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Then the article closes with:

'Gates also said the United States needs to improve science and math education to train a new generation of tech leaders, reversing a move away from these fields.

"If we don't reverse these trends, our competitive advantage will continue to erode. Our ability to create new high-paying jobs will suffer," Gates said.'

Well, Bill, the thing is that your reliance on low-cost (yes, the H1B program is all about lowering cost) foreign talent is one of the main things that's driven Americans away from tech careers. Engineering salaries have largely been stagnant, at best keeping up with inflation, over these many years you've been complaining about this 'shortage'. According to simple supply and demand, this shouldn't be so.

The fact of the matter is, pay what you should and there will be plenty of American engineering talent. There are other issues, in particular the pervasive anti-intellectualism in America these days, but this is the worst problem.

1 posted on 03/12/2008 8:59:03 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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Yeah, really.....a friend of ours worked at MicroSoft.....trained his “Indian” replacements before he was laid off.....


2 posted on 03/12/2008 9:00:17 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character; Being Coddled Destroys Character)
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How bout paying more mister Billionaire?


3 posted on 03/12/2008 9:01:05 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting CONSERVATIVE in memory of 5 children killed by illegals 2/17/08 and 2/19/ 08)
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With all due respect, Microsoft products do not represent even close to state of the art in anything and their quality long ago achieved a new low. Who the heck cares? Let Gates outsource all he wants. His company has never produced anything new, and never will. Let nature take its course and soon Microsoft will go the way of the Yugo.


4 posted on 03/12/2008 9:02:10 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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What an idiot! Problem is his greed.
Yes, American schools and colleges don’t teach the right things - they teach junk, feminist studies, hate-Whitey studies, black studies and queer studies. However, there are millions of Americans who are qualified in spite of all this nonsense. Like those who finished school a few decades ago.


5 posted on 03/12/2008 9:04:00 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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Yep, Bill Gates is driving down tech salaries to embarrassing levels and then wants American kids to study science and math for peanut wages.

Bill Gates... you are a college dropout. Now bugger off with that crap operating system of yours.


7 posted on 03/12/2008 9:04:20 AM PDT by avacado
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It’s easy to just say Microsoft should pay their code-crankers more money but cranking code ain’t what it used to be. Further, people do indeed like it when Microsoft shares in their 401K’s produce profit. So... usually company’s caught in this dilemma pack up and move.


9 posted on 03/12/2008 9:05:53 AM PDT by rhombus
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Dear Bill,
1. Raise the salaries and U. S. citizens will do the jobs.

2. Use the Gates Foundation’s billions to train workers who have lost their jobs in manufacturing to learn tech jobs.

3. Learn a little public relations. Having the richest man in the world complaining that he can’t get U. S. workers to work at the salary someone from India is willing to take is more than a bit hypocritical. Spend your billions on suffering U. S. workers instead of in Africa.


11 posted on 03/12/2008 9:06:39 AM PDT by californianmom
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Either one of two things should be done with H1B visas.

1. They should be tied to the employee rather than the employer. That way a foreign employee's wages would very quickly match a native's of similar skill because the employer couldn't underpay the employee and give them the choice of accepting it or leaving the country.

2. (mutually exclusive from number 1) If the H1B has to remain with the employer, then its price should be set by the employers bidding for slots rather than having a low fixed price. That way the H1B would go back to its original purpose of bringing in foreign workers with unique and highly valuable skills rather than just another hundred cheap Visual Basic programmers for under the market pay. A company might be willing to pay $50k to bring in an advanced semiconductor researcher but not someone to man a help desk. The fact that over 65,000 applications are made in the first week for the visas shows that they are way under priced.

12 posted on 03/12/2008 9:08:19 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Rattenschadenfreude: joy at a Democrat's pain, especially Hillary's pain caused by Obama.)
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So because of restrictive immigration laws, the choice is either to have good jobs in America taken away illegally, through loopholes, or legally by changing the immigration laws.

Good thinking, Billy Boy. You left out one critical aspect of this debate: corporate greed. I love the free market and Capitalism as much as anyone, but the reality is that corporations, like MS will always be looking for ways to cut costs. If he got everything he asked for, Billy Boy would be figuring out some other way make higher profits, regardless of what effect that may have on local shops or the country at-large.

He respects no border line, only the bottom line.

14 posted on 03/12/2008 9:12:03 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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This may come as a shock to you, Bill, but some of us see the United States as more than simply an economy.


15 posted on 03/12/2008 9:12:22 AM PDT by skeeter
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As someone who has been using Bill's Products for more years than I care to admit (going back to Windows 95), not to mention all of the failures, crashes, lost data, near-nervous breakdowns, etc., I have one thing to say to Mr. Gates:

F*CK MICROSOFT

22 posted on 03/12/2008 9:29:45 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All)
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Force the a**hole to outsource, and hit him hard with outsourcing tariffs. That's what I'd do if I were "king" of the country. Punish him for not hiring home-grown talent at a decent wage. After all, what's the difference between outsourcing and bringing foreign programmers here? Either way, American programmers have no chance at getting those jobs.

But keep throwing away billions on "fighting" AIDS in Africa, Gates. You know how to make money (*cough* by outsourcing and screwing the skilled American worker *cough*), but you sure don't know how to spend it.

23 posted on 03/12/2008 9:30:38 AM PDT by Tarkus2040 ("Anything is possible if you don't know what you're talking about." --Barry Farber)
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Oh, that Bill...he says the darndest things! He’s just cute as a button when he says stuff like that. Always good for a chuckle. Money sure doesn’t equal greatness.


24 posted on 03/12/2008 9:30:44 AM PDT by polymuser (Those who believe in something eventually prevail over those who believe in nothing.)
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ping


26 posted on 03/12/2008 9:37:14 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; The majority are satisfied with a just master. -- Sallust)
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It’s not just greed on Gates’ part.

He has all those stockholders to consider, doesn’t he?

Still deplorable though.

He is creating the vicious circle.

Truth be told, they don’t really want to hire Americans, period.


27 posted on 03/12/2008 9:38:33 AM PDT by Califreak (Hangin' with Hunter-under the bus "Dread and Circuses")
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29 posted on 03/12/2008 9:41:43 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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30 posted on 03/12/2008 9:41:50 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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If this were true, then why do hi-tech companies pack seminars explaining how not to hire Americans so they can get H1B's instead?

Carnegie Mellon American IT gradutes right here in Pittsburgh caught them on film right here in Pittsburgh at such a seminar just two years ago. There was enough embarassment over the fallout that some of the American graduates actually got hired.

CMU is still turning out graduates and they are still looking for jobs.

33 posted on 03/12/2008 9:44:55 AM PDT by Vigilanteman ((Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud))
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US high-tech companies are being forced to outsource more jobs overseas because of outdated restrictions on immigration, Microsoft chairman Bill Gates told Congress Wednesday.

He is such a liar! Thousands of Americans were laid off of the very jobs he's talking about. WHY, can't he rehire them? Oh, sorry. I forgot. Because he can rape overseas workers for less than Americans will work for. Not surprising coming from a liberal globalist. Will someone please explain to me what credentials give him the right to go before Congress to begin with? He is NOT an elected representative of Americans. I'm fed up with these wealthy elitists telling our Congress critters what America needs to do.

37 posted on 03/12/2008 10:01:31 AM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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WOW....

Stunning to see so much populist, anti-free trade, pro-protectionism sentiment here on Free Republic.


38 posted on 03/12/2008 10:05:45 AM PDT by Chameleon
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