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Obama is our only hope for peace in Middle East (Obama man of peace, like Lincoln, says reader)
Columbia (MO) Daily Tribune ^ | April 5, 2008 | David Shipp

Posted on 04/05/2008 7:38:08 AM PDT by Timmy

Obama is our only hope for peace in Middle East

Published Saturday, April 5, 2008

Editor, the Tribune: Ever wonder why so many independent-minded conservatives are choosing Barack Obama over John McCain and Hillary Clinton? Peace.

Obama has opposed the war in Iraq since its start. Clinton supported the war at first but changed her mind for political reasons. McCain has been behind the war all along.

Listening to Obama’s speeches and debates, and researching his positions, reveals a man who will not only bring our troops home but will not start new wars.

McCain jokes about starting new wars when Americans are still dying in Iraq and Afghanistan, billions dollars are being spent on foreign wars at the expense of a "recessed" or "depressed" economy and an overextended military that needs to come home once and for all.

Clinton cannot be trusted. Her husband, Bill, almost started wars in Haiti and Korea until independent peace negotiators averted them. He ordered bombing of Iraq, Afghanistan and the Sudan to get his sex scandals off of the front page.

Obama comes to us as a man of a peace at a critical time in our country’s history - just as another Illinois senator with little national experience came to us 148 years ago. Yes, I am comparing Obama to Abraham Lincoln. He has been compared to a lot of people over the Internet and in campaign rhetoric, but it is Lincoln he most closely resembles. It is our patriotic duty to vote for Obama in November to end America’s involvement in Iraq and other senseless foreign situations.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: husseinobama; lincoln; middleeast; obama; obamamessiah; peace
Yep. Man of peace, just like Lincoln. Obviously, a product of the public schools. I don't have the time right now, but someone should respond with a letter (they print all letters) telling Mr. Shipp about the little fracas Lincoln oversaw, and how the seditious Copperheads of the day were very much like the anti-American Obama and his followers. "G-D America," after all.

The email for Letters to the Editor is editor@tribmail.com (250 word limit).

1 posted on 04/05/2008 7:38:09 AM PDT by Timmy
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To: Timmy

No projectile vomit alert?


2 posted on 04/05/2008 7:42:06 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Timmy

Well, he is correct in his assessment of the Clintons but woefully, foolishly and embarrassingly naive about Obama.


3 posted on 04/05/2008 7:42:11 AM PDT by Blennos (High Point, NC)
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To: Timmy
Unfortunately, it's starting to look like Obama’s version of “peace” in the Middle East includes the elimination of the State of Israel.
4 posted on 04/05/2008 7:42:45 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Timmy
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5 posted on 04/05/2008 7:46:00 AM PDT by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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To: Timmy

Yep! A man of peace, like all good Muslims are.


6 posted on 04/05/2008 7:47:01 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: Timmy
McCain jokes about starting new wars when Americans are still dying in Iraq and Afghanistan

I take it that Mr Shipp is referring to McCains "bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran" quip.

Here is a clue Shippweed... Iran started a war with us in 1979 and they are still at it now.

7 posted on 04/05/2008 7:48:56 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: newheart
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iRdIT2T39Q

Babies For Obama

8 posted on 04/05/2008 7:52:24 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Everytime McCain reaches out to conservatives, conservatives get poked in the eye.)
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To: Timmy

Obama is our only hope for peace in Middle East (Obama man of peace, like Lincoln, says reader)

a man of peace....a man from the religion of peace.....which is the truth????


9 posted on 04/05/2008 7:54:55 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: mylife

Yes we need the vomit alert. Lincoln was good but only because he won the war and was on the right side as to slavery. He could have stopped the war that cost millions of american lives. Man of peace, hardly.


10 posted on 04/05/2008 7:56:17 AM PDT by Mere
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To: TornadoAlley3
Aww jeez... Not this crap again!


11 posted on 04/05/2008 7:59:12 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Hilarious. “They’re just repeating syllables. Like children do.”

Methinks this mindless repetition of syllables is not limited to children.


12 posted on 04/05/2008 8:04:57 AM PDT by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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To: Timmy

Obama wants to expand troop presence in Afghanistan. Am I reading the article correctly that the author doesn’t understand these are two separate fronts?

I have to find the link that states unequivocally that Obama will go into Pakistan - a nuclear country - with or without their permission should they not cooperate on Bin Laden.


13 posted on 04/05/2008 8:06:21 AM PDT by JavaJumpy
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To: Timmy
Yep. Man of peace, just like Lincoln.

There was no war in Lincoln's time!

He was a man of peace, especially after he was assassinated.

Independent-minded conservatives know these things.

14 posted on 04/05/2008 8:07:28 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: Timmy

And my patriotic duty is to support America and all she stands for - including Michelle Obama’s many blessings - which would mean not supporting her husband.


15 posted on 04/05/2008 8:09:14 AM PDT by JavaJumpy
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To: Timmy

A true man of peace would have to be the strongest, toughest man in the region. A bowling score of 37 doesn’t contribute to a perception of the candidate as one of those.


16 posted on 04/05/2008 8:10:22 AM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: Timmy
****reveals a man who will not only bring our troops home****

really?

Obama’s Campain Coordinator on Iraq, Colin Kahl,“Stay on Success: A Policy of Conditional Engagement,”.“the U.S. should aim to transition to a sustainable over-watch posture (of perhaps 60,000–80,000 forces) by the end of 2010 (although the specific timelines should be the byproduct of negotiations and conditions on the ground).”

Obama may have claimed he was against the war from the start but was he always against leaving troops?

Answer: NO!!!

Obama July ‘04 to the CSM,
“the United States has an “absolute obligation” to remain in Iraq long enough to make it a success.”
“The failure of the Iraqi state would be a disaster,”.”It would dishonor the 900-plus men and women who have already died. . . . It would be a betrayal of the promise that we made to the Iraqi people, and it would be hugely destabilizing from a national security perspective.”

17 posted on 04/05/2008 8:12:09 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: Timmy

A degenerate.


18 posted on 04/05/2008 8:14:04 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Timmy
Words from a true believer. This needs an idiocy alert. BTW, I didn't notice conservatives breaking for BHO. Did I miss something?
19 posted on 04/05/2008 8:16:20 AM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: GodGunsGuts

I agree with your assessment that Obama is no friend of Israel.

But there is the oft made point that if the Jewish people did not exist in the Middle East, the Arabs would have to invent them, because they are incapable of living in peace.


20 posted on 04/05/2008 8:16:55 AM PDT by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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To: Timmy
Are you sure she didn't say Obi-Wan? I could of sworn she said Obi-Wan.

But then again R2D2's speakers kind of suck. No mid-range.

21 posted on 04/05/2008 8:17:24 AM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: All

Yeah, “peace” by appeasment to our enemies who want us dead. That’s what Obama will do.

He’ll be more like the next Neville Chamberlain than Lincoln.


22 posted on 04/05/2008 8:18:45 AM PDT by faithinchaos (eternal pessimist, recovering optimist)
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To: newheart
Methinks this mindless repetition of syllables is not limited to children.

On a more serious note, this letter makes you wonder how many under-age kids will attempt to vote in the general election. Obama's campaign did say the other day that they were going into the high schools to register voters.

23 posted on 04/05/2008 8:23:52 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: Timmy
"Blessed are the meek! For they shall inherit the a Shariah-based-Taliban-like, world"

Obamassiah

Barack ("Peace Be Upon His Middle No Name") Obama

24 posted on 04/05/2008 8:25:15 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: avg_freeper

Help us, Obama-Wan Baloney, you’re our only hope...


25 posted on 04/05/2008 8:27:21 AM PDT by Boss_Jim_Gettys (tagline withheld until further notice)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

“Barry O, Superstar,
“Do you think you’re what they say you are?”

26 posted on 04/05/2008 8:31:49 AM PDT by RichInOC (Obama)
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To: RichInOC

[completing tag line]


27 posted on 04/05/2008 8:33:12 AM PDT by RichInOC ("You ask me if I have a God complex? Let me tell you something: I AM God."--Barack Obama)
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To: mylife

That picture is just so darling! Give your baby a kiss for me! :)


28 posted on 04/05/2008 8:34:15 AM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: Timmy

That minor scuffle during Lincoln’s peaceful time in office only resulted in almost 600,000 military deaths. I don’t think we need another one of those — although Barak’s election might lead to one.


29 posted on 04/05/2008 8:36:17 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
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To: newheart

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xtNr5-up0U

Barack Obama - building a religion


30 posted on 04/05/2008 8:46:13 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Timmy

He shall cause the lion to lay down with the lamb.


31 posted on 04/05/2008 9:00:44 AM PDT by jimfree (Freep and Ye shall find.)
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To: Timmy

Obama ME peace = forsake Israel and let the Pali’s run wild...


32 posted on 04/05/2008 9:26:16 AM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: jimfree

God help America! Where else can we turn?


33 posted on 04/05/2008 9:27:35 AM PDT by tessalu
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Why is it that the Dems have to continually hijack a republican president’s legacy for their own use? Lincolin was not a man of peace and they would’ve screamed over his suspension of habeas corpus!


34 posted on 04/05/2008 9:31:25 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: chris_bdba

OPPPS Lincolin=Lincoln


35 posted on 04/05/2008 9:32:35 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Timmy
Listening to Obama’s speeches and debates, and researching his positions, reveals a man who will not only bring our troops home but will not start new wars.

Bringing the troops home before the mission is done will cause mayhem beyond our imaginations.

Does that idiot (and the minions who follow his garbage) think that bringing the troops home now will just automatically achieve peace? ow, I wonder? Is it OK if Iran and its findamental, militant Islamic rule just spreads that into Iraq? Will it be an accomplishment to let al Qaeda rebuild and run rampant?

Some people watch too much cable TV.

36 posted on 04/05/2008 9:34:01 AM PDT by Allegra (Tehran delenda est)
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To: Allegra
"findamental" = "fundamental"

My typing STILL sucks.

37 posted on 04/05/2008 9:35:02 AM PDT by Allegra (Tehran delenda est)
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To: Timmy

Yeah, the remark about Lincoln being a man of peace almost floored me. Also, if Obama is elected he’s going to be tested immediately in the worst way. Chances are we’re more likely to get into a war if he’s elected than McCain.


38 posted on 04/05/2008 9:36:01 AM PDT by saganite
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To: RightWhale

Now let’s be fair. He scored 37 in 5 or 6 frames. He was headed toward a 60, at least. This indicates true strength to me.


39 posted on 04/05/2008 9:41:17 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Timmy

OBAMA: Well, I think that this administration has not been very good at what’s been called the exercise of “soft power.” ...

KEYES: See, I think the great problem is that you cannot give a soft response to a hard threat. It would be kind of like trying to meet a bayonet with a spaghetti noodle. And it’s not going to help the people of this country to survive.

After 9-11, we were faced with a hard threat. We had lost thousands of people, and we had to move aggressively. The belief that Afghanistan was enough is a belief based on a failure to understand the global infrastructure of terror—so that you deal with the threat that has hit you instead of with the threats that will hit you later if you neglect to preemptively move against their bases of support.

It is precisely in order to create a situation in which maybe people who would be otherwise supportive of this bloodthirsty threat will respond a little better to your overtures that you move with decision against regimes like the Iraqi regime that had shown itself disposed to support terror, to fund terror, to be part gleefully of the global infrastructure of terror—and to act against them before they have the opportunity to act against you.

http://archives.alankeyes.com/transcript.php?id=367


40 posted on 04/05/2008 9:41:56 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (With "Republicans" like these, who needs Democrats?)
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To: Timmy
Not only a product of public schools, but one not interested in the slightest in the historical truth. Here's a succinct summary of Lincoln's suspension of civil liberties during that little fracas (Source: http://www.civil-liberties.com/pages/did_lincoln.htm).
As the Civil War started, in the very beginning of Lincoln's presidential term, a group of "Peace Democrats" proposed a peaceful resolution to the developing Civil War by offering a truce with the South, and forming a constitutional convention to amend the U.S. Constitution to protect States' rights. The proposal was ignored by the Unionists of the North and not taken seriously by the South. However, the Peace Democrats, also called copperheads by their enemies, publicly criticized Lincoln's belief that violating the U.S. Constitution was required to save it as a whole.

With Congress not in session until July, Lincoln assumed all powers not delegated in the Constitution, including the power to suspend habeas corpus. In 1861, Lincoln had already suspended civil law in territories where resistance to the North's military power would be dangerous. In 1862, when copperhead democrats began criticizing Lincoln's violation of the Constitution, Lincoln suspended habeas corpus throughout the nation and had many copperhead democrats arrested under military authority because he felt that the State Courts in the north west would not convict war protesters such as the copperheads. He proclaimed that all persons who discouraged enlistments or engaged in disloyal practices would come under Martial Law.

Among the 13,000 people arrested under martial law was a Maryland Secessionist, John Merryman. Immediately, Hon. Roger B. Taney, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States issued a writ of habeas corpus commanding the military to bring Merryman before him. The military refused to follow the writ. Justice Taney, in Ex-parte Merryman, then ruled the suspension of habeas corpus unconstitutional because the writ could not be suspended without an Act of Congress. President Lincoln and the military ignored Justice Taney's ruling.

Finally, in 1866, after the war, the Supreme Court officially restored habeas corpus in Ex-parte Milligan, ruling that military trials in areas where the civil courts were capable of functioning were illegal.


41 posted on 04/05/2008 9:49:46 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Timmy
Obama couldn't wash Abe's dirty socks. I can't believe a person could make such a ridiculous comparison between an untested racist and Abe Lincoln. He better put down the crack pipe before he insults Jesus by comparing him to Barry O Racist.
42 posted on 04/05/2008 10:55:30 AM PDT by peeps36 (Politician = Corrupt Degenerate Loser = Ted, Nancy, Barry, Jack and Many More)
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To: Allegra
Obama and the left's definition of "peace" means that US troops will not be sent anywhere to enforce anything or liberate anyone. We will keep them at home.

That sounds great, but it doesn't fly in a turbulent world. It sounds really great to the Muslim leaders who know that if Obama is elected, no US troops will be sent to interfere as the caliphate is plundered. No more senseless and illegal wars, Mr Imam. You just go ahead there and we will stay right here.

Obama is the one they have been waiting for. Now they can.

43 posted on 04/05/2008 11:17:31 AM PDT by Sender (Stop Islamisation. Defend our freedom.)
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To: Timmy

WHERE and WHEN does the moron who wrote this article propose to defend ourselves against our publicly sworn enemy?

AFTER they take HIS head?

Fools who think that surrender to tyrants is the path to peace, deserve neither peace nor a voice in the matter.


44 posted on 04/05/2008 11:26:55 AM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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