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To: GVnana

I hope it encourages them to get some credentials.


3 posted on 03/07/2008 6:38:44 PM PST by humblegunner (™)
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I hope it encourages them to get some credentials.

Have you ever looked at the kind of ridiculous junk you have to go through to be certified as a teacher? It has little or nothing whatever to do with any realistic qualifications for teaching.

There are various helpful guides to homeschooling, but that's quite a different matter from being certified by some nutball school of education.

12 posted on 03/07/2008 6:45:16 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: humblegunner
I hope it encourages them to get some credentials.

The credentials are called "parent."

What chapter of the NEA do you worship at?

14 posted on 03/07/2008 6:46:50 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (dehumanize: the model prescribes the required behavior. disincentives ensure compliance.)
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My direct experience with getting teaching credentials is that it is a costly, time-consuming process that is frustrating beyond belief for someone who is reasonably intelligent. The classes required primarily exist to provide employment for those who got their PhD in “Education”.

I found that about 1 in 10 classes required to acquire a teaching credential is worthwhile. That one class is, again based on my direct experience, typically a class on different ways to approach teaching a concept (in my case the methods class was in math).

I got so fed up with it, I decided to get a job as a software engineer.


17 posted on 03/07/2008 6:47:40 PM PST by poindexters brother
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Just got off the phone with a friend who is a teacher. She’s burnt out, not because of the kids but all of the paperwork she has to hand into the state, leaving less time for her to teach.


30 posted on 03/07/2008 6:57:35 PM PST by panthermom (Obama!!! The American Idol Candidate)
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The enemy, and their socialist agenda:

"Union pleased with ruling

The ruling was applauded by a director for the state's largest teachers union.

"We're happy," said Lloyd Porter, who is on the California Teachers Association board of directors. "We always think students should be taught by credentialed teachers, no matter what the setting."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/03/07/MNJDVF0F1.DTL

36 posted on 03/07/2008 7:04:34 PM PST by GVnana ("They're still analyzing the first guy. What do I have to worry about?" - GWB)
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To: humblegunner

The public school teachers can come to me for their credentials. I require that they be able to read with excellent comprehension, write legibly and logically, have a true and patriotic view of American history, be able to intelligently analyze and solve math problems, have no pederast or pedophile tendencies, and vow to never push their personal political agenda on the classroom.

Then maybe I’ll let them teach my kids. Until I am satisfied that they meet my standards, I’ll teach my own without apology.


63 posted on 03/07/2008 7:26:56 PM PST by Marie2 (I used to be disgusted. . .now I try to be amused.)
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To: humblegunner
"I hope it encourages them to get some credentials."

What, on your planet, is a "credential," hm? Let's start with that. Extend your argument to address how such a "credential" will increase the ranks of home-schooled kids in the upper ranks of achievement tests.
84 posted on 03/07/2008 7:51:28 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([Fred Thompson/Clarence Thomas 2008!])
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no one in the school was ever concerned with our credentials when we had to assist with the homework, correct it with them,
and then review it all.


120 posted on 03/07/2008 8:42:02 PM PST by catroina54
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To: humblegunner
I hope it encourages them to follow the home school curricula that they already follow. To hell with certification.
127 posted on 03/07/2008 9:02:21 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Some think McCain should pick his No 2 now. I thought the nominee was No 2. And that No 1s me off!)
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Private school teachers are often not credentialed. I don’t know if there’s any data out there showing that credentialed teachers are more effective than non-credentialed ones.


128 posted on 03/07/2008 9:02:29 PM PST by olivia3boys
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To: humblegunner

Don’t let your rock fall on your head when you crawl back under it.


176 posted on 03/08/2008 4:15:51 AM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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Credentials prove NOTHING! All of my California high school teachers were credentialed and only a few of them taught me anything.

We have homeschooled our seven children. I have a doctorate, but not in anything you are likely to think certifies me as a teacher. Neither my wife or I are “credentialed” in the government's or NEA’ opinion, but we are credentialed by the One who led us to home school and has blessed our children (three grown and away from home; two married -— ALL serving the Lord) with uncountable blessings.

Correct principles trump credentials any day of the school year.

188 posted on 03/08/2008 6:02:12 AM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: humblegunner
I hope it encourages them to get some credentials.

Right, because it plain for anyone to see what a superior job the army of "credentialed" teaches in the government schools are doing.

And those boorish home schoolers, winning spelling bee's and geography bee's and such. HA! What, do they think "teaching" is about reading and writing and useless crap like that? Get serious people. It's about creating good little worker bees to labor for the glory of the greater good.

How are we going to accomplish that with people who haven't been to government approved "education collages" to get their indoctri...ah teaching credentials.

Ignorant rubes.

200 posted on 03/08/2008 7:26:30 AM PST by Jotmo (I Had a Bad Experience With the CIA and Now I'm Gonna Show You My Feminine Side - Swirling Eddies)
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I hope it encourages them to get some credentials.

Because California's cree-denshuled teachers do such a wunnerful job edumacatin' the chilluns! Uh-huh. Yahsureyoubetcha!

202 posted on 03/08/2008 7:31:10 AM PST by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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Credentials? You got to be joking! How about some fisting-gate of credentials for you! In a free society the people credentiates the standards and the government, not the other way around. There is no control once those jack-a$$ in government are empowered just like those courts to prove.

I am a flight instructor, and guess what, the schools think I am not credentiated to teach there, even though I can teach any kid the technology behind flying and a high responsability task that flying it.

The credentials they want is be stupid and empowered retard thug just like them.


206 posted on 03/08/2008 7:51:31 AM PST by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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“I hope it encourages them to get some credentials.”

I hope it encourages them to get torches and pitchforks and burn the damn teacher’s union HQ down.


211 posted on 03/08/2008 8:03:28 AM PST by DesScorp
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Congratulations!! You win the Most Ignorant Comment Award for this post.

Home schooled children have to take benchmark tests administered by California repeatedly throughout the year to make sure they are learning.

It might interest you to hear that home schooled children here in California are scoring a full two grade levels higher than their state educated contemporaries.

The teacher’s union head is happy because there was no other way they could compete against vastly better educated children that are home schooled. They were losing more students each year. So an activist judge just eliminated the competition so the useless state can keep their indoctrination camps running. Who cares if students are learning less and less each year.

Eliminating something that is producing better educated students on average is a BAD thing. This ruling is going to hurt us all in the long run because there will be more poorly educated people in our future.


242 posted on 03/08/2008 10:02:49 AM PST by CCGuy (USAF (Ret.))
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" I teach at a private Christian college prep school with the following stats: 1)99% of our kids go to college (the only ones who don't, delay for milliary service) 2) 80% of our kids get scholarship $$ 3) ONLY about 20% of our faculty ARE EDUCRATS! (and most of those are at the elementary level) Because we allow our teachers to be part time, we have professionals with ADVANCED DEGREES IN THE SUBJECT AREA THEY TEACH. (something unheard of in public screwells) Teaching creditials HINDER learning.
246 posted on 03/08/2008 10:12:22 AM PST by Mrs.Z ("...you're a Democrat. You're expected to complain and offer no solutions." Denny Crane)
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I hope it encourages them to get some credentials.

So, let me get this straight: I graduated from high school (first person on one side of the family to ever do so), have at times been in charge of a $26 million airplane and up to 80 human lives, graduated from community college with high honors, sit on the board of two local non-profits, run my own business (part of which is being managing editor of a national trade magazine) and lead a Cub Scout pack, but I'm not qualified to teach my youngest son third grade Math and English? I also wasn't qualified to teach my daughter to read or teach any of the Math, English, Science or History I've imparted to them (a sixth grader and a fifth grader) so far?

With all due respect, I'd like an explanation on why you think I'm such an inept troglodyte dipstick.

257 posted on 03/08/2008 10:48:28 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (It is not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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good teachers are good teachers despite their “credentials”.

The only reason I made it through math during school is because I’m the daughter of an electrical engineer.
I only had 2 competent math teachers prior to my college years.

Thanks dad!


283 posted on 03/08/2008 2:10:00 PM PST by Scotswife
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