Unstamped certificate suggests Obama may not be "natural born" US citizen

Israel Insider ^ | June 24, 2008 | Reuven Koret

[FocusNexus]

The "birth certificate" claimed by the Barack Obama campaign is not certified as authentic and appears to be a photoshopped fake.

Embossed seal of the State of Hawaii absent from the purported "birth certificate" of Barack Obama

Janice Okubo, Director of Communications of the State of Hawaii Department of Health, told Israel Insider: "At this time there are no circumstances in which the State of Hawaii Department of Health would issue a birth certification or certification of live birth only electronically." And, she added, "In the State of Hawaii all certified copies of certificates of live birth have the embossed seal and registrar signature on the back of the document."

So if he were registered as being born in Hawaii, Barack Obama -- because only he or another member of his immediate family could by law request a "Certification of Live Birth" -- must have a certified paper copy, with embossed stamp and seal, or he could request one. But what his campaign has put forward as genuine, according to the senior spokesman in the relevant department of the State of Hawaii, is not in fact a certified copy. It is not valid.

The Obama campaign, however, continues to flaunt the unstamped, unsealed, uncertified document -- notably in very low resolution -- on its "Fight the Smears" website, with campaign officials vowing that it's authentic, sending the image around as "proof" to reporters, and inviting supporters to refer to it as they battle against supposed distortions and calumnies against their candidate. However, the campaign refuses to produce an authentic original birth certificate from the year of Obama's birth, or even a paper version with seal and signature of the "Certification of Live Birth." Nor has it even published an electronic copy with the requisite embossed seal and signature.

[FocusNexus]

Embossed seal of the State of Hawaii absent from the purported "birth certificate" of Barack Obama

[FocusNexus]

No embossed seal.

[goldstategop]

If Obama wasn't born in Hawaii, then where was he born?

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[willgolfforfood]

His mother’s name is “Stanley”?

[expatguy]

Fake but accurate?

[Apple Pan Dowdy]

So, why is Obama being allowed to get away with this?

[expatguy]

time line

[Michael.SF.]

Actually, there are two errors there. They state "maiden Name" but then give a full name. Her actual "maiden name" would only be her surname, before marriage. Thus adding her given name is an error.

Fake but accurate?

[FocusNexus]

His Mother spent a lot of time abroad — he could have been born outside of the US.

The problem is that given the controversy and the implication, why doesn't Obama show his actual birth certificate, putting all questions to rest, or authorize some journalists to request and obtain a certified copy from Hawaii.

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/vital_records.html

“If you are applying for a certificate on behalf of someone else, you must provide an original letter signed by that person authorizing the release of their certificate to you.”

Shades of John Kerry refusing to sign his 180 form.

[RC2]

He better show the real certificate, if there is one, and do it soon. It should be demanded by our government by next week.

[FocusNexus]

According to this, his parents were not married, otherwise the Mother’s last name would also have been listed as Obama.

[SandRat]

Interesting,... if you look at the bottom of the form there is a faint date stamp of Jun 6 2007; albeit in reverse that the purple ink has bled through from the back side. One would think that any date of original or copy would be on the face and if a replacement copy would be so stated on the face.

Just some interesting observations.

[quadrant]

Aren’t birth and death certificates public records in Hawaii?

[SideoutFred]

Guys, stop. He’s a US citizen. This just makes conservatives look foolish.

It’s a copy of his birth certificate, not the original. Just as if you called today to get a copy of yours it would be sent to you all shiny and new. As for the seal, or lack of it, they generally don’t come through with the newer ones as a counter to forgery.

Move on and attack the guy’s Socialist ideas, not whether he is a legitimate American citizen.

[Fox_Mulder77]

This is why Obama’s people are attacking FR. There’s something about his birth certificate he doesn’t want anyone knowing about.

[Mr. Mojo]

Watch out Reuven, or the "razor-sharp political theorist" will be on your tail.

[Jeff Chandler]

He’s a US citizen.

Nobody is questioning his citizenship.

[Ultra Sonic 007]

I saved this image, and zoomed in on where the fields are filled in, and it is obvious that this document was photoshopped. The fields with text are all pasted in as an overlay, which is obvious from the surrounding pixel distortion.

HOWEVER, there is ONE area in this image that is not photoshopped, and which shows the negative image of the text “JUN 6 2007”. It is at the right of the text showing “Date Filled by Registrar.”

It is hard to read, but if you save the pic, zoom in and trace the pixels, it is the reverse of JUN 6 2007

So, what is going on here, Obama Camp? What’s the TRUTH?

[The Lumster]

It’s a copy of his birth certificate, not the original. Just as if you called today to get a copy of yours it would be sent to you all shiny and new

Not true - it would have the embossed seal. This one does not. There is something to this story but I do not expect the MSM to pursue it.

[SideoutFred]

Then what are you questioning