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Oakland Police Worried About Increased Vigilantism
KCBS All News 740 AM ^ | April 21, 2008 | Bob Melrose

Posted on 04/22/2008 12:53:38 PM PDT by Califreak

OAKLAND, Calif. (KCBS) -- Oakland police are worried that more and more people will take the law into their own hands, after two store owners shot two robbers in recent days. People have a right to protect themselves, but things can get out of hand quickly if everyone starts packing a weapon, said Deputy Police Chief Dave Kozicki.

"That's a concern that law enforcement has all the time, that people will engage in vigilantism," said Kozicki.

A 22-year-old Oakland man was shot at least three times and critically wounded when he tried to hold up a liquor store Saturday night. And an 18-year-old Pittsburg teenager was shot and wounded when he tried to rob a store last Thursday night.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; gungrabbers; knowyourrights; oakland; policestate; quagmire; reddellums; runaway; secondamendment; selfdefense
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If you choose to defend yourself you're a vigilante, according to the Deputy Police Chief.

Unbelievable.

1 posted on 04/22/2008 12:53:39 PM PDT by Califreak
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To: Califreak

What a flaming a**hole. He should be thanking the owners for ridding the world of a scumbag.


2 posted on 04/22/2008 12:56:30 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Califreak
this is from Kalifornia... L.A. City Council rejects 'ban' on homicides http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-ban2apr02,1,4262080.story
3 posted on 04/22/2008 12:56:46 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (Conservatives are to McCain what Charlie Brown is to Lucy.)
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To: Califreak

agreed..I thought you were a vigilante if you meted out justice AFTER the crime was committed..so how can self-defense be an act of vigilantes??


4 posted on 04/22/2008 12:56:56 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (www.liberallunacy.bravehost.com..I'm a Patriot Guard Rider. www.patriotguard.org for info.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

sorry...reformat:

***L.A. City Council rejects ‘ban’ on homicides***

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-ban2apr02,1,4262080.story


5 posted on 04/22/2008 12:57:38 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (Conservatives are to McCain what Charlie Brown is to Lucy.)
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To: Califreak

I truly wonder what the LEO’s expect. Crime steadily rises and the more for violent crimes. Home invasions, armed robbery, aggravated assaults, gang violence, etc. all show that society is on the brink of collapse in certain sectors.

What amazes me is that there are not more instances of armed persons ‘cleaning’ their neighborhoods.


6 posted on 04/22/2008 12:58:17 PM PDT by rjsimmon
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To: pissant

I could see that statement if people were actively hunting criminals in a Charles Bronson “Death Wish” kind of way, but this is ridiculous!


7 posted on 04/22/2008 12:58:30 PM PDT by Califreak (Hangin' with Hunter-under the bus "Dread and Circuses")
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To: SmithL; NormsRevenge

Oaktown Ping


8 posted on 04/22/2008 12:58:48 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Califreak

“Oakland police are worried that more and more people will take the law into their own hands, after two store owners shot two robbers in recent days. People have a right to protect themselves, but things can get out of hand quickly if everyone starts packing a weapon, said Deputy Police Chief Dave Kozicki.”

Out of hand? If robbers know that store owners are packing, what’s the chance they’ll try and rob it?


9 posted on 04/22/2008 12:58:51 PM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Califreak

Memo to self: when in Oakland simply shoot, shovel, and be silent.


10 posted on 04/22/2008 12:58:55 PM PDT by PeterFinn (Charlton Heston & Ronald Reagan - my two favorite Presidents.)
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To: Califreak

That guy is a moron.


11 posted on 04/22/2008 12:58:58 PM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: Califreak

A vigilante is someone who is not a law-enforcement officer who takes it upon themselves to enforce the law. If these guys were walking up and down the street looking for law breakers and then shot someone they found sticking up a store, they’d be vigilantes. Shooting someone in self-defense when they came to you and tried to rob you is not vigilantism.


12 posted on 04/22/2008 12:59:15 PM PDT by RonF
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To: Califreak

A vigilante is someone who is not a law-enforcement officer who takes it upon themselves to enforce the law. If these guys were walking up and down the street looking for law breakers and then shot someone they found sticking up a store, they’d be vigilantes. Shooting someone in self-defense when they came to you and tried to rob you is not vigilantism.


13 posted on 04/22/2008 12:59:16 PM PDT by RonF
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To: Califreak

“An armed society is a polite society”

Author, Robert A. Heinlein


14 posted on 04/22/2008 12:59:22 PM PDT by roaddog727 (BS does not get bridges built - the funk you see is the funk you do)
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To: Califreak

vig·i·lan·te
–noun 1. a member of a vigilance committee.
2. any person who takes the law into his or her own hands, as by avenging a crime.
–adjective 3. done violently and summarily, without recourse to lawful procedures: vigilante justice.

In what way does protecting your life and property have anything to do with the definition of vigilantism?


15 posted on 04/22/2008 12:59:56 PM PDT by saganite
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To: Califreak

Oakland needs a new Deputy Chief.


16 posted on 04/22/2008 1:00:05 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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"things can get out of hand quickly if everyone starts packing a weapon, said Deputy Police Chief Dave Kozicki."

Got news for you, Deputy Police Chief. Things are already "out of hand", and have been for some time.

Typical left-coast big-city cop BS-speak. He'll do anything except acknowledge the problem.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

17 posted on 04/22/2008 1:00:17 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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18 posted on 04/22/2008 1:00:28 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Slapshot68

Easy for Kozicki to say - he gets to ride around Oakland in a limo and both he AND the driver are packin’ heat.

Maybe he should look at his own crime stats, his department’s dismal performance, and then STFU.


19 posted on 04/22/2008 1:00:41 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
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To: Califreak
Deputy Police Chief Dave Kozicki, from what he said he wants the felons to go ahead and rob and kill you and for you to do nothing to protect yourself so they can arrive on the scene and get their photos on TV.
20 posted on 04/22/2008 1:00:41 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the Royal 100 Club)
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