Posted on 04/23/2008 1:30:49 PM PDT by Between the Lines
Colorado Springs, CO and Eldorado, TX - This is not the first time Rozita Swinton has made up a good story and called authorities. But it’s definitely the first time one of Swinton’s calls produced a mass raid on over 400 people. Swinton, 33, is now facing charges related to the April 3 raid on the Yearning For Zion Ranch in Eldorado, Texas, owned and occupied by members of Warren Jeffs’ Fundamentalist Church of Latter-Day Saints. Rozita Swinton may have set the whole raid off by calling a San Angelo crisis center on March 29, saying she was a young girl named Sarah who was being abused.
Rozita Swinton is a soft-spoken young woman with what police call “a baby voice”. She’s her neighborhood delegate to the Obama campaign. She is single, without children, pays her bills and works for an insurance company. By all accounts, she is a giving person, allowing her roommate to move in after the Eldorado raid had begun. But Swinton has called in false reports before, tying up police and social resources for weeks at a time.
In June 2005, Swinton was arrested in Castle Rock, Colorado after she called an adoption agency posing a teenaged pregnant girl. Swinton told the agency and police that she was young, pregnant, alone and thinking of killing herself after leaving the baby at a fire station. There was no baby. There was no teenager. There was only Rozita Swinton, who had no explanation for what she’d done. Police charged her with filing a false police report, and she is on probation for that case.
In February of this year, a swarm of Colorado Springs police officers went out looking for a thirteen-year-old who said she was locked in a basement. Nope - it was Rozita Swinton again. That case is still pending.
Flora Jessop, a former FLDS member who escaped and now runs a crisis center, says that Swinton repeatedly called her posing as a young abused girl. Jessop said she first got a call March 30 (the day after the San Angelo hotline call) from Swinton, who said she was an abuse victim named Sarah. Swinton had done her research, but missed a few key points over the 30-50 hours of phone conversations Jessop taped. And the man Sarah claimed was her husband is a well-known polygamist FLDS member who doesn’t live at the Eldorado compound at all. That was one of several clues that led authorities to Swinton’s door.
Is Rozita Swinton a wingnut, or a misguided angel of mercy trying to save the abused children of the FLDS? Investigators are still looking for Sarah, on the off-chance that she does exist. But Texas Rangers have already been to Colorado, where they found books and “items of interest” in Swinton’s apartment. The hotline call has been traced and appears to come from Swinton. On the other hand, there is evidence of prolonged and ritualized sexual abuse on the Yearning For Zion compound, even down to a marital bed in the temple itself and many minor children who are pregnant or have had babies by much older relatives. Rozita Swinton may be a nutball. She may also have saved over 400 lives.
Heroine or criminal or both, Swinton remains under investigation by multiple agencies today. She is charged with false reporting in Colorado and may be facing probation violation charges and other charges as well. I don’t know what I think about this one - what do you think?
Why will you not address my point? Do you understand that it is possible that Democrat dirty tricksters might look for unfolding events and attempt to manipulate them at a convenient time with just an anonymous tip to give them political advantage? That is the only important point.
It has nothing to do with Romney, Texas, Utah, British Columbia, President Bush, the FBI, the State Attorneys General or any other insignificant fact or happenstance.
I'm talking about Democrat Fraud just as vile as their punching hanging chads in Florida.
Oh, you mean the phone call? I’m a little distracted tonight, I really am not trying to drive you crazy.
If it is the phone call, I still don’t see it, Texas was poised for this and even had an informant inside.
The real bottom line is that I don’t care, we have been trying to bust these people for 75 years, and when they moved out of their Mormon sanctuary into Texas, that was too much.
I want these pervs hurt badly, even broken up if we can pull it off and I want them out of Texas.
Well, in that sense, I see how you feel. I am torn by the fact that authorities will act on a tip and in turn destroy the secure home life of a child to put them in much greater lasting harm than anything they may have experienced in the so called abusive situation. I once worked as a counselor in a youth home that accepted wards of the state. Nothing could alleviate the anguish those boys experienced in that hostile situation. I will never forget Tommy and Jimmy, brothers that were place there by a judge because of their parent's custody battle. Catch the pervert and put him in prison! Don't incarcerate the child or mother.
Many of those children in the compound don't know who their parents are, or where their parents live. In this cult the humans are components and can be reassigned to different units, even the children can be reassigned as some were to this compound. The female children are being bred and raised to be used in marriages, the males are sometimes kept to serve as husbands and leaders but are also thinned out mercilessly when they come of age to compete with the older men for the carefully cultivated girls. There is no security, these people are not a family unit. The cult is evil, not different, this is a rescue.
Adultry is not a crime in Texas.
Almost half of the states in the United States recognize adultery as a crime. Most such states recognize adultery simply as a misdemeanor offense, but five states (Idaho, Massachusetts, Michigan, Oklahoma and Wisconsin) still treat adultery as a possible felony crime potentially punishable by more than one year imprisonment. Prosecutions are rare, but still do happen. The map below shows states that recognize adultery as a felony in red and states that recognize adultery as a misdemeanor in pink.
For those of you who haven't seen the 1973 Mormon statement on abortion or the statement on abortion in the LDS bishops handbook, allow me to "translate" CYTD's Mormon PR cover:
* IF you have a COMPETENT physician...
The fact of the matter is that most abortions these days -- about 90%--are done in free-standing abortion clinics & only about 10% combined in hospitals or private physicians' offices. What does that mean then when CYTD talks about "physician?" Well, it means that LDS leaders perhaps had good intentions when they wrote that 1973 statement; but it's become badly outdated. Now, most recommendations for abortions come from abortionists--not "competent medical physicians" as the LDS statement says. Besides, if an LDS family wants an abortion, all they need to do is to ensure they see a full-time or part-time abortionist, who will in turn make the recommendation.
* and IF that competent physician determines that the baby WILL NOT SURVIVE BIRTH
Oh, yeah..."competent physicians" are now "prophets?" (give me a break) Just about the only guarantee of a dead baby prior to an early C-section removal are conditions like ectopic pregnancies...and in those situations, not only do you have a guaranteed dead baby but the baby will wind up killing mom. In those cases, where the baby 100% will die anyway, then that's about the only type of case where you have abortion as genuine self-defense.
The WHOLE truth...The clear implication by wideawake was that the LDS abort babies willy nilly if the parents find out the child will be born deformed—meaning what? Down’s syndrome? Cleft palate? Mentally retarded? Severely autistic? Missing limbs? Conjoined twins? If you don’t like what your baby’s going to come out looking like, go ahead and kill him. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Yeah, CYTD, the LDS statement clearly says "health of the mother" not "life" of the mother. (So much for your "whole truth...nothing could be further from the truth") No true self-respecting pro-life legislator would ever settle for "health of the mother" protective language for pre-born...only "life of the mother" means anything because the abortion industry treats "health" as all those examples you mention. So, again, it comes down to the wishes of the pregnant parents as advised by their abortionist or doc.
...an abortion may be considered...
Was there a reason you left out the other exceptions the LDS statement gives? Rape, incest. Or how about this "doosey"...If the LDS woman prays about it, or the LDS father prays about it, and God says, "OK. Have at it. Dismember Johnny or Janey Smith."
I think that aspect of the LDS statement on abortion has to be among the most slanderous statements about God...that God would somehow become complicit and a conspirator in the plan to dismember a pre-born baby by giving the nod to his or her extermination--all in the name of a "personal revelation" answer to prayer!
I have heard & read of stories where the men were tossed out & wanted their families. But the women & children WERE GIVEN TO OTHER MEN! The men become shunned & are cast out, much like the Lost Boys are. The women trust that if the Prophet tells them to go to another man they must or risk damnation. Families are also tossed out of their homes on the Prophet's whims. Its a strange bunch.
After all this Angie Voss woman said she even felt afraid in the relatively peaceful (virtually weaponless) FLDS ranch.
Whatever the reason, since David Allred, Jeffs' business agent and son-in-law, purchased the ranch for $700,000, sect work crews from Arizona and Utah have built the estimated 90,000- square-foot temple, a limestone quarry, a cement plant and a guard tower that's manned 24 hours a day.
http://www.rickross.com/reference/polygamy/polygamy360.html
So why the guard tower thats manned 24 hours a day? To keep people inside or let them know when someone is coming on YFZ land?
Yes I do have a problem with babies being held under water & little girls raped by fathers & given as child brides as soon as they are old enough for childbirth. I also am damn sick & tired of ANY GROUP that BLEEDS THE BEAST! The BEAST being our govt & our tax money. Be it FLDS, welfare mothers or Muslims etc..Its needs to end! I am going to home school next year because I am sick of the gay agenda being taught in schools along with some other issues I have. I do not fear the govt coming in & taking my child.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
As I posted, in medical cases, an abortion MAY be considered:
* IF you have a COMPETENT physician,
* and IF that competent physician determines that the baby WILL NOT SURVIVE BIRTH
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Don't get too upset , this is just a normal anti-Mormons way of taking something we say and adding their words to and making it something it isn't.
It is usually something that makes them look better by making us look bad by adding to the truth.
HMmm...
I've heard that folks do this.
NOT Lincoln...
“LDS doctrine permits the abortion of deformed children.”
What is the diference you are so upset about?
I did not read this from your link.
I'll bet you'd be wrong.
Even paranoids might have a real enemy!
But... but...
. . . I saw exactly what would come to pass if there was not something done. I have had this spirit upon me for a long time. But I want to say this: I should have let all the temples go out of our hands; I should have gone to prison myself, and let every other man go there, had not the God of heaven commanded me to do what I did do; and when the hour came that I was commanded to do that, it was all clear to me. I went before the Lord, and I wrote what the Lord told me to write. . . .
Why do YOU hate us: you BIGOT!
--MormonDude(I love Jesus!)
I wasn't 'clear' to me.
Are you able to read his mind?
Nothing could be further from the truth.
What is the TRUTH is a Mormon DOES have an abortion?
What is the church's official policy?
Is there any repercussions towards her?
Is she excommunicated?
Chastised?
Given more training?
Heck!
A couple of mine, they can HAVE!
To counter the...
... normal Mormon way of leaving something out and making it appear like something it isn't.
What percentage of someone's life and liberties must be stolen before it becomes "a matter of life and death"?
What percentage of your life and liberties are you willing to forfeit before you would consider yourself wronged?
What percentage of your life and liberties are you willing to surrender to a government that presumes to know better than you how to raise your children?
This sets a dangerous precedent - removing 400+ children from their families on the basis of one phone call. But, it's for the children, so I guess that makes it all OK, right?
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