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"Lost" Boys Accounted For (YFZ/fLDS Daily Thread - 4/29/08)
April 29, 2008 | By Brian West and Amy Joi O'Donoghue

Posted on 04/29/2008 7:34:43 AM PDT by greyfoxx39

One phase of FLDS work is complete

SAN ANGELO, Texas — The last of the extra Texas state troopers, child welfare investigators and others involved in the massive effort of caring for Fundamentalist LDS Church children in custody have rolled out of town. "The demobilization of resources in San Angelo was completed only (Monday)," said Gov. Rick Perry's spokeswoman Krista Piferrer. "It was a large scale effort with a tremendous law enforcement presence, nonprofit presence and (Child Protective Services) workers from all around the state. We basically transformed a coliseum into a shelter.

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Boys located

Attorneys identified Monday the location of an 11-year-old boy whose name had not been included in a master list of the children and the foster care facilities where they were taken.

We're not exactly sure about what happened. His name was just removed from the list for some reason," said Cynthia Martinez, communications director for Texas RioGrande Legal Aid. The group represents the boy's mother and nearly 50 other FLDS mothers. The mother called looking for information about the boy and his 16-month-old brother but their names weren't listed and no one could provide her answers.

The toddler is believed to be at one of the facilities, but authorities still aren't sure where. There are three children in custody with the same or similar names.

CPS workers insist the two boys have always been safe, but because of confusion with many of the children's names and birth dates, it's been difficult to properly identify all of them. Many of the mothers and children provided false or different information at various times, they say.

"The placement list we have might not agree with the mothers, but that's the information we were given by them," said CPS spokesman Patrick Crimmins. "It's certainly understandable and probably frustrating, but I don't think you can consider those children were ever unaccounted for or missing."

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Crimmins said as of Monday afternoon, six FLDS children removed from the YFZ Ranch were in hospitals. None has serious health issues. One child has an ear infection, another has respiratory issues. Crimmins said he did not know specifics about the other four.

"In all of these cases but one, the mother is either with the child or is being kept up to date on the child's condition," he said. "I don't know about visitation of the children but that will be arranged if we can do it."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cpswatch; fldsdailythread; jeffs; lostboys; missing; polygamy; yfz
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To: TexasRedeye

He’ll be out in two. Just in time to be re-elected!!!!!!


Not the feds. He will serve the full sentence unless he dies before it’s up.


61 posted on 04/29/2008 2:42:40 PM PDT by deport ( -- Cue Spooky Music --)
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To: MizSterious

Well, the young children have about equal amounts of each gender, so that probably isn’t so. I think you can feel better about that.

But the idea of a very sheltered 13 year old boy thrown out onto the street to survive, well that’s upsetting also.

I did read about that account of the family that were serial murderers - one of the women said her daughters were killed because they were handicapped. I would have to find out more about that, but I don’t think that’s the norm.


62 posted on 04/29/2008 3:10:40 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: I still care

Yes, that is a little better—tossing them out on the street at puberty though, is, as you say, almost equally disturbing. I hope it’s ALL exposed, and maybe this raid will finally do the job.


63 posted on 04/29/2008 3:19:59 PM PDT by MizSterious (The Republican Party is infected with the RINO-virus)
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Teen FLDS mother giving birth while state officials stand by

SAN MARCOS, Texas (AP) — One of hundreds of young polygamist-sect members taken into custody by the state was giving birth Tuesday while child welfare officials and state troopers stood watch outside the maternity ward.

The teenager was admitted to the Central Texas Medical Center and was in labor, said Rod Parker, a spokesman for the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. He contends she is 18, but state officials have the girl on a list of minors taken into state custody.

State officials raided the FLDS’s Yearning For Zion Ranch in Eldorado on April 3. They took custody of 463 children on the belief that the sect’s practice of underage and polygamous spiritual marriages endangered the children. The children are now scattered in foster-care facilities around the state.

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http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iIdMpRHjN4hpNKBhfYyAsR4DDo4QD90BNCD00


64 posted on 04/29/2008 3:32:13 PM PDT by I.D.E.A
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To: I still care
I did read about that account of the family that were serial murderers - one of the women said her daughters were killed because they were handicapped. I would have to find out more about that, but I don’t think that’s the norm.

Unfortunately, we don't KNOW what the norm is for a situation in which one man excercises absolute and total control over a group and there is no one to gainsay him. The closest comparisons I can thing of are the Jonestown suicides and the Waco deaths.

65 posted on 04/29/2008 3:52:32 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?))
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To: greyfoxx39

Children of the sect born with fumarase deficiency disease may have died in relatively large numbers. The disease can be severe, or mild, the victims sometimes die early, sometimes later. I would wonder how many died from this genetic disease at that location. Even newborns can be severely affected; or it may not do its damage until the child is older. As far as I know, there is no treatment and it is always fatal, plus it causes severe retardation.

So, who knows?


66 posted on 04/29/2008 4:00:24 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Don't just do something! Stand there!)
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To: Judith Anne

Think of how scary it is that there an unknown number of humans coming out of these cults who carry this gene. There are no medical records to check, no birth or death records, and no way to know that when these people or their descendants get into the general population, who may be a carrier.


67 posted on 04/29/2008 4:18:52 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?))
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

That’s possible. I haven’t really bought into the “lost boys” though. I believe people that say some get kicked out but are these the rebellious ones? They have these “workers” that could bring in money. Why waste them? I kind of wonder about these also being future leaders too. It might be best to send them to adult shelters like they did the adult women.


68 posted on 04/29/2008 4:22:08 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: greyfoxx39

Exactly. This disease appears literally almost exclusively in the FLDS sect, and has been devastating. Incest and closed intermarriaged are the only reasons, since it is a recessive gene.


69 posted on 04/29/2008 4:22:21 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Don't just do something! Stand there!)
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To: keats5
Why is the whole nation not aghast that of 400+ children seized, only 20 some were boys?

Because that factiod isn't true. But carry on with jumping to conclusions

70 posted on 04/29/2008 4:25:49 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Holy State or Holy King - Or Holy People's Will - Have no truck with the senseless thing.)
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To: keats5

How many of the 53 are “spiritually married”?


71 posted on 04/29/2008 4:26:46 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: greyfoxx39

Wow, San Marcos. (seems weird to see that town in the news, 2 of my sons went to college there and up until a couple of years ago at least one of them was still living there—spent a lot of time driving there from East TX!)

Anyway, yeah, I suspect someone is a little nervous.

God bless the Mom and baby.

susie


72 posted on 04/29/2008 4:30:20 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: SouthTexas
Are they still around? Have they offered to be tested? The men here may not be the daddys of these kids.
73 posted on 04/29/2008 4:32:49 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: greyfoxx39

Can they be tested to see if they are carriers?
susie


74 posted on 04/29/2008 4:33:33 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Judith Anne

Would be interesting if they have done (or could do) a pedigree research to see if they could pinpoint the original carrier. One of my breeds of dogs has a lethal recessive gene in the gene pool and they had an expert go back and find the probably original carrier.

susie


75 posted on 04/29/2008 4:35:36 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: brytlea

Unless this isn’t her first, the mom will never know how good she had it.


76 posted on 04/29/2008 4:35:36 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

I was thinking the same thing. ;)
susie


77 posted on 04/29/2008 4:36:37 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: brytlea

This is what Wikipedia says about the fumerase deficiency gene:

“It is believed that Joseph Smith Jessop, one of the founders of the communities, and his first wife carried the mutant allele. According to the Phoenix New Times, the rare disease appeared when their 12th child, Martha Jessop, married her second cousin, John Yeates Barlow, in 1923.”


78 posted on 04/29/2008 4:41:38 PM PDT by LimberJim
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To: CindyDawg

I have no idea if they are around and I don’t think the state does either and I can see no reason they would incriminate themselves even if they were. The DNA testing may not be the magic bullet so many seem to think it is.


79 posted on 04/29/2008 4:44:16 PM PDT by SouthTexas (If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!)
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To: Politicalmom

bttt


80 posted on 04/29/2008 4:59:05 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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