Posted on 03/23/2008 5:49:23 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
They dodged one bullet, with a loaded machine gun still firing.
He is quite agressive but in this market you have to be. Some have nailed it.
Well how can any two parties create a financial agreement over somthing that does not exist? Or couldn’t possibly exist?
"American consumers might benefit if lenders provided greater mortgage product alternatives to the traditional fixed-rate mortgage."~~Alan Greenspan, February 22, 2004
“The use of a growing array of derivatives and the related application of more-sophisticated approaches to measuring and managing risk are key factors underpinning the greater resilience of our largest financial institutions.”~~Alan Greenspan, May 2005
"We're not about to go into a situation where (real estate) prices will go down. There is no evidence home prices are going to collapse."~~Alan Greenspan, May 21, 2006
“The damage from the subprime market has been largely contained. Fortunately, the financial system and the economy are strong enough to weather this storm.”~~Richard Fisher, Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas President, Apr 4, 2007
"All that said, given the fundamental factors in place that should support the demand for housing, we believe the effect of the troubles in the subprime sector on the broader housing market will likely be limited, and we do not expect significant spillovers from the subprime market to the rest of the economy or to the financial system."~~Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke, May 17, 2007
Hey Travis, I hope everything is good in your corner! Happy Easter to you!
So far so good! Hope yours was nice too.
A “credit default swap” is nothing more than insurance against a borrower going bankrupt (reallly just a guaranty). If I loan you $1,000 and then pay $10 to your Daddy for him to agree to cover the loan if you default, I swapped $10.00 for insurance against the risk of your default. Make it corporations and banks instead of us chickens (and add lots of zwros), and you have “credit default swaps.”
A reinsurance chain is just a series of agreements among insurance companies. If I agree to insure your $300,000 home against fire loss, then get my brother to agree to pick up (or reinsure) $50,000 of the loss if your house burns down, and then my brother gets his girlfriend to agree to pick up $25,000 of his obligation if the house burns down, we have spread around, or diversified, the risk of a fire. Make it corporations and insurance companies instead of us chickens (and add lots of zeros), and you have a “reinsurance chain.”
Your posts prove to take risk in your own hands and quit listening to these hacks.
I enjoy them, actually. The threads would be dull without their input, and would peter out after 20 or so replies.
I hear ya! I just piss everybody off on these threads because my investment rides with people much smarter than me when it comes to the big picture.
I see financial crises as needing three strong elements. The first is vast amounts of leverage. The second is that they must be too swift for efforts to stop them. And the third is that the efforts to stop them are either not done, nor effective.
We have the excessive leverage.
However, everybody is now aware of the problem, and for all of the bearish cheerleaders for recession, there is enough time to act to counter much of the instability. This takes care of the second problem.
This leaves the third element. Will whatever is being done, work? While most eyes are on Bernanke, he is not working alone. In just the US alone, from the Secretary of the Treasury on down, not just in the government, but in business as well, all have irons in the fire. Internationally, the same applies, with the central banks and finance ministers. All with ideas.
Since all the major players are involved, the situation becomes one of confidence. Ironically, while everyone knows that the system is a house of cards, if these leaders believe that the house of cards will continue to stand, it will take away most of the pressure for it to fall.
This creates even more time to act. Eventually, when an adjustment happens to reduce the real problem, it will hopefully be just tying up loose ends.
Every day the crisis doesn’t happen means it is less likely to.
Hedge funds can kiss it!
Sell Investment Bank and Fannie & Freddie stock . . .
And Abolished the Federal Reserve.
Last updated: March 23 2008 22:46
An Anglo-French summit on Thursday will put renewed pressure on banks to agree to “full and immediate disclosure” of the scale of their bad debts, reflecting heightened political concerns about instability in financial markets.
Gordon Brown, the British prime minister, and Nicolas Sarkozy, France’s president, will make the call for greater bank transparency a central element of their talks in the UK this week. European finance ministers said in January that slow and inconsistent disclosure of bad debts by banks exposed to the subprime market was damaging confidence.
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This weekend’s meeting of four heads of central banks communicates the size of the OTC derivative disaster. It is a system that is broken. A bailout will require the printing of trillions of dollars worth of monetary stimulation making Bernanke’s helicopter drop look like chump change.
The dollar number of pending derivative bankruptcies is the size of the mountain of garbage paper issued by just those who are to be bailed out. That number is greater than the total world economies.
There simply isn’t enough money in the world for central banks to buy up the mountain of worthless paper sold by those who need bailouts; all of which made fortunes for their directors, officers and key people.
When an OTC derivative fails to perform, notional value becomes real value. The notional value of all OTC derivatives exceeds $500 trillion.
Credit default swaps (OTC derivatives) alone account for over $20 trillion dollars of notional value and are failing. Major dealers in these items, Lehman and JP Morgan, had their debt downgraded last week.
Maintaining the AAA rating on debt of public companies primarily issuing default swaps as credit guarantees is a sick joke of fabrication. This is a joke that in all probability will lead to litigation that destroys the rating companies.
You can be absolutely sure that all the biggies have their money out.
No one mentions these firms being bailed out are the ones who created this disaster, making billions for their economic sin. You can be sure the big boys have their money out of the now on-the-rocks international institutions.
No one mentions that bailing out the bankers will leave the average man victimized and paying for the pleasure of the economic rape.
Meanwhile derivative traders (salesmen of perdition, not traders) and their hedge fund managers are all in Greenwich, Connecticut with their hundreds of millions and billions, now retired playing tennis on their indoor courts at their waterfront mansions as the mess deepens.
Litigation against the officers and directors of these international banking firms, both against the biggies personally as well as the company, will make the biggies occupation one of defending against litigation for the rest of their lives.
For those biggies in these companies who trust no one and therefore have wives with no money will lose everything. Some of them I know. What goes around certainly comes around.
Litigation against OTC derivatives are slam-dunk victories for the injured plaintiffs. The biggies will pay.
This is the greatest act in the history of “The Public Be Damned” and “Let them Eat Cake.” It will not come about because in the USA it is already the hottest political potato.
The problem is that the plan of the US legislative [branch] is downright stupid. It is an embarrassment that legislators are so publicly moronic when it comes to economics.
The problem that no one is focusing on right now is the tracking of the mortgage itself to the structured product which has broken down. That means in these items many can’t connect the underlying mortgage to the structured investment product (derivative).
So far courts have held that the only entity that can foreclose is the entity that actually lent the money. The average guy does not know that with an attorney to protect him he has a free house!
The entity that actually lent the money has sold the mortgage and been paid. Therefore, where is the incentive for the original lender to foreclose? The answer is there is none. Bankers do not help bankers in the same way that sharks do not help sharks.
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Travis, I think you have it right.
I agree that full and comprehensive disclosure is essential—but only to top government finance officials. They need this a critical information, to know how bad things really are. Until they know, it is hard to plan.
Once they do know, however, they can take action with a “need to know” basis, to reassure critical players.
I disagree about point two, "too swift for efforts to stop them." I believe we are in a slow motion train wreck that is unstoppable at this point.
"There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as a result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved."~~Ludwig von Mises
perhaps of interest.
Iceland shows cracks as the krona crashes
Telegraph (UK) | 11:33pm GMT 23/03/2008 | By Louise Armitstead
Posted on 03/23/2008 5:31:13 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1990418/posts
Thanks for posting Sinclair, I missed it today.
He’s on my daily read list, along with Mish Shedlock and some others.
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/
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