Skip to comments.Joseph Smith Marries the Wives of Other Men
Posted on 05/10/2008 11:06:21 AM PDT by AnalogReigns
There is substantial evidence to show that Joseph Smith was sealed to the wives of other men. This occurred while the men were still legally married to their wives. Sometimes these second marriages even occurred outside the presence of their husbands. Many of the poor guys were on their missions when Joseph Smith married their wives. The most unfortunate men came back from their missions with their wives pregnant. How would you feel if the Prophet asked you for your wife? How would you feel if you came back from a business trip or a mission to find your wife months into pregnancy?
I should not be leaving the female audience out of this debate. How do you think the women felt about this? Their husbands were away on missions, and Joseph, a "Prophet of God", desired to marry them and have them for himself. What would your response be to this?
The question has now been asked of you, "Would you give your wife to Joseph Smith or any Prophet?" What is your response?
If you said, "Yes", then you share the same answer that some men gave to Joseph.
In this article we are going to be dealing with a couple of issues. There are going to be a lot of people that have no idea what I am talking about, so I have provided a lot of my documentation in this article.
The first hint that led me to believe that Joseph Smith married the wives of other men was in a speech given by Jedidiah Grant on February 19, 1854. (See Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, pg. 14)
Imagine yourself listening to a sermon by the second counselor of the Prophet:
"I would ask you if Jehovah has not in all ages tried His people by the power of Lucifer and his associates; and on the other hand, has He not tried them and proved them by His Prophets? Did the Lord actually want Abraham to kill Isaac? Did the Prophet Joseph want every man's wife he asked for? He did not, but in that thing was the grand thread of the Priesthood developed. The grand object in view was to try the people of God, to see what was in them. If such a man of God should come to me and say, "I want your gold and silver, or your wives," I should say, "Here they are, I wish I had more to give you, take all I have got."
There are a couple of ways that you could interpret this sermon. First, you could say that Joseph Smith never asked such things, but this has been verified by reliable accounts, including one of Heber C.Kimball (Stanley Kimball, "Mormon Patriarch and Pioneer", University of Illinois Press, 1981, pg.93). The second foreseeable argument is that this was only a "test".
In this lengthy article I will attempt to show that Joseph Smith not only asked for the wives of married men, but that he actually married them both for "time" and "eternity". Some may then argue that Joseph never consummated the relationships. This may be difficult for me to prove, but I will make an effort at it.
Going back to Jeridiah's speech. He alluded to the story of Isaac and Abraham when Abraham was going to sacrifice his son (Genesis 22).
Think about it - "Would there have been a threat to Isaac if Abraham did not have a knife to slay his son? Would Isaac have been in jeopardy if his father had not bound him?" In my opinion, there would have been no test if there wasn't the possibility that Isaac could have been killed.
Now I pose a similar question "How could Joseph be testing men if there was not the knowledge that he had already married other men's wives?" In my opinion, the threat of Joseph marring another man's wife was real -- Joseph had married the wives of other men! This I intend to show to you beyond any reasonable doubt.
In my attempt to show that Joseph married other men's wives I will use some "anti" Mormon sources. But, because I realize that my Mormon audience will likely ignore these sources I will keep them to a minimum.
It's very interesting to note that it was the apostates and non- Mormons that showed that Joseph Smith practiced polygamy during the early years of the church. At this time, the LDS Church and Joseph Smith denied the practice, yet now, almost everyone knows that Joseph had plural wives. At that time there was truth to the apostate's statements and there is truth to their statements today.
JOSEPH'S PLURAL WIVES Lucinda Pendelton Morgan Harris Birthday: September 27, 1801 Second Husband: George Washington Harris First Husband: Famous Anti-Mason, William Morgan Date of marriage to George: January 12, 1831
Joseph Smith likely married Lucinda in 1838 when she was staying at the Harris home in Far West (History of the Church, vol. 3, pg. 9). This is supported by a statement made by Mrs. Sarah Pratt, "Mrs. Harris was a married lady, a very great friend of mine. When Joseph had made his dastardly attempt on me [in 1842], I went to Mrs. Harris to unbosom my grief to her. To my utter astonishment, she said, laughing heartily: 'How foolish you are! Why, I am his mistress since four years'." (Mormon Portraits, 1886, pg. 60, "anti")
Prescindia Huntington Buell Birthday: September 7, 1810 Husband: Norman Buell Date of marriage to Norman: 1837
The Utah Church historian, Andrew Jensen provides the date of the marriage to Joseph on December 11, 1841. Prescindia's brother performed the ceremony. In 1846 Prescindia left Norman and later married Heber C. Kimball. (No Man Knows My History, Fawn Brodie, pg. 462, "anti").
Some may argue that Joseph never consummated his relationship with Prescindia. However, Oliver her son may have been Joseph's son. Oliver was looked upon by the Huntington family as the Prophet's son by sealing Oliver to Joseph. The diary entry for November 14, 1884 for Oliver Huntington says, "Then I stood Proxy for the Prophet Joseph Smith in having sealed or adopted to him a child of my sister Prescenda, had while living with Norman Buell."
At this point I am probably not doing to well in proving my point to my Mormon audience. There are likely two strikes against me for using the "anti" Mormon references. I will try to make a better case for Nancy Marinda Hyde. Nancy Marinda Johnson Hyde Birthday: June 28, 1815 Husband: Orson Hyde Date of marriage to Orson: September 4, 1834
Nancy was likely taught polygamy by Joseph when Orson Hyde was on his mission to Palestine. In 1841, Nancy was given a direct revelation through Joseph to "hearken to the counsel of my servant Joseph in all things whatsoever he shall teach unto her" (History of the Church, vol. 4, pg. 467).
Two of Nancy's children may have been the Prophet's. I researched the birthdays of both of the children and only with Frank Henry is there any substantial credence to this claim. Frank Henry was born on January 23, 1845. Orson Hyde had left on a mission to Washington on April 4, 1844 "immediately" after a meeting with Joseph Smith (History of the Church, pg. 286). The gestation period for a human is on average 266 days (not 9 months). Of course 266 is an average date and the figures vary. To give you an idea of the range, only four percent of pregnancies are actually carried two weeks or more beyond the average time (Guttmacher, 1983).
Frank Henry was born on January 23, 1845. Orson Hyde left for Washington April 4, 1844. The difference in these two dates is 294 days! That is almost a month longer than expected and is basically physiologically impossible, especially considering that Orson Hyde had not returned to Nauvoo until August 6, 1844 (Andrew Jenson, Church Chronology, August 6, 1844). Zina Diantha Huntington Jacobs Birthday: January 31, 1821 Husband: Henry B. Jacobs Date of marriage to Henry: March 7, 1841
Joseph Smith was married to Zina shortly after her marriage to Henry Jacobs. Zina has been recorded as saying, "I wish to bear my testimony to the principle of celestial marriage, that it is true ......I became [Joseph's] wife at this time in Nauvoo and I never in my life had a rebellious thought against that principle, for which I thank the Lord." (Collected Discourses, vol. 5, Joseph F. Smith, December 23, 1894)
Statements written by apostates strengthen this evidence. For instance, John D. Lee wrote that "I then took a tour down through Illinois [winter 1842]. H.B. Jacobs accompanied me as a fellow companion on the way. Jacobs was bragging about his wife, what a true, virtuous, lovely woman she was. He almost worshipped her. Little did he think that in his absence she was sealed to Prophet Joseph" (Mormonism Unveiled, p 132, "anti"). William Hall's statement in his book supported this statement further: " A Mr. Henry Jacobs had his wife seduced by Joe Smith, in his time, during a mission to England." (The Abominations of Mormonism Exposed, pg. 43-44, "anti").
Zina had not left Jacobs until 1846 which means that Joseph Smith married a woman that was already married.
For a look at more evidence read "All Things Move in Order in the City": The Nauvoo Diary of Zina Diantha Huntington Jacobs, Edited by Maureen Ursenbach Beecher, BYU Studies, Vol. 19, No. 3, p.285 Mary Elizabeth Rollins Lightner Birthday: April 9, 1818 Husband: Adam Lightner Date of Marriage to Adam: August 11, 1835
Mary admitted her marriage to Joseph Smith in a public address. She said in part, "I am the first being that the revelation was given to him for and I was one thousand miles away in Missouri, for we went up to Jackson County in 1841 ..... I went forward and was sealed to him. Brigham young performed the sealing, and Heber C. Kimball the blessing. I know he had six wives and I have known some of them from childhood up. I knew he had three children. They told me. I think two are living today, but they are not known as his children as they go by other names." (Mary Lightner,1905 Address, typescript, BYU, Pg. 2-3)
In another statement Mary Lightner said, "Joseph said I was his before I came here and he said all the Devils in Hell should never get me from him. I was sealed to him in the Masonic Hall, over the old brick store by Brigham Young in February 1842 and then again in the Nauvoo Temple by Heber C. Kimball." (Original sworn affidavit owned by Mrs. Nell Osborne of Salt Lake City, February 8, 1902). Patty Bartlett Sessions Birthday: February 4, 1795 Husband: David Sessions Date of marriage to David: June 28, 1812
Patty Sessions was sealed to Joseph Smith on March 9, 1842 as indicated by her personal journal entry, "I was sealed to Joseph Smith by Willard Richards March 9, 1842, in Newel K. Whitney's chamber, Nauvoo, for time and all eternity ...." Fanny Young Murray Birthday: November 8, 1787 Husband: Roswell Murray Date of marriage to Roswell: 1832
Brigham Young reported the marriage of his sister to Joseph Smith in the Journal of Discourse: "As far as this pertains to our natural lives here, there are some who say it is very hard. They say, 'This is rather a hard business; I don't like my husband to take a plurality of wives in the flesh.' Just a few words upon this. We would believe this doctrine entirely different from what it is presented to us, if we could do so. If we could make every man upon the earth get him a wife, live righteously and serve God, we would not be under necessity, perhaps, of taking more than one wife. But they will not do this; the people of God, therefore, have been commanded to take more wives. The women are entitled to salvation if they live according to the word that is given to them .... I recollect a sister conversing with Joseph Smith on this subject.... Joseph said, 'Sister, you talk very foolishly, you do not know what you will want.' He then said to me [B.Y.]: 'Here, brother Brigham you seal this lady to me.' I sealed her to him. This was my own sister according to the flesh." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 16, pg. 166-167).
The marriage ceremony occurred on November 2, 1843 according to Andrew Jenson, LDS Church Historian. (No Man Knows My History, Fawn Brodie, pg. 484, "anti"). POLYGAMY WAS AGAINST THE LAW:
Polygamy was against the law in Illinois. An Illinois state law was enacted February 12, 1833:
"Bigamy consists in the having of two wives or two husbands at one and the same time, knowing that the former husband or wife is still alive. If any person or persons within the State, being married, or who shall hereafter marry, do at any time marry any person or persons, the former husband or wife being alive, the person so offended shall, on conviction thereof, be punished by a fine, not exceeding one thousand dollars, and imprisoned in the penitentiary, not exceeding two years." (Revised Laws of Illinois, Vandalia: Greiner & Sherman, 1833, pg. 198-199).
POLYGAMY WAS AGAINST THE DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS:
The first edition of the Doctrine and Covenants (1835) included a section on LDS Marriages:
"Inasmuch as this Church of Christ has been reproached with the crime of fornication and polygamy, we declare that we believe that one man should have one wife, and one woman but one husband, except in the case of death, when either is at liberty to marry again." (History of the Church, vol. 2, pg. 247, it is interesting to note that this section in the D&C was in every single edition until 1876 when the D&C first included D&C 132).
One of the best books on the subject of Mormon polygamy is "Mormon Polygamy; A History", by Richard S. Van Wagoner, Signature Books, Salt Lake City, 1989, 2nd edition.
Another source which may be helpful is Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought, vol. 29, No. 2 "A Trajectory of Plurality: An Overview of Joseph Smith's Thirty-three Plural Wives".
Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought, vol. 27, No.l, Spring 1994 "Nauvoo Roots of Mormon Polygamy, 1841-46: A Preliminary Demographic Report" by George D. Smith. pp.1-72.
The article was published on Valentine’s Day? LOL.
I noticed that too. Ironic, eh?
Not surprised. It’s a pretty common pagan practice.
Joseph Smith was sealed to other women for Eternity who were married to other men for earth time.
There would be no
Meaning it there was no consummation between Joseph and the sealed wife.
But all children she had with her [time] husband would be Joseph Smith progenitors beyond the vail.
Maybe Rev Wright is a secret Mormon. He stole his wife from another guy.
I recently discovered that one of my g+g+g+g,etc. grandfathers was George Miller, who was Smith’s “right-hand man” and stayed with the Mormons until they split, some heading for Utah and the others to Texas, I believe. This grandfather had been married for 20-some years and then married three rather young ladies. Those three are not in the blood-line, but Miller’s first wife was.
Makes for a very confusing family tree.
I was reading the Bible the other day and read again the disturbing (to me anyway) account of King David stealing the wife of another man - no, I’m not talking about Bathsheba and Uriah - I’m talking about Michal, Saul’s daughter. Michal’s husband was weeping over the loss of his wife. Later Michal “despised” David in her heart.
But the main point I would like to make here is that you cannot judge spiritual matters by earthly processes. This article seeks to offer as fact a bunch of stuff slanted to fit a preconceived earthly notion.
And you guys wonder why the Emigrants were hounded out of Illinois and Missouri by men with guns?
Your buddy Joe was an ordinary cult leader using his gullible followers for the worst of reasons. Guys like him pop up over and over in history, and it's always the same story: what's yours is mine 'cuz God said so.
Not surprising he ended up dead and the rest of them ended up in the Salt Lake valley when it was the end of the Earth.
Um, adultery is a "spiritual matter"?
Last time I checked it was a mortal sin. No matter how you spin the rationale for it.
I was reading the Bible the other day and read again the disturbing (to me anyway) account of King David stealing the wife of another man - no, Im not talking about Bathsheba and Uriah - Im talking about Michal, Sauls daughter. Michals husband was weeping over the loss of his wife. Later Michal despised David in her heart.
That never happened at all...
Michal was promised to David...
Saul gave Michal to another man to spite David while he was gone..
David came back and claimed his rightful wife...
It was the other guy who had stolen David’s wife...
Michal was angry because David danced before the Lord and worshipped Him for the victory over the enemy...
Michal refused to dance herself so she despised David for doing so...
A bit of futher reading reveals how God punished Michal for her sin against God and David..
God shut up her womb and Michal never had any children.
Well, you’d be amazed at what religious hijinks a “prophet” who talks out of his hat can invent.
Please remember, there are very good articles written by LDS authors that show this article to be wrong.
Study both sides and don't be duped.
Make your own decision.
And Michal Saul’s daughter loved David: and they told Saul, and the thing pleased him. And Saul said, I will give him her, that she may be a snare to him, and that the hand of the Philistines may be against him. Wherefore Saul said to David, Thou shalt this day be my son in law in [the one of] the twain. 1 Samuel 18:20, 21
Wherefore David arose and went, he and his men, and slew of the Philistines two hundred men; and David brought their foreskins, and they gave them in full tale to the king, that he might be the king’s son in law. And Saul gave him Michal his daughter to wife. And Saul saw and knew that the LORD [was] with David, and [that] Michal Saul’s daughter loved him. 1 Samuel 18:27, 28
But Saul had given Michal his daughter, David’s wife, to Phalti the son of Laish, which [was] of Gallim. 1 Samuel 25:44
2Sa 3:13 And he said, Well; I will make a league with thee: but one thing I require of thee, that is, Thou shalt not see my face, except thou first bring Michal Saul’s daughter, when thou comest to see my face.
2Sa 3:14 And David sent messengers to Ishbosheth Saul’s son, saying, Deliver [me] my wife Michal, which I espoused to me for an hundred foreskins of the Philistines.
2Sa 3:15 And Ishbosheth sent, and took her from [her] husband, [even] from Phaltiel the son of Laish.
2Sa 3:16 And her husband went with her along weeping behind her to Bahurim. Then said Abner unto him, Go, return. And he returned. 2 Samuel 3:13-16
And as the ark of the LORD came into the city of David, Michal Saul’s daughter looked through a window, and saw king David leaping and dancing before the LORD; and she despised him in her heart.
2Sa 6:17 And they brought in the ark of the LORD, and set it in his place, in the midst of the tabernacle that David had pitched for it: and David offered burnt offerings and peace offerings before the LORD.
2Sa 6:18 And as soon as David had made an end of offering burnt offerings and peace offerings, he blessed the people in the name of the LORD of hosts.
2Sa 6:19 And he dealt among all the people, [even] among the whole multitude of Israel, as well to the women as men, to every one a cake of bread, and a good piece [of flesh], and a flagon [of wine]. So all the people departed every one to his house.
2Sa 6:20 ¶ Then David returned to bless his household. And Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David, and said, How glorious was the king of Israel to day, who uncovered himself to day in the eyes of the handmaids of his servants, as one of the vain fellows shamelessly uncovereth himself!
2Sa 6:21 And David said unto Michal, [It was] before the LORD, which chose me before thy father, and before all his house, to appoint me ruler over the people of the LORD, over Israel: therefore will I play before the LORD.
2Sa 6:22 And I will yet be more vile than thus, and will be base in mine own sight: and of the maidservants which thou hast spoken of, of them shall I be had in honour.
2Sa 6:23 Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death. 2 Samuel 6:16-23
That's makes it all better, huh?
Joseph Smith gets to keep all the children of some other man in eternity as well as that man's wife; and that other man who fathered all those children and loved and raised them as his own and loved that wife gets.... well.... what* exactly?
*(I can't adequately express my speculation as to the answer because this is the religion forum and no potty language is allowed; but it does refer to the smelly side of a particular stick).
And Michal “despised” David in her heart after all was said in done.
And God punished Michal for that..
Because David was worshipping God at the time...
God closed her womb and she NEVER had a child...
I still felt sorry for Michal’s husband who was brokenhearted.
He had stolen David’s wife...
Michal was David’s legal wife..
Actually Michal was the 2nd wife that Saul had taken off David and given to another man...
Because he was jealous of David..
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