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1 posted on 05/20/2008 6:57:42 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.

A repeat, I believe.

2 posted on 05/20/2008 6:58:36 PM PDT by blam
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Ice Age?

Pure speculation by denialists.

3 posted on 05/20/2008 7:00:01 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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Good article! Thanks.


5 posted on 05/20/2008 7:07:18 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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Our success as a species clearly owes much to those that are not content to look at horizons, but to go beyond them.Not a single one of us would be here today without those brave souls. To think of setting out into such total unknowns is almost alien to many today.
7 posted on 05/20/2008 7:11:47 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: blam

What ended the last Ice Age 25,000 years ago? Neanderthal fires??????


9 posted on 05/20/2008 7:16:04 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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To: blam
I have this book 1421 that I have not read yet, but will likely finish in the next couple of weeks.
 
I dunno if it will be a good book or not, but the subject matter has long intrigued me.
 
The Chinese under the Ming Dynasty were sailing the world, and might have "discovered" America decades before Columbus was even born.
 
Reading is such difficult work.

11 posted on 05/20/2008 7:18:00 PM PDT by Radix (The Army Times will not let me post "their images" of OUR Troops on Free Republic)
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To: blam
I saw this in "Waterworld"
17 posted on 05/20/2008 7:31:28 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire but I swear I didn't see it in my rearview mirror.)
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To: blam
Good article Blam.

Try this one http://www.foteviken.se/sewnboat/part1/part1.htm

Just to recall, this piece was published back when they still thought nautical terms and technology had been passed on from German speaking people to the Sa'ami.

We now know it was the other way around with even some grammatical practices in the Sa'ami languages having found themselves firmly lodged in the German languages.

These "sewn boats" are actually plank boats curved against a sort of proto-frame, and tied in place through holes drilled at regular intervals.

The discovery sites of the most ancient extant boats occur in upland sites throughout Scandinavia. Total wrecks are found in the estuaries. The implication is that the boats were built in the mountains, used, sold down river, and finally put to work in the Actic Ocean, a very unforgiving environment.

The fundamental hullshape and ribbing designs are translated to the early Indo-Europeans (aka Vikings) at some period of time. The boats were scaled up and turned into the typical seagoing ships used by the Vikings.

This piece gives a good idea of what might well have been an Ice Age boat design. The writer, though, seems to think this design was the step up from dugouts ~ even though there were no trees large enough to be "dug out" in the Sapmai!

One important point for archaeologists should be that improved boat designs in Scandinavia came about first at an early age INLAND for use on wild glacier rivers and streams. Those boats were then modified for use in the far gentler ocean.

23 posted on 05/20/2008 7:45:14 PM PDT by muawiyah
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"Bring me that horizon!"

-Capt. Jack Sparrow, speaking for all sailors of every age.

27 posted on 05/20/2008 7:56:18 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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32 posted on 05/20/2008 10:19:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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This is interesting. This puts humans in the techology arena early in our evolution. It also may explain our curious need for lots of fresh water, relative to other critters, since on coasts, this would be less of a selective factor.

No wonder the neanders couldn’t keep up. Pity, since they would be great for selling auto insurance today.


33 posted on 05/20/2008 10:32:40 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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He ought to be nervous. There are entrenched academics whose careers are cemented in the theory that the earliest humans came overland no ealier than 12,ooo years ago. And they like to destroy the careers of those who challenge them.


34 posted on 05/20/2008 10:48:42 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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As our technology and expanding scopes of our civilization allow us to explore and expand the edges of archeological inquiry, we’ll discover more and more instances where human kind rose above the “noble savagery” that we equate with ancient times and achieved more than we give them credit for.

Our pre-formed ideas about the primitive man don’t give enough credit to the intelligence and curiosity that is inherent in our species. I give more credit to our current civilizations achievements to the relative stability of our climate over the last 6 thousand years than to any improvements in our overall intelligence. And we aren’t any less likely to become the next civilized victim of climate change at the rate we’re going... Carbon credits aren’t going to hold back the seas if the seas should rise, or if the climate changes in the other direction, carbon credits aren’t going to warm our homes in the ultra-long winters or feed our children.


38 posted on 05/21/2008 3:13:23 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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Folks got to Australia 60,000 years ago, why not here too.


41 posted on 05/21/2008 10:57:41 PM PDT by Yellow Rose of Texas (Thoughts, feelings, and emotions are NOT facts!)
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Well of course they did, at least during various periods of pre-history.


42 posted on 05/21/2008 11:34:45 PM PDT by valkyry1
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First Americans
Discover | 2-1999 | Karen Wright
Posted on 10/06/2002 9:57:05 PM PDT by blam
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Rediscovering America
(The New World May Be 20,000 Years Older Than Experts Thought)
Blue Corn Comics (?) | Charles W, Petit
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The City Of The White Men (Who Built Tiahuanaco)
UNMuseum | unknown
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Migrating people had 20,000-year campout
Reuters via Yahoo | Tue Feb 12, 2008 | Maggie Fox
Posted on 02/13/2008 2:20:02 PM PST by Pharmboy
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Indian DNA Links To 6 ‘Founding Mothers’
Yahoo News/AP | 3-13-2008 | Malcom Ritter
Posted on 03/13/2008 2:04:39 PM PDT by blam
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Americas Settled 15,000 Years Ago, Study Says
National Geographic News | 3-13-2008 | Stefan Lovgren
Posted on 03/13/2008 2:12:58 PM PDT by blam
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Bison Bones Bolster Idea Ice Age Seafarers First To Americas
The NationalPost | 3-24-2008 | Randy Boswell - Can West News Service
Posted on 03/24/2008 2:14:57 PM PDT by blam
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Fossilized feces found in Oregon suggest earliest human presence in North America
Seattle Times | 02 Apr 2008 | Sandi Doughton
Posted on 04/03/2008 3:34:56 AM PDT by BGHater
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[newer repeat]

Did Humans Colonize the World by Boat?
Discover Magazine | 5-20-08 | Heather Pringle
Posted on 05/28/2008 4:14:50 AM PDT by Renfield
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45 posted on 05/28/2008 8:30:55 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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