Posted on 06/17/2008 6:00:53 PM PDT by freespirited
It’s amazing. Another PR work in progress. Let someone else like Daily Kos do the dirty work and just in case it passes muster Obama will take the credit and if it doesn’t so what; we didn’t authorize, etc this and had nothing to do with it. We swear.
Actually not. They reprint the old one and certify it is a true and correct copy. The original usually stays the same.
My problem is the lower left hand corner which says ‘Rev. 11/01.” That means the form was REVISED November 2001. At least in Florida that is the way it would be.
But modern birth certificates have watermarks and other anti-copy features. Also, that seal looks crappy. In addition, would a birth certificate filled out at a US hospital in 1961 list “African” as the father’s race? No, he would have been listed as black or possibly Negro or colored.
If the birth certificate is phony, those involved in creating it have engaged in a criminal act.
The best way to handle this is to take a copy of Obama’s “certificate” to a Republican prosecuting attorney in Hawaii (there must be at least one), and discuss the issue with him. If it is phony, charges can be filed against those responsible.
Another option would be to take it to a Republican private attorney in Hawaii, preferably someone active in state GOP politics.
Now we have another reason why we can’t interview his maternal grandmother.
The more interesting question is why Obama’s campaign refused to release it but Kos could get a copy ?
Shades of Kerry’s “full disclosure”.
The Daily Kos probably got their inspiration for this phony document posting from Dan Rather and his friends on CBS!
Your statement about race is true. In 1961 white or black or negro or colored would have been on there for race.
The other thing is that a certified copy is certified by someone who made the copy in the office of vital records. The original was signed by someone and that signature remains a part of the permanent record. Then the copy is certified by the clerk making the certified copy.
That’s what I don’t understand. Birth Certificates are hardly national secrets. I had to give a copy of my kid’s certificates just to get them into soccer.
Why doesn’t he simply order up a clean copy of the certificate and hand it to the New York Times?
I doubt there is anything to this story, but Obama is doing his best to make it look like there is. Maybe that’s the point — to drag it out, and then release it and make everybody who questioned it look stupid.
That’s why I focus on the stupidity of not releasing a simple document, rather than what could be IN the document.
Is the Revised date for the printed certificate or is it for the blank form on which the individual's personal information is printed?
Interesting.
Also- for the record- it appears Obama is using the same one as Daily Kos.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert
That would be the blank form.
It’s interesting that he was named Barack Hussein Obama II and not Jr. on his birth certificate. One is usually not called II until a III comes along as with the birth of a grandchild who is given the same name.
The guess here is that the creator of this bogus document didn't have the real document at all, and thought that putting a phony certificate number on it might give the forgery away - if that number could be checked against the state birth registry.
That's the catch. It was not consistent with a laser printer printout of a document. It was consistent with a digitally created image not a laser printed form. If it was simply laser printed, the background where the printing occurred would match the background where there wasn't printing.
Obama would not have changed the race to African since he would love to maximize the impact of having his father called a Negro or colored to emphasize it and once again play the race card.
I don’t see how the fact that it was produced on a computer proves anything. That’s probably how the State of Hawaii produces them.
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