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Radio Silence
The Wall Street Journal ^ | March 28, 2008 | Mollie Ziegler Hemingway

Posted on 03/27/2008 8:48:07 PM PDT by The Shrew

Usually radio hosts have to offend sacred moral sensibilities to be thrown off the air. Opie and Anthony were fired after they encouraged a couple to have sex in St. Patrick's Cathedral. Don Imus lost his job after using racist and sexist epithets against the Rutgers University women's basketball team.

But when the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod canceled its popular, nationally syndicated radio program "Issues, Etc.," listeners were baffled. Billed as "talk radio for the thinking Christian," the show was known for its lively discussions analyzing cultural influences on the American church. It seemed like precisely the thing that the Missouri Synod, a 2.4-million-member denomination whose system of belief is firmly grounded in Scripture and an intellectually rigorous theology, would enthusiastically support.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: issuesetc; kfuo; lcms; lutheran; radio
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To: AnalogReigns
So any church with "Anglican" in the title is different than the Episcopalian Church in America that is headed up by that arch-heretic woman?

Don't the Anglicans still allow women priests?

81 posted on 03/29/2008 8:20:53 PM PDT by Boagenes (I'm your huckleberry, that's just my game.)
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To: Terriergal
I think if by ‘deacons’ they don’t mean ‘elders’ then women are OK but... too often the words are used interchangeably.

Not in Presbyterian/Reformed polity. They are distinct offices. In my particular Presbyterian Denomination, a congregation is not required to have deacons, however i don't know of any who have excercised this option.

82 posted on 03/29/2008 8:23:59 PM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Your list of 50 or so liberal churches brought a funny memory back to me, as the list included “Friends United Meeting” (Quakers).

As a teenager I visited a Friends United Meeting for a couple of weeks. We sat in a circle and people took turns praying out loud. This was in the 1970s and 80% percent of the prayers were anti-war statements about Vietnam.

Only once out of 40 prayers was Jesus Christ mentioned. I’d peek around the room and everyone wore a serious face as one after another prayed that the U.S. would stop the killing. I left and soon after joined ROTC.


83 posted on 03/29/2008 9:43:48 PM PDT by RCFlyer
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To: AnalogReigns
You can count on any church in the USA with "Anglican" in its name will be "conservative Protestant...liturgical, confessional, and orthodox."

I think you are very mistaken about this. From what I read here on FR, it's quite the opposite and they're on the list of those belonging to the NCC.

84 posted on 03/30/2008 5:10:35 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Boagenes
Kieschnick and Co. are the beginning of the end for the LCMS. There will be the removal of the commitment to Biblical inerrancy, syncretism, women pastors, women deacons, women elders, and same-sex blessing or "union" ceremonies in the next five to ten years, mark my words. I'll bet they even join the National Council of Churches.

So far, there's no hint of that and if they ever go that way, I'm outta here. I'm so grateful for those who are watchful.

Considering the uproar that was created simply by firing these two radio personalities, it seems they're going to have trouble going any farther.

85 posted on 03/30/2008 5:14:25 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Boagenes

(”I’m joining the Catholic Church.”) Well, that’s what we did. Enough of all of this (and 20 years of it, in a huge variety of denominations). We just yearned for something solid that never changed, no theology by committee, etc. Aaahhhh.


86 posted on 03/30/2008 1:45:02 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Boagenes

The Pope is a great man, truly. You will find room for your orthodoxy and love for the Lord, indeed, in the Catholic Church.


87 posted on 03/30/2008 1:46:08 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: SoDak

Oh SoDak, surely you know the Lord well enough to be wary when you say, “I will never ....” He chortles when we say that, you know ....

We are ‘fundamentalist’ Prots come Home to the Catholic Church a few years ago. The/we new (Protestant) converts (from every and all denomination) are bringing their love of the Lord, heart-felt worship, knowledge of solid theology, love of tradition into the CC. It is a fresh wind that is purifying the excesses of Vat 2.

We are in Los Angeles, in a large church that is very orthodox, long confessional lines every Saturday with multiple priests officiating, Latin Mass every Sunday along with 5 or 6 other masses. There are many (Protestant and Muslim!) converts in our church.


88 posted on 03/30/2008 1:52:33 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: bboop
Just never mind that justification by faith thing.

(Thanks, but no thanks.)

89 posted on 03/30/2008 7:29:44 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("dispensationalism -- the eschatology of the Pharisees")
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To: Boagenes

Wow. I could have written your post myself. It exactly describes our church and my feelings as well. I have a hard time imagining any church other than LCMS but at the rate things are deteriorating, we may be forced elsewhere.

It hurts deeply. Our oldest granddaughter was confirmed last year but we have three others coming up. Among many great concerns, I fear our pastor will retire and there will not be another to properly teach confirmation class.

Thank you for your prayers. I will do the same for you. I wasn’t in the church during Seminex but I hear that it was similar. LCMS survived that but frankly I don’t know if this erosion will be stopped.

All we can do is pray, fight the good fight, and stay true to the Word. I trust the Holy Spirit to guide my future decisions but admittedly, I’m terribly anxious about it.


90 posted on 03/30/2008 10:02:09 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Pining_4_TX

***we left the PCA church in our area due to the increasingly liberal sermons***

Just goes to show you that you can’t trust the sign out front...


91 posted on 03/31/2008 5:36:38 AM PDT by Gamecock (Viva La Reformacion!)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Add Evangelical Covenant to the list of churches to avoid.


92 posted on 03/31/2008 10:52:25 AM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Boagenes

Good. Well the doctrinal beliefs are what is important. Behavior will flow naturally from those. Just be aware that a church can keep its orthodox doctrinal statement but not preach nor teach according to it. Make it a real crapshoot looking for a church these days!


93 posted on 03/31/2008 10:53:54 AM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Terriergal; All
Here's David Strand's response: An updated statement on ''Issues, Etc.''

Regards,

TS

94 posted on 03/31/2008 12:43:08 PM PDT by The Shrew (www.ToSetTheRecordStraight.com/www.swiftvets.com/www.wintersoldier.com-The Truth Shall Set YOU Free!)
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To: The Shrew

yup I have seen that one. “USUALLY we don’t elaborate on these things but look we’ll be gracious and toss you a bone.” So condescending and such unbelieveable gall these people have. Now, Kieschnick has responded in the WSJ saying Hemingway falsified information, and so, Hemingway has all the ammo she needs to do provide the sources and blow him out of the water. I pray she will do it.


95 posted on 03/31/2008 2:02:50 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Terriergal

Most certainly :>)


96 posted on 03/31/2008 3:06:30 PM PDT by irishtenor (Check out my blog at http://boompa53.blogspot.com/)
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To: Boagenes
Good afternoon.

Maybe you should join the Church of Boagenes. Isn't an individual's personal relationship with God more important that with any particular Church? I would think so, but what do I know.

Michael Frazier

97 posted on 03/31/2008 3:24:06 PM PDT by brazzaville (No surrender, no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: Terriergal
Now, Kieschnick has responded in the WSJ saying Hemingway falsified information,

Do you have a link? My search at WSJ.com turned up only, Radio Silence on Kieschnick.

Regards,

TS

98 posted on 03/31/2008 3:35:34 PM PDT by The Shrew (www.ToSetTheRecordStraight.com/www.swiftvets.com/www.wintersoldier.com-The Truth Shall Set YOU Free!)
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To: brazzaville

My own relationship with Christ isn’t the issue, it’s choosing a place for public worship with fellow Christians. I cannot worship or fellowship with those are part of a denomination I consider in error or outright apostasy. Paul warns us about that one.


99 posted on 03/31/2008 4:21:04 PM PDT by Boagenes
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To: The Shrew

http://tailrank.com/5579417/Pres-Kieschnick-responds-to-WSJ-Article

http://bringbackissues.blogspot.com/2008/03/pres-kieschnick-responds-to-wsj-article.html


100 posted on 04/02/2008 2:01:03 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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