Posted on 04/22/2008 12:53:38 PM PDT by Califreak
OAKLAND, Calif. (KCBS) -- Oakland police are worried that more and more people will take the law into their own hands, after two store owners shot two robbers in recent days. People have a right to protect themselves, but things can get out of hand quickly if everyone starts packing a weapon, said Deputy Police Chief Dave Kozicki.
"That's a concern that law enforcement has all the time, that people will engage in vigilantism," said Kozicki.
A 22-year-old Oakland man was shot at least three times and critically wounded when he tried to hold up a liquor store Saturday night. And an 18-year-old Pittsburg teenager was shot and wounded when he tried to rob a store last Thursday night.
Unbelievable.
What a flaming a**hole. He should be thanking the owners for ridding the world of a scumbag.
agreed..I thought you were a vigilante if you meted out justice AFTER the crime was committed..so how can self-defense be an act of vigilantes??
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***L.A. City Council rejects ‘ban’ on homicides***
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I truly wonder what the LEO’s expect. Crime steadily rises and the more for violent crimes. Home invasions, armed robbery, aggravated assaults, gang violence, etc. all show that society is on the brink of collapse in certain sectors.
What amazes me is that there are not more instances of armed persons ‘cleaning’ their neighborhoods.
I could see that statement if people were actively hunting criminals in a Charles Bronson “Death Wish” kind of way, but this is ridiculous!
Oaktown Ping
“Oakland police are worried that more and more people will take the law into their own hands, after two store owners shot two robbers in recent days. People have a right to protect themselves, but things can get out of hand quickly if everyone starts packing a weapon, said Deputy Police Chief Dave Kozicki.”
Out of hand? If robbers know that store owners are packing, what’s the chance they’ll try and rob it?
Memo to self: when in Oakland simply shoot, shovel, and be silent.
That guy is a moron.
A vigilante is someone who is not a law-enforcement officer who takes it upon themselves to enforce the law. If these guys were walking up and down the street looking for law breakers and then shot someone they found sticking up a store, they’d be vigilantes. Shooting someone in self-defense when they came to you and tried to rob you is not vigilantism.
A vigilante is someone who is not a law-enforcement officer who takes it upon themselves to enforce the law. If these guys were walking up and down the street looking for law breakers and then shot someone they found sticking up a store, they’d be vigilantes. Shooting someone in self-defense when they came to you and tried to rob you is not vigilantism.
“An armed society is a polite society”
Author, Robert A. Heinlein
vig·i·lan·te
noun 1. a member of a vigilance committee.
2. any person who takes the law into his or her own hands, as by avenging a crime.
adjective 3. done violently and summarily, without recourse to lawful procedures: vigilante justice.
In what way does protecting your life and property have anything to do with the definition of vigilantism?
Oakland needs a new Deputy Chief.
Got news for you, Deputy Police Chief. Things are already "out of hand", and have been for some time.
Typical left-coast big-city cop BS-speak. He'll do anything except acknowledge the problem.
Easy for Kozicki to say - he gets to ride around Oakland in a limo and both he AND the driver are packin’ heat.
Maybe he should look at his own crime stats, his department’s dismal performance, and then STFU.
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