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Titanic search was cover for secret Cold War subs mission
Times Online ^ | 5/24/08 | Lewis Smith

Posted on 05/23/2008 3:36:24 PM PDT by Dawnsblood

The man who located the wreck of the Titanic has revealed that the discovery was a cover story to camouflage the real mission of inspecting the wrecks of two Cold War nuclear submarines.

When Bob Ballard led a team that pinpointed the wreckage of the liner in 1985 he had already completed his main task of finding out what happened to USS Thresher and USS Scorpion.

Both of the United States Navy vessels sank during the 1960s, killing more than 200 men and giving rise to fears that at least one of them, Scorpion, had been sunk by the USSR.

Dr Ballard, an oceanographer, has admitted that he located and inspected the wrecks for the US Navy in top secret missions before he was allowed to search for the Titanic.

Only once he had used his new underwater robot craft to map the submarine wreck sites was he able to use it to crisscross the North Atlantic seabed to pinpoint the last resting place of the luxury liner. It meant he had only 12 days to find the Titanic.

“I couldn’t tell anybody,” he said. “There was a lot of pressure on me. It was a secret mission. I felt it was a fair exchange for getting a chance to look for the Titanic.

“We handed the data to the experts. They never told us what they concluded – our job was to collect the data. I can only talk about it now because it has been declassified.”

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coldwar; navy; shipwreck; sub; subtrefuge; titanic; ussscorpion; ussthresher
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To: zot
Thresher ping.
41 posted on 05/23/2008 8:57:48 PM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? Check out ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: Sub-Driver
Why would they use a live and armed torpedo in a training exercise? Why did they not have a way to disarm the rogue torpedo? Why did they not have counter measures. If the sub looked like it was run through a shredder, how could they have any idea about the cause of the sinking? Something doesn't smell right.
42 posted on 05/23/2008 9:02:48 PM PDT by Know et al (Everything I know I read in the newspaper and that's the reason for my ignorance. Will Rogers)
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To: Rebelbase

Q: What do these have in common?

John Anthony Walker, Jr

his son, Michael Walker

John Walker Lind

A: They all need a short drop off a tall scaffold.


43 posted on 05/23/2008 9:23:34 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: null and void

Maybe that’s why it was defective!


44 posted on 05/23/2008 10:04:17 PM PDT by sailor4321
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To: Bubba_Leroy

>>>I can understand how a visual examination could show that it was destroyed by a torpedo, but how the hell could you tell whose torpedo it was?

Internal blast pattern outward, or not.


45 posted on 05/23/2008 11:57:19 PM PDT by tlb
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To: sig226
Thanks for the memory jog. I had forgotten that one. Makes the story even less plausible.
46 posted on 05/24/2008 5:22:15 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Will this thread be jacked by a Mormon?)
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To: null and void; sailor4321

Beat me,
‘Assembled in Mexico from US and Chinese parts”


47 posted on 05/24/2008 5:34:41 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: Portcall24

Great book! After I read it I passed it along to an old submariner pal of mine and he had high praise for it.


48 posted on 05/24/2008 6:09:34 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Vinnie

Yours is better.


49 posted on 05/24/2008 7:17:07 AM PDT by null and void (The one word of Chinese our congress really understands is 'kowtow')
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To: sig226

One very enlightening book.


50 posted on 05/24/2008 7:28:07 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: Interesting Times
Thanks for the ping. The loss of Thresher really tore up the little town of Portsmouth, NH, where most of the crew and their families lived.
51 posted on 05/24/2008 4:02:36 PM PDT by zot
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