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Was Obama's "Certificate of Birth" manufactured?
Blogtownhall ^ | 6/20/08 | Polark

Posted on 06/17/2008 6:00:53 PM PDT by freespirited

 

Was Obama's "Certificate of Birth" manufactured?

Posted by Polarik on Friday, June 20, 2008 12:00:00 AM
The Daily Kos blog has posted a JPG that allegedly is Barack Obama's "Certificate of Birth." From a detailed analysis of the image and the text, it looks like it was created by a graphics program, and is not a true copy of an original, certified document.

I've been working with computers, printers, and typewriters for over 20 years, and given a set of printed letters, I can discern what kind of device made them. Printer output is quite different from the text created by a graphics program, and even if a document looks "official," it may not be.

The "Certificate of Birth," which I will call "COB," is posted on the Kos website as a color JPG. The reason for making it a color JPG, IMHO, is to induce the viewer to believe that this is a genuine copy of an original document -- something that a black & white, or even greyscale, reproduction would not convey as well.

Basically, anyone could have produced this document on his or her own computer, and I'll tell you why.

As represented by the JPG, the "original" COB seems to be a sheet of paper measuring 8.09" x 7.90" with a green "Rattan" pattern embedded in, or printed on, the paper and a "Bamboo mat" pattern for its border:

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At the bottom of the JPG image, reading right from left, one can see following text:

OHSM 1.1 (Rev. 11/01) Laser     This copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding. [HRS 338-13(b), 338-19]

There are a lot of problems with this statement, foremost of which is that the text in this document were produced by a graphics program and not a laser print, or any other printer, for that matter.

If the letters were made by a laser printer, you would be able to see the background, the pattern, through the spaces of the letters.

Here's a genuine copy of a real certificate of birth -- my own:

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When text is entered via a graphics program, the pattern cannot be seen without noticeable distortion. However, when text is entered with a computer printer or typewriter, you can clearly see the pattern below the letters.

Here is a segment of the COB showing the letters, "Certificat" (from the "Certification" field) enlarged about: 500%:

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Now, let's enlarge it some more:

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The fuzzy outline is a dead giveaway that these letters were made by a graphics program. Also a dead giveaway is that the letters still retain a sharp outline. With printed or typed text, there is a clearly definable characteristic of a symmetrical shadow when the image is saved at a lower resolution,  that is, a more compressed JPG file.

Here is the word, "Certification," from my certificate of birth enlarged :

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As you can see, there is virtually no distortion and no pixelation around the letters, and no dropouts from the background. The most noticeable pixelation and dropouts from the background can be seen in the Barack's father's name "HUSSEIN" on the COB:

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Take a look at the area between the "S's in "HUSSEIN."  No hint of any background color. Plenty of grey and white pixels -- exactly what would result from enlarging text entered with a graphics program.

WAIT, there is an even bigger red herring here. All of the type on this document was produced by the same program.

Whatever made the text for all of the headings also made the text for all of the entries.

What's wrong with that?

Well, only that real certificates are created ahead of time by a commercial printer, or, at least, a different printer than the one used to create the data entries. This is why the headings on my certificate of birth look entirely different than the entries.

That is questionable by itself. But it is the way the text looks that gives it away.

Any text made by a typewriter, laser printer, or even inkjet printer, would NOT have the smeared, black & white pixels underneath it -- there would be several pixels bearing the same color as the paper, nor would the left side of the letters be clear and free of any artifacts or shadows. Scalable type produced by a graphics program will look about the same regardless of the magnification with a minimal or uneven staircase pattern of pixels on its sides, whereas printed text -- even laser text -- will show a clear, uniform staircase pattern of pixels on both sides of each letter that proportionately increase in size with magnification.

Here are some examples:

Here is the "Certificate" heading from Barack's COB enlarged 5 times:

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Virtually all of the letters lack any shadows, and only the "A" and the "R" show only a slight, uneven staircase effect. Basically, the letters would look essentially the same -- especially letters made from straight lines like "I," "E," and "T," regardless of the magnification used to view them, and this is a key feature of scalable type produced by a graphics program.

Now, here is the "Certification," heading from my genuine certificate enlarged 5 times:

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The double shadow appears on all letters, and this shadow grows proportionately in size as the letters are enlarged. Also, there is pronounced staircase effect on the "C," "A," and "R." Notice, too, that the "steps" are uniform in size, in contrast to the uneven staircase effect on the Barack headings.

Again, the most glaring anomaly in Obama's COB is the following:

All of the letters that appear on Barack's Certificate of Birth were made, at the same time, and by the same method -- which was the use of a graphics program and not the use of any printer.

You can also tell that this is an obvious Photochop by looking at the border patterns.

Looking at the corners of the darker green border, you can see that the border is discontinuous. In other words, the vertical border bars were made by drawing a long rectangle, copying that rectangle, and then overlaying each of them on either side:

UPPER LEFT CORNER OF BORDER

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LOWER RIGHT CORNER OF BORDER


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What is readily apparent is that the top and bottom horizontal border bars are overlapped by the top and bottom edges of two vertical rectangles.

If this certificate was a professionally-made, there would not be any overlaps, or any outlines of the side rectangles -- the border would appear to be one, continuous whole. Note, too, that both the left and right side rectangles are equal in length. It appears that they were made that way ( or cloned) to make the patterns line up.

Now, getting back to statements on the certificate, there is something else clearly wrong with the "OHSM 1.1" statement at the bottom -- besides the fact that it was produced by a graphics program. There should have been that distinctive "double S" mark preceding the Section number of the statute -- , as in §338-13 --  so as to indicate that a reference is being made to a particular section of a statute, which, in this case, is Chapter §338, Section 13.

As for the first part, the acronym, "OHSM," stands for "Office of Health Statistics Management," which is not the responsible office within the Department of Health for issuing a certificate of birth. The "1.1" that follows refers to a non-existent document. If there were a "1.1", it would mean a revision of "Form 1" or "Document 1," and since "Document 1" is the form for a "Marriage Certificate," "OHSM 1" would refer to a Marriage Certificate form, and "OHSM 1.1," would refer to another version of that Marriage Certificate form, rather than a "Certificate of Live Birth" form.

Also, in this line, there is a reference to "HRS Section 338-13, paragraph (b)" which states, "Copies of the contents of any certificate on file in the department, certified by the department shall be considered for all purposes the same as the original, subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18."

OK...so where is the certification by the department?

Not only is there no department certification, there is also the absence of any watermark on the paper. Official state documents are supposed to have a watermark on the paper -- like my certificate of birth -- especially when that document is a very important one, like a certificate of birth.

A certified document must have a signature (or signatures) from individuals within the State's Department of Health who are authorized to reproduce the document, and to certify that the document is genuine.

Nothing like that appears anywhere in this JPG.

Also, the official Seal of Hawaii in this JPG is a 2nd generation, black & white bitmap copy of the original seal -- at best.

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You would think that the seal would be in color, like the original
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or at least a higher quality reproduction if this was a copy of an original document.

In short, there is nothing in this copy to indicate that it is, in fact, a "certified copy."  As I have shown above, there is a whole lot of evidence that it is a manufactured copy. There certainly is a very strong motive for creating one.

Unless the voting public is given a real birth certificate to examine, the question of Barack's birth is still up in the air.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; kos; obama; obamafamily; obamatruthfile
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To: usmcobra
Look here, you started your thread with "Do you have a stock answer for everything or are you getting them from the fight the smears webmasters?" and then began a line of argument that clearly suggested I wasn't a good Republican or Conservative.

That's an insult where I come from. That's why you're a troll, and a drooling troll at that (probably from DU itself ~ a place where the top posters are those who can use "mouth breather" more times in a given paragraph.

We know your kind eh.

261 posted on 06/18/2008 12:29:12 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Always Right

There’s stuff on the back.


262 posted on 06/18/2008 12:32:36 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: pissant

All the analysis proves is that this Certification of Live Birth is computer generated, not that it is not an official document. See below, from an official Hawaiian State Department, Department of Hawaiian Homelands, which knows the difference between a Birth Certificate and a Birth Certification:

http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/appforms/applyhhl

“In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL”

What Obama provided was his Birth Certification.


263 posted on 06/18/2008 12:37:17 PM PDT by NathanR (Obama: More 'African' than 'American'.)
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To: muawiyah

Apparently a date stamp leaked through, but the signature did not. But then again, we can’t see the stuff on the other side, so again this image prove nothing.


264 posted on 06/18/2008 12:38:37 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: NathanR
What Obama provided was his Birth Certification.

And I for one am interested on the additional information on the certificate, even if this certification is valid, which I still have some doubts on.

265 posted on 06/18/2008 12:41:32 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: NathanR

The author understands that it is a computer generated and printed certification, and that such documents are what Hawaii uses. His analysis is that this one is a FAKE certification that has been manipulated.


266 posted on 06/18/2008 12:44:11 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Always Right

Yet, we do have a chance to go to the “source” which is the state of Hawaii. That’s why this is far from being a Dan Rather moment.


267 posted on 06/18/2008 12:45:47 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Yet, we do have a chance to go to the “source” which is the state of Hawaii.

But unless you are asking for your own record, they would tell you to go fly a kite.

268 posted on 06/18/2008 1:01:21 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: pissant

I would like to see the real information too. However, this seems to be a “Kerry” moment, other than a “Rather” moment


269 posted on 06/18/2008 1:04:15 PM PDT by NathanR (Obama: More 'African' than 'American'.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Another HUGE blunder. In 1961 “African” was not a “race”. His father would have been listed as “black”, possibly “Negro” and maybe even “colored”. The person who reproduces them at request DOES NOT change any data for political correctness as that would be falsifying official government documents.

You are probably right about other states where the White-Negro color line was well established, but it could be that the registrar in Honolulu hadn't seen that many African-American children.

And remember, this was all before the federal government's racial classifications came in. In Hawaii, Chinese, Japanese, Native Hawaiians, Filipinos, and possibly even Portuguese all considered themselves separate groups. So you'd want to go back and look at different birth certificates issued at the time to see how they handled this.

Think back to 1961. If you heard that your new neighbor was an "African" you might have reacted differently than you would have if you were told that he was a Negro or black or colored, so I think it was probably natural that the family would want Barack Sr. categorized in such a way.

270 posted on 06/18/2008 1:05:40 PM PDT by x
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To: muawiyah; pissant
Yes, yes, yes, I know.....

Good conservatives don't question their opponents.

Good conservative believe everything they are told,

Good conservatives never ever ever have a bad thing to say about the loyal opposition.

Well do you have a stock answer that seems to come directly from Stop the smears or don't you?

So far you have done a better job of debunking the analysis put forward then any of the democrats have, Hell they might as well hire you to be their official Obama GOP Spokesperson seeing as you are such a great conservative and republican and all that and I am just a lowly troll....

I want you to read this carefully....

Vital records (birth, death, marriage, and divorce certificates) on file with the Department of Health may be amended (i.e., changes, corrections, additions, deletions, or substitutions) upon submission of the required documentation.

Who is eligible to apply and how to apply for an amendment?

Amended certificates of birth may be prepared and filed with the Department of Health, as provided by law, for 1) a person born in Hawaii who already has a birth certificate filed with the Department of Health or 2) a person born in a foreign country.

Late registration, registration one year or more after the date of the event’s occurrence, of certificates are permitted subject to evidentiary requirements.

In other words the state of Hawaii is perfectly willing to issue amended Birth Certificates to persons born in another country.

Now I realize that I a lowly troll and de facto scum sucking dog of the universe according to The Most righteous and Highly benevolent good conservatives and stanch republicans on this board should not even be allowed to dare to ask the question about Barack (The anointed Holy one Light weaver and 12th Iman of islam) HUSSEIN Obama, but I shall do so at the risk of my immortal soul....

Knowing now that Hawaii according to their own website can and will do such a thing, is it permissible with you that we question weather or not Obama's Original birth certificate has been amended and if so what has been changed and why?

That is all we really want to know.....

271 posted on 06/18/2008 1:51:36 PM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: NathanR
I would like to see the real information too. However, this seems to be a “Kerry” moment, other than a “Rather” moment.

A good analogy. There may be something there, but the chances of it seeing daylight are slim. It would probably take some kind of dirty trick to get Obama's birth certificate. I suspect that is something on it he does not want to reveal. What is on it? Name, date and time of birth, weight, height, sex, parents names, perhaps religion of parents, perhaps marital status of parents, hospital, doctor's name.

272 posted on 06/18/2008 2:03:49 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: usmcobra
You are reading that particular regulation very, very narrowly.

BTW, the operative statement has to do with "on file with", which means, quite literally, that the actual birth certificate is "on file with" whoever it is in Hawaii who keeps the files.

If they have a crappy system now and a crapier one in the past, I seriously doubt we would be able to get any closer to proving/disproving that Obama was born there than we are now.

At least for a while in his life his mother and grandparents would have made record of his existence, and when it comes to genealogy that's usually considered good enough.

BTW, if that's all you have State Department has procedures available for you to follow to prove you are who you say you are. If Obama has a real problem he can work that out with Condy I'm sure.

273 posted on 06/18/2008 2:11:35 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: NathanR; pissant
At most it's a Kerry moment, but not even a very good Kerry moment. We can actually get the folks in Hawaii to give us the information they have on file if we smile, give them a tip (or maybe not), and follow the procedures that allow us to get the information.

At the same time we can certainly have access to the blank form currently in use to see what is possible (which may well be different than what is required to be given).

Remember, every blank spot on a blank form doesn't mean somebody has to fill it in.

274 posted on 06/18/2008 2:16:11 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Unfortunately, one of the steps is to prove you are the person named on the certificate. That is one reason it is a John Kerry moment.


275 posted on 06/18/2008 2:20:03 PM PDT by NathanR (Obama: More 'African' than 'American'.)
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To: freespirited

I have not read this complete thread, so if it is addressed somewhere else, I’m sorry.
I have also stated this on another thread, same topic.

I have (i was born in hawaii in 1968) a birth certificate from Hawaii....1968.
No where on the certificate does it state or have a section for “nationality or race”.
I believe they did not ask or care for race of baby in Hawaii in the 60’s.
Also, there is alot more info on my BC then is on this document.
Birth state of parents, doctor who assisted, address of parents, age of parents, and there is a specific section which asks if father is active member of armed forces?

My son has a 1988 Hawaii BC and is asks the same questions.
Wouldn’t this document which is a replacement for a Certification of Birth have all the same info?

I don’t buy it.


276 posted on 06/18/2008 2:20:58 PM PDT by Aurorales
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To: usmcobra
BTW, when it comes to Obamasama's positions, I've listened to every Q&A session he's been in. Guy is a lightweight.

Other's tell me he's pretty good at delivering a speech, but speeches are drivel and dross ~ anybody can give a politician a good idea within the framework of a speech, but can he remember it?

I strongly suspect Obamasama has to be coached repeatedly to make an appearance in a courtroom - probably why he's not a trial attorney - just a flunky for a nonprofit lobbying operation.

Regarding any of his websites, he can't read them himself so why should I.

Give it up. The question about the birth certificates leads to nothing. He has American grandparents and an American momma. He got born. By public reputation and his grandmother's if no one else's memory he was born in the United States when he said he was born.

There's more to be gained by addressing the Canadian birth of Chester A Arthur.

277 posted on 06/18/2008 2:26:17 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Aurorales

But, is your birth certificate on file with the appropriate office in Hawaii? If it’s not, and you are walking around with it you could be effectively challenged by ICE and returned to your native country.


278 posted on 06/18/2008 2:28:52 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Let’s see:

1. I was making the same point as you to doubt the .JPEG. That is that using African for a black man’s race was unlikely in 1961. A government document would have very likely have said Negro as I suggested. As for your comment about what people might have said at the time, that has nothing to do with government documents that would not have included a slur. Now possibly the answer is there were not many blacks in Hawaii back so government officials were not familiar with the official terminology of the period or possibly the foreign parents race was listed by where they were from?

2. I still have asked a question about a document based on termnology. That has not been answered and you have not provided a link where it has been. BTW, it is not really your job to tell us all what to talk about.

3. No one that I have seen has testified that they have seen an official Hawaii birth certificate circa 1961 and it looks like this one.

I personally have plenty of reasons to vote against Obama, but I still find it odd the Obama campaign did not respond to this little kerfuffle by releasing his birth certificate?


280 posted on 06/18/2008 2:34:27 PM PDT by JLS
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