Terri Schiavo's Family Calls for Observance of Terri's Day to Honor Disabled Woman

Opposition to ultrasounds is as clear evidence as there will ever be of the abortionists desire to hide the truth. It demonstrates in the simplest of ways that they are only interested in killing the baby and have no regard for the wishes of the mother — they believe that the moment a women expresses a willingness to murder her baby that her decision should be etched in stone and irrevocable.

My admiration for Jill Stanek grows with words like hers in WND.

Thread by wagglebee.

I'm not naïve. I know there are 12-year-olds in the world having sex. But it's not normal behavior. A 6th-grader seeking sex lives in a dysfunctional home. More likely she is being raped by an adult perpetrator. That's not what I say. That's what Planned Parenthood and Guttmacher Institute say:

The younger the mother, the greater the partner age gap. … Fathers are on average 9.8 years older than mothers 11 to 12 years of age.

I have never known or heard of a father, diligent or absentee, liberal or conservative, who pondered aloud that his 9-year-old daughter in three short years might have unprotected consensual sex, so we must make contraceptives and abortion available to her.

Such a father would be creepy, close to a pedophilia promoter.

Such a father would be Barack Obama, who indicated such at Sunday's Compassion Forum....

Jill Stanek: Obama and the sex life of 12 year olds

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Opposition to ultrasounds is as clear evidence as there will ever be of the abortionists desire to hide the truth.

Exactly. If they can maintain that it's just a blob of goo then it's fine to cut it out.

Fr. Tom Euteneur is on Neil Cavuto now. I was yelling across the pkg lot w/him at Terri’s Mass. He’s like Fr. Pavone. They’re both great priests.

Jim King a/k/a Humpty Dumpty is gonna fall off the wall eventually and he’ll want our prayers and sympathy. All I have for him is pity and disdain. HE’s the biggest (literally) RINO in Amerika and on another thread, he’s being a perv again.

Punish with a baby and burden somebody with disabled people. It’s a brave new world.

Jim King's a killjoy. MAY BE NEWS TO FREEPERS... If McCain picks him, it's even worse for the GOP

FYI, freepers. Tom Ridge is PRO-CHOICE. No wonder Tom Ridge didn't help Terri.

The appalling injustices rendered against Terri caused many of us to wonder in shock. What kind of reasoning would cause a people to weep and wail over the rather humane execution of a vicious killer, and at the same time smile in approval at the cruelest of agonizing killing of an innocent. This article comes from the Thaddeus Pope blog on Medical Futility, with thanks for LesforLife in pointing it out.

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Gary posted the following comment to a recent post:

States are ending the application of the death penalty on the reasoning that the state may put someone to death that was not actually guilty (most recently New Jersey). This though a jury would have weighed evidence that they determined was "clear and convinving" to bring a conviction. Some of us wonder why such care is taken not to err with some people and yet the possibility of error is bypassed with others?

I think this question raises interesting broad and deep issues. Why are similar issues with similar consequences treated so differently in different areas of the law? What is sufficiently voluntary for a guilty plea that results in prison time may be less demanding than what is sufficiently voluntary consent for a simple commercial contract. But we can put aside such questions for now (or at least until the law review article I wan to write in the summer of 2009).

While both lead to someone's involuntary death, there are some material distinctions between medical futility and capital punishment:

1. Active -- Passive: Capital punishment is active killing using a lethal agent. In contrast, medical futility is only passive, only entailing the refusal to use medical technology. Some think the active-passive distinction is not too firm. But it remains grounded in our jurisprudence.

2. Categorical -- Individual: Capital punishment is a criminal matter. The person is seized by the state and forced to undergo the execution. In contrast, health care providers involved in a medical futility dispute do not necessarily think the patient should die. They just do not want to be the ones to "torture" the patient by continuing aggressive treatment where the burdens of that treatment seriously outweigh any possible benefit. If the surrogate can transfer the patient to a provider who feels differently, then that's fine. The original providers just say I don't want to provide this treatment,"not through me." It's more akin to exile (Socrates, Napoleon...) than capital punishment.

3. Non-consensual -- Consensual: In capital punishment, the prisoner often does not want to die. In contrast, in medical futility disputes there is often good reason to think that the patient herself wanted to stop LSMT. The dispute arises because the patient's surrogates demand the LSMT. But we suspect that while the legally authorized decision makers, the surrogates are not acting as good "agents" in accordance with the preferences and interests of the patient.

4. Non-terminal -- Terminal: Executed prisoners may often be healthy and could live for many years, albeit in prison. The patients who are the subject of futility disputes are often terminally ill and have but days to live even with LSMT.

I am sure there are many more distinctions that we can draw. But it seems that the higher level of certainty demanded in capital punishment is warranted.

Posted by Thaddeus Mason Pope at 10:16 AM

Medical Futility vs. Capital Punishment

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Dockery and life...

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Re: “Dockery Calls Abortion Bill Intrusive” in the Wednesday, April 16 edition of Hernando Today.

Color me underwhelmed by Sen. Dockery's self-proclaimed “staunchly pro-life stand.” Voting to alert parents that their underage child is contemplating what can be a life-threatening operation and compelling abortion mills to meet basic sanitation standards does not make one a crusader for life.
During the Terri Schiavo tragedy, Sen. Dockery failed to come down on the side of life, refusing to recognize that Terri's killing was a precedent-setting step on the slippery slope to state approved euthanasia.
Now, even though she “personally would like to prevent someone from having an abortion,” she finds the means which could prevent such wanton killing “invasive.” Gee, Paula, ripping pre-born babies from their mothers' wombs is pretty invasive too — and lethal for the babies. As for Rep. Schultz's inane comment that he doesn't think the government should mandate a medical procedure, I guess he's never heard of random drug testing, pre-marriage blood tests or state required vaccinations for school children.
Statistics show that many women are affected by abortions they “chose” all of their lives. They often lament that they didn’t know what they were doing or that they weren't given all the facts.
What is wrong with giving women the most up-to-date medical information available to aid them in this life or death decision? Certainly Planned Parenthood doesn't want it; they will loose money they make as the largest abortion provider in the country. Even pro-abortion Democrats profess they want to make abortion rare. All who truly mean this should support this bill.

Mary Lou Wright
Brooksville

Dockery Not On Side Of Life

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Living will articles still trickle in. Once again, they say we have not enough talk, but I note they have not enough facts, about Terri.

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When Dr. Patricia Bomba’s mother was dying, the end wasn't as difficult for her or her family because her loved ones knew the medical care she received was on her terms.

Bomba’s mother had put her wishes in writing, so her loved ones and doctors could follow her instructions.

“It was the final gift that our mother gave to us and the final gift we gave to her,” she said.

Not enough people put their end-of-life care wishes in writing, Bomba and other health care officials said at a Wednesday press conference at the Elizabeth G. and Jennifer J. Hildebrandt Hospice Care Center in Greece.

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Designating a health care proxy and communicating wishes to loved ones ensures they are carried out, said Bomba, who is Excellus BlueCross BlueShield’s vice president and medical director for geriatrics. She pointed to Terri Schiavo, a Florida woman, who made international news. She was in a vegetative state for more than a decade as her parents and husband battled over whether she'd want to be kept alive.............

Not enough talk about end-of-life care

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A positive note in a thread by wagglebee...

DALLAS, April 17 /Christian Newswire/ -- On the first anniversary of Gonzales v. Carhart, Heartbeat International joins with The Justice Foundation, Operation Outcry, and compassionate supporters from around the world to march for a future where abortion is unthinkable. The Hope for Life march begins at the Heartbeat International Conference at the Sheraton Hotel (formerly Adams Mark) and proceeds to the Dallas Courthouse, where the Roe v. Wade case was initiated and paved the way to more than 40 million abortions.

"Often, women tell us they were encouraged to abort, persuaded that abortion is a good choice without being informed about life-saving options. These same women tell us they would have rejected abortion had they known the truth and been encouraged to choose life," said Hartshorn. "Women need to know that Heartbeat is here to provide healthy alternatives to abortion."......

Heartbeat Pregnancy Centers Deliver Hope for Life

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As fantasy melds with reality in the diseased minds of the left it should come as no surprise that even the august thinkers of the left are gullible fools to fall for a hoax. Thread by wagglebee on the brilliant Yalies.

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The Yale Daily News breathlessly informed us of a female student, art major Aliza Shvarts, who claimed that her senior art project was a documentation of nine months of self-induced miscarriages. Her goal, of course, was to "spark conversation" about "the relationship between art and the human body."

What is really the truth with this so-called "art" project, though, is that Shvarts has pulled the wool over the eyes of the Yale Daily News, the willing dupes who claim to be her professors, and anyone reading this story on Drudge and believing she really induced her own miscarriages. It's all a hoax.

Or, if not an outright hoax, it’s a misleading tale of a girl who hasn't a clue about how one becomes pregnant, what the fake drugs she took are really capable of doing, and the psychological pain of a real miscarriage.

It's also proof that our sources of news rarely if ever employ any common sense in how they write up the news. A tiny bit of logic put to this story of "self-induced miscarriages" would reveal it to be all stuff and nonsense.

But, no, what we get instead is the story reported as if it is fact and not the cynical efforts of a kid that just wants her 15 minutes of fame. It is also proof that the liberal side of the abortion debate leads the ideological mindset of the news................

Pro-Life Commentator Alleges Yale Student's "Abortion Art" Claim a Scam

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Terri doesn’t fit the “medical futility” guidelines listed here.

Not enough talk about end-of-life care

Translation: Not enough people opting out of life.

Translation: Not enough people opting out of life.

Exactly! People seem to forget that until very recently the Judeo-Christian tradition has ALWAYS been to do whatever is possible to keep people alive as long as possible. What do these death culters think "Thou shalt not kill" means?

I'm somewhat confused, and hope that you can help me out. Are you all against advance health care directives? If so, do you mind saying why? It seems like your concerns over Terri Schiavo would indicate a strong advocation for formalizing one's end-of-life wishes.
Thanks!

Best,
Etixos

PAULA DOCKERY VOTED TO KILL TERRI SCHIAVO (R). We have her photograph with the others.

The Pope made it very clear at the UN (not the greatest body imo) today that the first duty of government is protection of human beings. I was glad that he also said human beings are in the image of God. The government failed to protect Terri Schindler Schiavo which is why she’s a martyr and why we aren’t MOVING ON. The first duty of government IS TO PROTECT HUMAN BEINGS whether it’s Terri, people holed up in an Embassy, or people marooned after a hurricane and levee break in NOLA, whether they’re young, old, disabled or anyone else.

Illinois has an earthquake today. Isn’t that where Reverend Wright hails from and that marxist Barack Obama?

There’s a new document called a Loving Will and there’s also a Will to Live document. Living Wills were drafted by the death cultists so they’re the worst choice.