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THE BRIDGE: Black Men Hate Black Women
EURWEB ^ | 07.01.2008 | Darryl James

Posted on 07/02/2008 1:08:52 PM PDT by Coffee200am

*Now that I have your attention, you have to know that the title is far from the truth.

At least it is for any sane person, but not for a growing number of Black women who are now using the R. Kelly acquittal to bolster their claim that Black men hate Black women.

Before I deal with that, let me tell you a story.

It was the mid-nineties and I was hanging out with Jermaine Dupri at the Santa Monica airport in California, where R & B group Jagged Edge was filming one of their videos.

It was Summertime and the honeys were out in big numbers--legs, breasts and butt cleavage on display for all to see.

These honeys were in line to be chosen for participation in the Jagged Edge video and what happened next stayed with me for a while.

Jermaine pointed to the line and said: “DJ, watch this, man.”

I watched as the young Black women in the line foisted breasts, hiked up skirts and exposed as much flesh as possible the closer they got to the front of the line.

I asked Jermaine if this was usual and he shook his head and replied: “It’s like this all the time.”

Over the years, I learned that such is the behavior of the so-called “Video Hoes,” who are painted by some as strong independent women and by others as victims of sexism.

While I always have problems with such labels as “Video Hoes,” I have an even bigger problem with blaming their behavior on sexism. Particularly knowing that their avocation is an unpaid one.

I have yet an even bigger problem when Black women pretend that the existence of “Video Hoes” is only at the behest of the Black men who make the music. It leaves so many people out of the loop.

It leaves out parents, educators, the media and of course, the women themselves who participate in the degradation of their own image and standing in society.

It also ignores the dichotomy of public opinion regarding music videos, music and sexism, which frankly draws a line down the middle of Black womanhood. Some Black women celebrate the sexual imagery in entertainment, while others decry it and blame it solely on Black men.

But, if Black women can not reach a consensus about crucial issues including sexism and misogyny, then how can anyone expect a consensus from Black men, particularly if they are only watching?

I guess I could have put the cape on and flew to the rescue of those poor “victims” at the Jagged Edge video, but anyone with half a brain knows that none of those women would have come with me to safety. In fact, I would have been laughed at and cursed out and possibly even assaulted.

So why do some Black women continue to blame Black men for any and everything that happens to any of them?

And why do some Black women claim that because Black women are subject to sexist views and sexist behavior it is only because Black men are failing to protect them or because Black men actually hate Black women?

Simple: Because it is the path of least resistance since anyone can say anything about Black men and very few will come to their defense.

I mean, really, we must ask ourselves: Has it been open season on Black women, or on Black people?

Now, back to R. Kelly.

I tried to stay out of the discussion about whether he was the man in the video and whether the young girl was a victim and whether he should be jailed, because, for me, the man deserved a trial before being convicted and punished.

Some people compare it to the OJ Simpson case and claim that African Americans don’t care if a Black person is guilty or not—they just want to see them go free.

That’s asinine.

And it’s also a damned lie.

African Americans are not so unsophisticated that they just want any famous Black person to go free simply because they are famous. In fact, it’s quite the opposite.

Black people who cheered for OJ did so because the “evidence” was not evidence at all. They cheered for his acquittal because whites with the same level of evidence had been acquitted. In fact, most Black people don’t really care about OJ, because they know he’s an idiot.

It’s just that we understand the justice system and if “they” can get off, so should we.

For example, there was and still is no moral outrage over filmmaker Roman Polanski, who admitted to raping an underage girl and then fled the country to evade prosecution. There are no extradition efforts and no outrage from women who want his art boycotted and/or to use him as an icon for the sexual abuse of women. Further, he was given a standing ovation at the Academy Awards a few years ago.

The people who cheered for R. Kelly understood that no matter how much people became emotionally involved, he could not be convicted simply because people wanted him to be convicted.

The tape was not evidence enough, as demonstrated in many cases involving police brutality caught on tape.

And the witnesses, including the alleged victim who swore she was not the person on the tape and the woman who stole from Kelly and admitted to extortion were not enough.

For all the crowing about Black men not protecting Black women, this case shows clearly that apparently many Black women aren’t willing to protect themselves, as evidenced by the cheering of Black women over Kelly’s acquittal.

Sad.

What is also sad and very confusing is that in light of Black women’s failure to stand up for Black women, groups of Black women are still willing to give too much focus to chiding Black men about standing up for Black women.

WhatAboutOurDaughters.com, a site run by Black women, admitted that during the R. Kelly trial, it was Black women and not Black men who acted the most disturbing in their defense of R. Kelly.

Yet, the site has posted and is promoting a petition targeting Black men and their need to stand up for Black women by battling the exploitation of their daughters, sisters and wives.

Something is wrong with that. Where is the petition for Black women to stand up, or the petition for Black women to stop participating in their own exploitation?

It’s not that I am opposed to the protection of Black women. I just think it is a mistake to lay the burden of protection solely at the feet of Black men.

I also think it is a grave mistake to link the defense of Black women and girls to the allegedly unjust acquittal of one man. Leave R. Kelly alone, because there is nothing there.

We would do better to launch unified defense campaigns of Black women and girls, simply because it is the right thing to do. We should do so because we love and cherish Black women and girls and they should be defended.

It’s said that some people think we need an icon.

Why not go after all the media outlets that facilitate the soft porn of Black women?

Why not go after—and I know this won’t be popular—the very Black women who participate in and facilitate the destruction of Black women and girls?

And while we’re at it, why not go after the Black women who participate in and facilitate the destruction of Black men and boys?

Really—who’s hating whom?

Next Week: Black Women Hate Black Men

Darryl James is an award-winning author of the forthcoming powerful anthology “Notes From The Edge.” Discounted Autographed and Numbered Pre-Release copies can be ordered at www.darryljames.com. He released his first mini-movie, “Crack,” and this year, will release his first full-length documentary. View previous installments of this column at www.bridgecolumn.proboards36.com. Reach James at djames@theblackgendergap.com


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To: brwnsuga

Exactly


51 posted on 07/02/2008 2:29:24 PM PDT by NYC Republican (John McCain- Snatching Defeat from the Jaws of Victory...Doesn't have the stomach or heart to fight.)
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To: brwnsuga

It’s always 90%... For Gore, Kerry, all Libs... It’ll be closer to 98% this time.


52 posted on 07/02/2008 2:30:17 PM PDT by NYC Republican (John McCain- Snatching Defeat from the Jaws of Victory...Doesn't have the stomach or heart to fight.)
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To: brwnsuga

I concur with your analysis.
Looking back as a white kid growing up in the Fifties and Sixties,I can recall when the news would anounce the acquital of a killer of a civil rights worker in the South.Do you think ANY white adult ever got indignant at that injustice?No,not in my redneck of the woods,thats for sure.
I also blame LAPD and the Garcetti for blowing a sure conviction.Marcia Clark was a disaster and the Mark Fuhrman fiasco doomed it for good.


53 posted on 07/02/2008 2:31:12 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: IYAS9YAS

I am not voting for Obama at all. I am merely stating that I am proud that he could have the chance to be elected. While I am Conservative, I am still black. I cannot separate myself from that or what it means. One’s experiences in this country is shaped by many things, color being one of them. If you are one of those “color blind” people, then G-d bless you. Most of us are not. I DO see color and what it means, but I don’t think it is a bad thing to acknowledge the differences of our citizens. Its what makes us great. I am pro-life, pro-gun rights, pro-off shore drilling and Obama is anti- all of that. It’s not that I care what his color is, but what this means for us as a country. It is evidence of how far we’ve come.


54 posted on 07/02/2008 2:33:23 PM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Sexy Conservative!!!)
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To: Jack Black

Yes,and its about time these killers were federally prosecuted for the crimes they got away with years ago.Looks like Georgia is getting ready to reopen the 1946 Moore lynching.


55 posted on 07/02/2008 2:35:16 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: brwnsuga
We (black folk) know O.J. got away with murder. I hate when my folk support the wrong people for the wrong reasons.

The sad thing is that I'm sure there are any number of weaker cases against black men that we could ALL (well, maybe most) rally behind, if they were brought to public attention.

The good thing is that they aren't anonymous psycho killers being let go to roam the streets. I'm unlikely to date OJ, and equally unlikely to travel in R. Kelly's circles.

But the actions that are being supported by this kind of amnesty...

56 posted on 07/02/2008 2:38:06 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: cherry

We have been married going on 20 years and have two beautiful talented children. It hasn’t always been easy, there are still some knuckleheads out there (black and white) but we are still making it. Thank G-d for His Grace.


57 posted on 07/02/2008 2:39:17 PM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Sexy Conservative!!!)
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To: L98Fiero

No,society has not”moved beyond all that”.Lots of these old angers just fester and marinate until the appropriate time when they explode with vehemence.
Here is the irony of the whole OJ phenomenon-many blacks,especially black women,were angered by his obvious attraction to white blonde females.He was seen as a joke in many quarters of the black community.Yet when he got into trouble he had no problem playing the race card!
Personally,I felt little emotion at the acquital.Reason-I was just not too sympathetic toward the whole Brown-Simpson crowd who seemed like a bunch of drug taking,hedonistic selfish boors.Not that I believe that justifies murder but violating basic moral principles can often lead people to do things once considered outside the bounds of civilized behavior.


58 posted on 07/02/2008 2:44:51 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: brwnsuga
Interesting definition of 'black'. Osamabama, that statist empty-suit sock-puppet, is by heritage 50% 'white', 43% Arab, and 6% 'black'.

Also, every black guy I know is well-known for whining about the price of arugola. (that was sarcasm, for those in Rio Linda...)

59 posted on 07/02/2008 2:45:47 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: SAJ

Isn’t an Arab of Semitic heritage? I thought his father was African.


61 posted on 07/02/2008 2:50:30 PM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Sexy Conservative!!!)
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To: Coffee200am
The author is an idiot

Black people who cheered for OJ did so because the “evidence” was not evidence at all

There's a lot of white people on death row with a lot less evidence than the prosecution had in the OJ trial. OJ was found innocent because of the defense playing the race card. The jury never even heard the evidence.

62 posted on 07/02/2008 2:50:30 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: John Williams

And Maryland, the big lib state, had a chance to elect a black governor last election and did not.


63 posted on 07/02/2008 2:53:36 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Congress in session, the White House occupied - Your freedom, liberty and rights are in jeopardy.)
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To: RetiredArmy

Because Steele was a REPUBLICAN,thats why he was defeated,not cause he was black.
Had he fallen in line with the liberal agenda or even played moderate Democrat,he would have been elected.


64 posted on 07/02/2008 2:57:55 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: Riverman94610

The liberals still had a chance to vote for him. What was the black vote break down for Steele?


65 posted on 07/02/2008 2:59:27 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Congress in session, the White House occupied - Your freedom, liberty and rights are in jeopardy.)
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To: SAJ
Osamabama, that statist empty-suit sock-puppet, is by heritage 50% 'white', 43% Arab, and 6% 'black'.

Lots of people on FR keep tossing around the statistic that Obama is 7/16 Arab, but exactly what is the evidence for this? Does it even make sense, given the tribal background and appearance of his father, that the father could possibly have been 7/8 Arab?

67 posted on 07/02/2008 3:05:44 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: brwnsuga
Arabs are, according to the traditional anthropological classifications, Semites. I try very hard not to get bound up in what are at bottom arbitrary terms.

His father, evidently according to Kenyan law, is an Arab.

68 posted on 07/02/2008 3:06:58 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: John Williams

OJ grew up in the housing projects of Potrero Hill and went to Galileo High,a very integrated school at the time.
I grew up in and around San Francisco.I hate to generalize but many black men in San Francisco tend to gravitate toward white women or see them as the ideal phenotype.Even in the early Sixties,you would see numerous black male-white female couples.I wonder if this social tendency influenced OJ.


69 posted on 07/02/2008 3:07:23 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: SAJ

Its true there are many black Arabs.That part of the world has a long history of trade and slave raiding by Arabs since the Eighth Century.
Yet Obama’s dad certainly doesn’t LOOK like a traditional Arab.Do you say that because he was a Muslim?


70 posted on 07/02/2008 3:09:34 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: John Williams

Its kind of a running joke among black women that the brothers will hit on a white woman,”Eight to Eighty,blind,crippled or crazy”.
Not sure it THATS so but you do see a lot of black men with VERY rotund white women.
Of course,beauty standards for many black men include”healthy,big boned”women so maybe thats understandable.


72 posted on 07/02/2008 3:22:02 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: Riverman94610
I say that because an Israeli source, posted right here on FR, described an academic who did evidently quite a detailed study of Baraka Obama Sr. and Kenyan law, and came up with those results.

Within the last 10 days. I've searched back to 31 July so far, haven't found it yet. It's there, never fear.

73 posted on 07/02/2008 3:23:36 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: wideminded

See post 73.


74 posted on 07/02/2008 3:24:23 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: SAJ

Obama has never acknowledged any Arab background.I don’t think its anything that would derail his Presidential ambitions,however or influence many votes.
He had no choice who his parents were.


75 posted on 07/02/2008 3:28:12 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: Coffee200am
Some people compare it to the OJ Simpson case and claim that African Americans don't care if a Black person is guilty or not—they just want to see them go free.

That's asinine.

And it's also a damned lie.

Maybe, but I worked with several black women who were certain that he did it the night it happened. They were equally sure that the "ho" deserved it.

76 posted on 07/02/2008 3:40:12 PM PDT by Theophilus (Nothing can make Americans safer than to stop aborting them.)
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To: LottieDah
There are too many black men who have no respect for black women and women in general. At least 75% cheat on the women they have children with but refuse to marry. Having children out of wedlock and hooking up with as many women as possible has become a big part of black male culture. I use to shake my head wondering how the hell they were able to keep their wife or baby's momma from finding out. I found out that many of the women were very ignorant or plain old stupid.
77 posted on 07/02/2008 4:02:13 PM PDT by peeps36 ( Al Gore Is A Big Fat Lying Hypocrite. He Pollutes The Air By Opening His Big Mouth)
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To: peeps36

Don’t fool yourself-those women know whats happening.They just are under the illusion that”having a man”is worth putting up with the cheating.
Black women collaborate in their own oppression since most have such low self esteem.And forget about all those”tough bad ass sistas”nonsense.Its all a front to hide a lot of hurt and pain.


78 posted on 07/02/2008 4:09:36 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: Riverman94610

“Personally,I felt little emotion at the acquital.”

Me either. I was surprised but that’s about it.

“No,society has not”moved beyond all that”.Lots of these old angers just fester and marinate until the appropriate time when they explode with vehemence.”

Seems extremely one-sided. Besides, what “old angers” does anyone under the age of 60 really have? A few white guys got away with murder 50 years ago? When can we expect these “old angers” to subside? Ever?

I’m sorry but that’s just a lame excuse for acting in a hateful manner.


79 posted on 07/02/2008 4:39:29 PM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: L98Fiero

I think its something twisted in the human condition that keeps these age old racial animosities alive.
For example,in my forty years on and off working in urban schools,I have seen way more INTRA racial hate and anger than the other way around.Black kids will pound the crap out of each other,harass black females and call each other the worst kind of names but as soon as a Mexican or Asian does something against a black kid,its on-the blacks all unite against “the other”.
I went to all white schools.Most white kids talked bad about”the niggers”but would run away real fast if they saw four or more blacks together.The big prejudice back then was against Jews.Lots of the Italian and Irish kids didn’t think much of the”kikes”.Jealousy in my opinion.The Jewish kids dominated the honor rolls in the same ways Asian kids do today.


80 posted on 07/02/2008 4:55:54 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: Riverman94610
Neither did any of us. Most of us managed not to turn into state socialist sockpuppets, though, now didn't we?

His plurality of Muslim parentage simply introduces another strong factor of doubt about his veracity. Taqqiyah, anyone?

81 posted on 07/02/2008 5:24:37 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: SAJ

Well,then we need to attack Obama for his pro socialist POLITICS then,not his alleged ethnicity.
Its a cheap shot and one could ask why we have 150,000 of our best men and women over in Iraq now protecting a bunch of ARAB MUSLIMS!


82 posted on 07/02/2008 5:42:23 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: Riverman94610
You seem to be one who believes that the civilised world is NOT at war with Islam.

Do tell me how that works out for you...in, say, 10 years' time.

Iraq is and always has been about geopolitical strategy regarding Iran and its ultimate political isolation and/or the destruction of its theocracy. The fact that the people in Iraq are Muslims is quite irrelevant to the strategy and the goal. A tactical problem, and a knotty one, certainly, but the Iraqis could just as well be Confucians without affecting for a moment the validity of the strategy.

It's also invariably a policy bonus to kill off a murderous and tyrannical regime, and give ANY people a shot at running their own nation. Who knows, in this case, they might become ''moderate'' Muslims after a time. Or not. If not, nothing lost there, other than unfortunately a lot of our good men and women. If so, enormous rewards portend.

Yes, before you ask, geopolitically I'm quite cynical. Please note that Iraq is NOT a strategy that can be used more than once -- so we'd better get it right the first time. I'd rate it about 50/50 success/failure just now, but I'd rate the expectation (look up the term) considerably higher.

FReegards to you!

83 posted on 07/02/2008 6:18:42 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: SAJ

Lets not wander so far from the original topic.
Whether Obama is one forth,one half or 100% Arab should not even be an issue.
Just his late term abortion position nixes him for me.Not to mention the tax and spend programs he has in store.
Now if he intentionally LIES about his ethnic background,then I think we have cause to be concerned.
Still glad Barack kicked Hillary’s butt,though.I’ll never back down from that one.


84 posted on 07/02/2008 6:35:54 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: Flashman ATC

I am certainly not a psychiatrist.I am just being a truth teller and telling you how it was when I was growing up.
Sad but true that we all make generalizations.Of course not all Italians and Irish were anti Semitic nor were all Jews academic whiz kids.Yet the PATTERN at that time was that you found mostly Jewish kids in honor classes and Auto Shop had the rougher across the tracks Italian and Irish boys.Just the way it was.
I don’t relate to white guilt.If anything,most of my barbs are directed to the black kids I see throwing away their lives daily.And I can tell you this-I say that to their faces and they respect me for it.


86 posted on 07/02/2008 7:39:18 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: Riverman94610
You do not define issues for me, m'friend. Don't even try.

From the earliest days of our Republic, Arabs and Muslims (cut that up however you like) have -- by their own actions -- declared war upon us. Remember the Dey of Algiers? Remember the 'Philadelphia' incident, and Stephen Decatur's frankly quite heroic raid? Remember ''Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute!''

It doesn't sound like it.

Define taqqiyah for me, please, and write a coherent paragraph about that subject and its application to Baraka Hussein Obama, Jr. ('Baraka' is his correct birth name, btw, now conveniently Anglicised ... more or less).

State socialists are invariably my enemy. State socialists who adhere, even incidentally, to the enemies of our Republic for 200+ years are beyond the pale, and beyond despicable.

Don't like that attitude? Tough, er, luck.

Islam has always been spread by the sword and by deliberate deception. Osamabama is simply the latest iteration of this theme. The historically inarguable fact that he is and has been an advocate of infanticide, of statism regarding every point in any private citizen's life, of more and bigger goobermint at ALL turns ... well, these are just separate reasons to loathe him.

87 posted on 07/02/2008 11:26:19 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: SAJ

I certainly don’t endorse Islam or any other fascist religion like it.
Yet I think you are barking up the wrong tree when thats your main weapon to attack Obama with.It will seem small minded and bigoted to most voters and will invariably create a sympathy backlash in his favor.


89 posted on 07/03/2008 9:12:42 AM PDT by Riverman94610
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