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Was Obama's "Certificate of Birth" manufactured?
Blogtownhall ^ | 6/20/08 | Polark

Posted on 06/17/2008 6:00:53 PM PDT by freespirited

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To: freespirited

Where is the original, the one printed in 1961 and don’t tell me it is been lost, I was born in 1961 and I still have my original birth certificate!


201 posted on 06/18/2008 5:29:45 AM PDT by The Louiswu (Just say NO... to Hillary and O'Bama)
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To: muawiyah
He was born a Muslim, his family was Muslim and he went to Muslim schools. He said he was never a Muslim. His brother in Kenya and his half-sister from Indonesia both confirmed that he was raised Muslim. Do you think saying ‘I was never a Muslim’ isn't a lie?
202 posted on 06/18/2008 5:33:18 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: esquirette; Blood of Tyrants
The statement about "race" is simply not true. See some of my posts for a fuller assessment.

In 1961 you could get almost anything since it was up to the local authorities to decide what race you were, and what a race actually was.

The federal government had not yet imposed their nonsense system on everyone.

203 posted on 06/18/2008 5:34:13 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: freespirited
WAIT, there is an even bigger red herring here. All of the type on this document was produced by the same program.

That's what jumped out at me. I would expect that the font for (ex) Mother's Name and the the actual name of the mother would be diferent but they're not. It's all the exact same font. I thought it was a fake when I went to Daily Kos but then I went there expecting to see a fake.

204 posted on 06/18/2008 5:37:04 AM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: ClearCase_guy
It seems obvious that this is a laserprint of a computerized report, showng data about Obama that was pulled from a database.

I don't think so. This is a Photoshop job using bit-mapped pieces of text and layering them onto a crudely faked certificate background. This is not something a bureaucrat secretary does routinely.

205 posted on 06/18/2008 5:38:04 AM PDT by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: Cicero

Where does the document under discussion say “African American”. I looked several times and it says “African”. The man was, in fact, an “African”. If he’d bought a house in this country he would have been described as of “the African race”. This is 1961 information - not something out of today’s PC milieu. It was a simpler time. Officially even Jews were still referred to as “Hebrew”.


206 posted on 06/18/2008 5:38:51 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

I bed somebody got ahold of a copy of Obama’s birth certificate. Maybe Hillary or McCain.

Remember a few months ago when some contractors were fired at the passport office for looking into passport application files? You have to know they looked into Obama’s file and pulled a Sandy Berger.


207 posted on 06/18/2008 5:40:11 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: freespirited

I don’t know that something like that would even matter now- I just mentioned it because it is interesting what used to be put on BCs. I was pretty serious about genealogy for a few years and it is amazing the way things were done “back in the day” on different documents.


208 posted on 06/18/2008 5:41:45 AM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: Drawsing

Yeah, I misunderstood the intent of the article. I now find this turn of events to be highly interesting.


209 posted on 06/18/2008 5:41:47 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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To: BIGLOOK

Why? I’ve seen plenty of documents from the 1960s that use the term “African”. Are you suggesting they were all fakes?


210 posted on 06/18/2008 5:45:29 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: TribalPrincess2U
Nice site. Bookmarked.
211 posted on 06/18/2008 5:47:23 AM PDT by McGruff (This is not the [your name here] I knew.)
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To: ladyjane

They worked for an Obama Adviser and it was a Watergate moment that the press gleefully ignored because Obama was crying foul the loudest and pointing fingers at Condelezza Rice.


212 posted on 06/18/2008 5:48:30 AM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: RetSignman

Hawaii was NOT a foreign country. It had been annexed to the US in Mark Twain’s time. SEE: Mark Twain.


213 posted on 06/18/2008 5:48:38 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Brilliant
I don’t see how the fact that it was produced on a computer proves anything. That’s probably how the State of Hawaii produces them.

As I said in another post, it is not simply "produced on a computer". This is a laborious patchwork job using layers of text and graphics in a graphics program to produce a fake certificate. In my opinion this is not routine work for a secretary tasked with providing copies of birth certificates.

214 posted on 06/18/2008 5:49:32 AM PDT by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: Just A Nobody
Arab, as it turns out, is not currently, nor has it ever been, one of the race identifiers commonly used in the US. Sometimes you'll see a "semitic race" thing, but that's usually used in place of "Hebrew race".
215 posted on 06/18/2008 5:51:14 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: originalbuckeye

He wasn’t “raised” with his brother. To use the vernacular his brother don’t know sh*t about it.


216 posted on 06/18/2008 5:57:45 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Lancey Howard

http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/3/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg

Actually, if you look closely at this enlarged version at dailykos, you can see a fold near the top through the seal. However, I’m not sure I believe this is a real birth certificate. My jury is still out. I would love to see another copy of a birth certificate from Hawaii.

I have looked closely at the rest of the document at kos and cannot find another fold. Why would this just befolded once and why so near the top and not near the center?

Just weird I guess.


217 posted on 06/18/2008 6:01:34 AM PDT by spotbust1 (Procrastinators of the world unite . . . . .tomorrow!!!)
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To: muawiyah

Yeah, I know, I’ve been called on my uniformed statement on an earlier justified post by Beckwith.

My doctor said I’d have days like that if I didn’t stay on my meds.

I still believe that the document is fake...I think.


218 posted on 06/18/2008 6:11:28 AM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: spotbust1

To fit in a standard envelope.


219 posted on 06/18/2008 6:13:56 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Bluebird Singing
One is usually not called II until a III comes along as with the birth of a grandchild who is given the same name.

My birth certificate has a II on it. My son is III.

220 posted on 06/18/2008 6:47:17 AM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (When all you have is a kitty, every problem looks like a troll.)
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