any ruling, even if upheld on appeal, would extend beyond those kind of facts.


44 posted on 03/06/2008 6:00:07 AM PST by fightinJAG (Rush was right when he used to say: "You NEVER win by losing.")
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To: B-25 Bomber
CWII is just around the corner.

People have predicted CWII for at least fifty years.

There were a heck of a lot more people ready and able to shoot when Eisenhower sent troops WITH FIXED BAYONETS into Alabama than there are now.

It should happen, but until it does happen I will not make any bets.

Best regards,

46 posted on 03/06/2008 6:05:46 AM PST by Copernicus (Mary Carpenter Speaks About Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: kalee

don’t ping me, I already see it.


47 posted on 03/06/2008 6:08:17 AM PST by Cailleach
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To: calex59

“Communist re-education camps”

A CA state legislator has introduced a bill protecting teachers who wish to “inculcate” their students in the virtues of communism and the overthrow of the US government to implement it. I am NOT pulling your leg.

Wasn’t too long ago that they passed a law about not using “father” & “mother”, “husband” & “wife” because it would be exclusionary to gay “families”.


48 posted on 03/06/2008 6:13:19 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Man50D
IS this about homeschooling?, or about generating more revenue for the state
by means of money per childs head collected?

It must be the latter. California is drunk with greed.

49 posted on 03/06/2008 6:14:05 AM PST by MaxMax (I need a life after politics)
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To: napscoordinator
I can’t even imagine that the State of California has the resources to go after 100,000 people when they can’t even seem to find one illegal. If they pass this, most homeschoolers will just go into hiding and California will never find them.

The school system would. 10 years ago each of those children represented $7,000 to the school system. I wonder what they are worth today, especially in a California school system.

Every time this has been tried by a state before, they have lost. HSLDA is right.

50 posted on 03/06/2008 6:14:50 AM PST by Lady Heron
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To: B-25 Bomber

Anyone who cares about their kids and hasn’t left the facist Republic of California already, really needs their heads examined.


51 posted on 03/06/2008 6:20:38 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Man50D; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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52 posted on 03/06/2008 6:22:08 AM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: thecabal

Unfortunately, I think you’re correct.


53 posted on 03/06/2008 6:22:12 AM PST by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: fifthvirginia
Coming from the Peoples Republic of California, I am NOT surprised

Yeah, isn't it great we threw Gray Davis out for a REPUBLICAN governor, with all his great REPUBLICAN values like limited government, lower taxes etc etc etc.
54 posted on 03/06/2008 6:26:00 AM PST by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Lady Heron; napscoordinator

The school system would. 10 years ago each of those children represented $7,000 to the school system.
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Napscooerdinator,

In Maryland, the government school workers ask the government institutionalized children if there are any children in their neighborhood who are not attending the government indoctrination camp. The captive government children then give the names of the families who are using private or home schools.

Simple! Government institutionalized children are the government’s “informers”!


55 posted on 03/06/2008 6:35:55 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: hedgetrimmer; fifthvirginia
Yeah, isn't it great we threw Gray Davis out for a REPUBLICAN governor, with all his great REPUBLICAN values like limited government, lower taxes etc etc etc.
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I believe the reason the right wing talk show hosts are silent about the California school issues ( Rush and Sean in particular) is that they shilled and pushed for Schwarzenegger to be elected.

56 posted on 03/06/2008 6:48:42 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Man50D
This decision requires all 166,000 CA homeschoolers and any sympathetic folks to go into 100% freak out mode until the decision is reversed. The black-robed tyrants need to know that they're not going to get away with this.

This includes protests, civil disobedience, and flat out refusing to obey this unjust law made by an unelected official.
57 posted on 03/06/2008 6:49:26 AM PST by Antoninus (Tell us how you came to Barack?)
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To: napscoordinator

It’s not that they can’t find the illegals, it’s that they DON’T WANT TO FIND THEM. They can find homeschoolers because the government views them as the enemy.


58 posted on 03/06/2008 6:57:03 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: B-25 Bomber

I am SOOOO ashamed and dirty feeling. I voted BOTH times for this PUKETUS.(POTUS)


59 posted on 03/06/2008 6:58:14 AM PST by mommadooo3 (Old concept in justice. If the law won't take care of it, it's just us.)
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To: MaxMax
IS this about homeschooling?, or about generating more revenue for the state by means of money per childs head collected?

It's one of many methods used by socialists to replace our Democratic Republic with Socialism.
60 posted on 03/06/2008 6:59:22 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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