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Mothers from polygamous sect separated from young children
AP ^ | Apr 25 | MICHELLE ROBERTS

Posted on 04/25/2008 3:24:19 AM PDT by Aristotelian

ELDORADO, Texas - Mothers from a polygamous sect described an emotional, rushed scene when they were forced from the shelter where they had been staying with their young children since the state removed them from their homes.

"My two oldest were just terrified and they clung to me saying, `Mother, mother, we want to go with you,'" said Ruth, her voice breaking as she began to cry. She and other members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints who spoke outside the sect's ranch Thursday declined to give their last names, fearing it will affect their custody cases.

Dozens of mothers were bused away from their children at the San Angelo Coliseum on Thursday after their legal efforts to stay united were rejected. Texas officials were preparing to move the last of the more than 400 children taken from the sect's ranch to group homes, shelters and residences, some hundreds of miles away, over the next few days.

One woman held a handwritten sign out the bus window that read: "SOS. Mothers separated. Help."

"There are no words to describe how it was," said Velvet, a mother who was forced to leave her 13-month old. "We've been staying up nights to watch over the children because we didn't know what would happen."

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This gets more and more heartbreaking
1 posted on 04/25/2008 3:24:19 AM PDT by Aristotelian
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To: Aristotelian
declined to give their last names, fearing it will affect their custody cases.

What are they hiding?

2 posted on 04/25/2008 3:33:30 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Aristotelian

FLDS propaganda machine in action.


3 posted on 04/25/2008 3:36:12 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Aristotelian
I understand these “mothers” of children under five are going to be housed close by, so that there is not total separation.

For once I believe that the courts are doing the right thing.

4 posted on 04/25/2008 3:58:45 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: Aristotelian
ELDORADO, Texas - Mothers from a polygamous sect described an emotional, rushed scene when they were forced from the shelter where they had been staying with their young children since the state removed them from their homes.

The situation is in certain ways worse than Waco. It seems that Christians have no Constitutional rights in this country. Our government would rather spend its resources punishing and ridiculing innocent women and children while our borders are left open, and our jails are full of illegal immigrants. It is beyond heartbreaking; it is a portent of the future for all who do not subscribe to leftists version of a perfect world.

5 posted on 04/25/2008 4:07:32 AM PDT by olezip
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There’s nothing Christian (In the sense of being “followers of Christ”) about LDS or FLDS. JMO.


6 posted on 04/25/2008 4:18:13 AM PDT by Clara Lou (~sigh~ '08)
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“There’s nothing Christian (In the sense of being “followers of Christ”) about LDS or FLDS. JMO.”

Says you. Big deal.


7 posted on 04/25/2008 4:26:39 AM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: olezip
It seems that Christians have no Constitutional rights in this country.

No, just child-raping polygamist freaks.

8 posted on 04/25/2008 4:28:41 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Bushwacker777; Clara Lou
Says you. Big deal.

check yer theology bub - they have some huge differences between both accepted branches of Christianity

Id post details but the victim machine would start accusing me of hijacking the thread

9 posted on 04/25/2008 4:50:29 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: humblegunner

But the mothers didn’t rape their children.


10 posted on 04/25/2008 4:54:08 AM PDT by DeLaine
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But the mothers didn’t rape their children.

No, they just helped to brainwash them into believing it was right.

11 posted on 04/25/2008 5:00:31 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: DeLaine

A mother that doesn’t protect her child is guilty.


12 posted on 04/25/2008 5:05:10 AM PDT by greatvikingone
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Ahem...I know this has been missed for some good reason, but, what about due process, innocent until proven guilty, etc. First, this was done on a bogus “tip”. Second, even if we accept that there were instances of abuse, rounding up every child in town, then separating young ones from their mothers, again without due process, is abuse in and of itself.

I’m pretty sure in my little town, someone somewhere is being abused. Guess I should keep an eye out for the government to come and “help” by removing my kids and all others in town too.

Something is fundamentally wrong here. BTW, I also agree that LDS is false religion. Doesn’t mean believers should be subject to blanket suspension of basic rights.


13 posted on 04/25/2008 5:51:01 AM PDT by prov1813man (While the one you despise and ridicule works to protect you, those you embrace work to destroy you)
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To: Revelation 911

Would the first and second century Christians accept your branch. Before the year 365 (give or take a decade or two) their was no Trinity.


14 posted on 04/25/2008 5:53:16 AM PDT by jy1297
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To: olezip

Some Freepers here seem to want to believe that the state is supporting traditional religion. Nothing could possibly be furthur from the truth. This is a blatantly anti religious act by a zealous bureaucracy to destroy an avowedly religious commune practicing unpopular and potentially illegal activities.
There is no claim that prepubescent children are being forced into marriage. So why are they removed years ahead of any potential abuse? The real abuse is by the state and a vocal anti Mormon populas.
This is a profoundly malicious persecution full of self rightuous indignation.


15 posted on 04/25/2008 6:03:38 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: Aristotelian

Yesterday some were dismissing those who worried about this by noting there is a hearing scheduled about this separation.

Of course, the hearing is next week.

The state law appears to say that you can’t place children in foster care without first giving the family a hearing, and it’s supposed to happen in 14 days.

But they did a group hearing, and called it the “hearing”.

So now they HAVE separated mothers from their infants, something that a couple of days ago most people said wasn’t a real risk.


16 posted on 04/25/2008 6:15:12 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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So polygamists are child rapers? Cite any proof you think you have or retract.


17 posted on 04/25/2008 6:22:13 AM PDT by ArizonaJosie
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So polygamists are child rapers? Cite any proof you think you have or retract.

Kind of bossy for a n00b, aren't you? You live in AZ? Maybe you can provide some inside info to dispute the obvious statuatory rape going on in Colorado City.

A 16-year-old mother is evidence of rape.

18 posted on 04/25/2008 6:33:43 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?))
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“Cite any proof you think you have”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2006552/posts

Child raping polygamist freaks.


19 posted on 04/25/2008 6:34:05 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: jy1297; humblegunner; Zakeet
Would the first and second century Christians accept your branch. Before the year 365 (give or take a decade or two) their was no Trinity.

Sigh....another n00b....

Zakeet furnishes this comment:

MORMONS ADMIT MORMONISM IS NOT CHRISTIANITY

The early leaders of the Mormon church had no problem saying that Mormonism is not Christianity. Consider the following:

Nothing less than a complete apostasy from the Christian religion would warrant the establishment of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. -- Joseph Smith, Jr., History of the Church, v. 1, p. xl

With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world. -- Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 8, p. 199

What does the Christian world know about God? Nothing... Why so far as the things of God are concerned, they are the veriest fools; they know neither God nor the things of God. -- John Taylor, Journal of Discourses, v. 13, p. 225

But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of Christian Churches ... But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance. -- Apostle Orson Pratt, Journal of Discourses, v. 18, p. 172

This is not just another Church. This is not just one of a family of Christian churches. This is the Church and kingdom of God, the only true Church upon the face of the earth. -- Ezra Taft Benson, Teachings of Ezra Taft Benson, p. 164-165

We accept that as a statement which came to him [Joseph Smith's vision in which he was told all other religions were "abominations"], which is printed, of course, and published in his history as a statement. But we go forward with a friendly relationship, with a respect for people everywhere and with an effort to accept them as we meet them and, where opportunity exists, to talk with them and explain to them what we believe … We don't criticize them for what they believe. We accept the good that comes of that understanding which they have, but we feel we having something to offer beyond what they have. Gordon B. Hinckley, interview with Richard Ostling, as quoted in Mormon America, by Richard and Joan Ostling, p. 323


20 posted on 04/25/2008 6:49:15 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?))
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