Skip to comments.Cartoons of a Racist Past Lurk on YouTube
Posted on 04/28/2008 12:50:53 PM PDT by freerepublic_or_die
Among the millions of clips on the video-sharing Web site YouTube are 11 racially offensive Warner Brothers cartoons that have not been shown in an authorized release since 1968.
Some of the cartoons were removed on April 16. A message saying the cartoons were no longer available because of a copyright claim by Warner appeared in their place. By evening the messages disappeared, and some of the cartoons were back. Representatives for YouTube and Warner would not confirm whether the companies had tried to remove the cartoons.
Ricardo Reyes, a YouTube spokesman, said YouTube relies on copyright holders to identify infringing content and on users to flag offensive content. If people do not complain, videos remain, he said. Mr. Reyes said that copyright violations are removed very quickly once identified, but the problem is that ownership is often tough to determine. He said many users unknowingly post because they dont know the law.
A representative for Warner wrote in an e-mail message that Warner Brothers has rights to the titles in question and that we vigorously protect all our copyrights. We do not make distinctions based on content. The cartoons, known as the Censored 11, have been unavailable to the public for 40 years. Postings no longer appear if YouTube is searched for Coal Black and de Sebben Dwarfs, a parody of Snow White and the most famous of the cartoons. But a search for Coal Black does find the cartoon.
These cartoons were controversial when first released; the N.A.A.C.P. unsuccessfully protested Coal Black before it was shown in 1943. Richard McIntire, the director of communications for the N.A.A.C.P., wrote in an e-mail message that the cartoons are despicable. We encourage the films owners to maintain them as they are that is, locked away in their vaults.
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We must fight the forces of evil by outing all sorts of un-PC-like behavior as manifested by such vile entities as the Republicans,the US Government, the Bush Administration, and now the internet itself.
This reminds me. I have to find a collection of Warner Bros. originals on Ebay before the PC Police get to them also.
Can’t find a copy of Disney’s Song of the South anywhere either.
So, we should worry about the forces of evil preventing you from watching racist cartoons? I’m thinking I may have better things to do today.
Still one of my favorite Warner Brothers cartoon moments...
“...I forget to tell you. Slowpoke Rodriguez...he pack a gun.”
“Now he tells me!”
I have a bootleg of these cartoons. “Coal Black and De Sebben Dwarves” is a brilliant piece of work. Warner animators went into jazz clubs and studied the jive dancers, reproducing them beautifully. A shame that most people will ever see their work.
Coal Black is an interesting cartoon, simply for the people who did the voices. Coal Black is Vivien Dandridge, sister of Dorothy Dandridge. Mammy is Ruby Dandridge, Dorothy’s mother.
I’m thinking that the cartoon came out after World War 2 because in one part, a hitman was advertising his price range for killing people. At the bottom range, the flyer said, “Japs Free!” When you consider the time frame and feelings about Pearl Harbor, it’s pretty darn funny.
Anywhere is this country.
They sell it in other parts of the world. A friend of ours picked it up in Japan ~12 years ago and dubbed it for us.
I had heard Disney was considering re-releasing it in the States, but I doubt it will ever happen.
“I had heard Disney was considering re-releasing it in the States, but I doubt it will ever happen.”
Yeah, we’re too thin skinned here in the states for it. Sad, it’s a wonderful movie.
When I lived in England in 2000 I saw a video tape of it on the shelf at a video store and I rented it because I had never seen it.
They never released it in America but they did release the English version in Britain. I bought about 6 copies last year and gave them as gifts. Needless to say everyone was astounded and happy to get them.
See post 14 about Song of the South. Get a copy for yourself and one for your friends.
Ooo! Thanks for the link!
Song of the south DVD
Your welcome! They were great quality also. I was worried I’d get ripped off but they gave me a pretty good deal because I bought so many.
You have a copy of a movie that originally aired in English, dubbed in Japanese, then re-dubbed back to English? That is hilarous. Reminds me of a Newsradio TV episode when the Jimmy James (station owner) character has his book translated into Japanese then back to English to increase sales.
I’m glad to hear it...they’re having a sale too. $12.50
Can’t wait to show my kids where the Zippity Do Dah song comes from that they hear when we’re at Disney World. lol
Times change, and so do opinions. There are cartoons I grew up watching that I would never let my own children watch today.
They also had these posted at mostoffensivevideo.com - some of them were a riot to watch considering the time in which they were produced. Some of the WWII cartoons were particularly funny (see “Bugs Bunny Nips the Nips”). We need more cartoons like these today, particularly with the WOT. These cartoons, particularly the WWII ones, boosted morale in this country which, in turn, helped to rally the populace to our cause.
Tried that but got no response
I remember going to the movies to see this as a child. It was a gentle kind of movie for kids. Not much like what one sees today. Its a different world though now.
However, IIRC, Lil Abner was used repeatedly to poke fun at city folks.
The strip was very popular in rural areas.
The asinine thing about this is that Song of the South is more demeaning to white people than to black people. The kid’s parents are self-absorbed twits (Old South Boomers?), while the old black man shows common sense and genuinely cares about the kids.
It's on DVD, they just won't sell it here in the US.
From Hollyweird to you:
One of my fondest memories growing up was the “minstrel show” we did in the 6th grade in full “black face”. No malice was intended nor was anyone demeaned, I remember we all had a really good time rehearsing then putting on the show for our parents. That would have been in about 1956-57 or so. Too bad, those days are long gone now.
I got “Song Of The South” from somewhere on the internet app 5 years ago, but I don’t have the website bookmark anymore :(
Try www.ioffer.com Someone there may have it, I even got “Letty Lynton” there, and some old Norma Shearer silents, and her first talkie “The Trial Of Mary Dugan”.
Thanks very much for posting the link.
Did Lil’Abner every snatch that babe? If not I’d suspect he’s gay.
It will probably be gone before tomorrow now that the NYT has printed how to find it.
I got it via a site online —and they even had the NON-Disney
Coal Black appended to it. Even saved money by getting an “opened” copy (they inspect some)
Try this site for the cartoons. http://www.angelfire.com/comics/mov/banned.html
No, I should have explained. The movie audio is all in original English.
They have Japanese subtitles, but only (interestingly enough) during the songs.
I loved Newsradio.
You can find Song of the South dvd on ebay usually. I bought 2 copies of it about a year ago. It was one of my favorite movies as a young child. I couldnt believe they banned it.
Hey, the music on that thing is pretty good!
what am I missing?
How friggin’ long to copyrights last? They haven’t been broadcast for 40 years.
“Japs! Millions of em!”
The name Sambo’s was so controversial in some places
that the name Laughing Tiger was substituted...It was based on the names of the founders, SAM Battistone and Newell