Posted on 06/28/2008 12:20:21 PM PDT by FocusNexus
The "birth certificate" claimed by the Barack Obama campaign is not certified as authentic and appears to be a photoshopped fake.
Embossed seal of the State of Hawaii absent from the purported "birth certificate" of Barack Obama
Janice Okubo, Director of Communications of the State of Hawaii Department of Health, told Israel Insider: "At this time there are no circumstances in which the State of Hawaii Department of Health would issue a birth certification or certification of live birth only electronically." And, she added, "In the State of Hawaii all certified copies of certificates of live birth have the embossed seal and registrar signature on the back of the document."
So if he were registered as being born in Hawaii, Barack Obama -- because only he or another member of his immediate family could by law request a "Certification of Live Birth" -- must have a certified paper copy, with embossed stamp and seal, or he could request one. But what his campaign has put forward as genuine, according to the senior spokesman in the relevant department of the State of Hawaii, is not in fact a certified copy. It is not valid.
The Obama campaign, however, continues to flaunt the unstamped, unsealed, uncertified document -- notably in very low resolution -- on its "Fight the Smears" website, with campaign officials vowing that it's authentic, sending the image around as "proof" to reporters, and inviting supporters to refer to it as they battle against supposed distortions and calumnies against their candidate. However, the campaign refuses to produce an authentic original birth certificate from the year of Obama's birth, or even a paper version with seal and signature of the "Certification of Live Birth." Nor has it even published an electronic copy with the requisite embossed seal and signature.
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This issue is simmering...they spent an hour on it at KFI AM 640 last night in Los Angeles. One of the co hosts ordered a copy of his Hawaii certificate, and there were notable differences than was Obama has produced.
Obama’s mother’s mother is still alive afaik. He just mentioned her in speeches recently as lamenting a bit for Hillary, the grandmother also appears — for four seconds — in a recent video ad, and iirc has donated a couple of thousand to Obama 2008.
Thanks! The “fts” in the address bar stands for “Fight the Smear”.
Obama has already been caught in some "family lore" that was proven false. He will claim that this is what he was brought up to believe, that he had no reason to think otherwise (despite admitted reservations regarding his mother's marriage certificate), and that he shouldn't be punished for the lies of others.
Essentially, he's going to throw himself at "the mercy of the court" of public opinion, and get a pass on Constitutioinal requirements. He may throw in a little race-bating while he's at it, saying that many African-Americans can't trace their true heritage because of slavery, so why should he be kept from attaining the highest office of the land because he can't trace his birth facts?
-PJ
Having said that, I think that looking into 'the way Hawaii does things' is worth pursuing.
All of your scenarios are interesting, but I don't see any being successfully executed after all this time. How could they go from standing by their documentation to "well, we're not sure, for this (any) reason?" From what I'm reading, these questions go way back to his Illinois senate campaign. Did the Keyes campaign do any digging?
But you raise a good point. Obama is sticking to this story. The longer he does, the better. Dig that hole deeper.
That is horrifying.
Do you really think that’s how it will go?
They might even trot out Al Sharpton to explain how genealogy researchers only recently determined how he was the descendent of slaves owned by descendents of Senator Strom Thurmond.
None of this has anything to do with Obama's situation, of course, being the child of a white teenage mother and a polygamist father from Kenya, but it will appeal to his base.
-PJ
Obama was born while his mother was liberating Aushwitz... We should give him the benefit of the doubt.
That's not a half bad speculation of where they go.
I am a lawyer. Although I am a tax lawyer, I have been to the Supreme Court on a Constitutional Issue. But I see the world through the precision of the written word. So I have a lot of difficulty seeing them all the way to your bottom line where he admits he was born in Kenya and then says I get in anyway--we should ignore the specific provision in the Constitution.
But some variation of your bottom line may appear--he has some basis on which to make the claim there is no proof he was born in Kenya; he thinks he was born in Hawaii; that should be good enough.
After looking at all this today, I suspect that people with a greater investment in the outcome than we do have already been further down the path of facts than we end the day. It sounds as though the current attention is devoted to how to deal with the facts they have rather than how to get more facts.
-PJ
It's not an original 1961 BC, and nobody has claimed that it is.
I’m going to print a transparency of the document found on Photo Bucket, then I’m going to print the fake document that is presented as obama’s birth certificate and overlay the tranparency on it.
It may drive me a little crazy until I get the right size but it will be better than going back and forth looking at them.
If anyone knows of quicker way to do this let me know or do it yourself and let us know.
True. But that is what you would expect a Birth Certificate to be. The issue is whether the document is an actual certificate of what the official records show or a fake devised to support the argument Obama was born in Hawaii.
Where it is obvious as I take it to be the case that the posted copy of the Certificate is a Photoshop created fake, it causes you to doubt that is what the official records would show--because if they did, you would just get a real certificate.
I don't view the as of date as significant.
Amen. It's becoming absurd. I don't care what the reason is. I don't care if he's playing "mind games" with his opponents. I don't care if he's hiding something. I don't care if he thinks he's above it, because he isn't. This idiot is running for POTUS, and the only document that he's submitted for mass review as proof of his CONSTITUTIONAL eligibility is questionable at best and fraudulent at worst. Who the hell does he think he is? It should be a very simple matter to produce a valid birth certificate or certified copy of the same, WITHOUT the cert # blacked out and without obvious computer generated print, and then let it be inspected by whoever wants to inspect it. Instead, we get ridiculous mind games that fail to prove an essential requirement to serve as POTUS, except via a document that is riddled with obvious problems of fakery, and we get the typical MSM ignoring of it, because he's "their guy." The notion that inquiring minds should just "let it go" because there are so many other problems with this man, is ludicrous. It's quite possible to focus on all of the things wrong with this candidate, and an inability to offer a valid birth certificate is certainly one of the many problems he has that is worthy of inspection. It is the height of arrogance for this man not to produce a viable birth certificate to validate his quest to hold the highest office in the land. We aren't asking him to invent cold fusion, but to produce a document that every citizen is required to produce for the most mundane of things. As long as this marxist turd keeps playing games, he deserves to be called out on it daily, regardless of the reasons that he's playing this the game in the first place.
Talking about all the other stuff that is wrong with this man isn't going to get the MSM to suddenly start admitting all the troubling backround information on him. I think it's great that private citizens are subverting the media monopoly. The MSM has been subverting this nation long enough, it's time the tables were turned. Anyone tuning in to alternative media will get the full story on Backtrack Hussatan Obeymao if they choose to seek it out. Digging into this matter certainly isn't going to prevent anyone from finding out what Obama is all about if they want to look for answers. If they don't want to look for answers, they aren't going to find out all the problems with his candidacy anyway because the MSM sure as hell isn't going to clue them on in anything.
If he's playing games for the sheer sake of playing games, and later produces an authentic BC, then he can explain to the masses why he chose to play childish games with it in the first place. Something stinks to high heaven about this, whether he eventually produces an authentic BC or not.
“Bet McCain goes down too on the natural born issue.”
John McCain is unquestionably a natural born citizen of the USA. And if that’s ever challenged, there are at least 5 votes on the U.S. Supreme Court that will back me up!
-PJ
And there you have it. Okubo can't "even say beyond a doubt what the image on the site represents" because she is not allowed access to Barack Obama's personal records. State law prohibits it.
If her sole intent in granting the interview was to say that electronic copies cannot be verified, fine. But the reason? Because they don't have proper certification. Okay.
Obama needs to hold a presser and pass the correct BC around to all reporters in the room. At this point I don't think I'd believe a government agent who says it's proper.
“Guys, stop. He’s a US citizen.”
What’s the proof of that?
Did you notice the blank certificate also has the phrase “date filed”?
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