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How can Catholics for Obama rationalize their support for the pro-choice candidate?
Pajamas Media ^ | July 13, 2008 | by Elizabeth Scalia

Posted on 07/13/2008 1:24:13 PM PDT by library user

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1 posted on 07/13/2008 1:24:14 PM PDT by library user
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To: NYer; Salvation

ping.


2 posted on 07/13/2008 1:24:30 PM PDT by library user (There's no sandwich like prawn sandwich.)
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**How can Catholics for Obama rationalize their support for the pro-choice candidate?**

They can't!

enter the Table of Contents of the Catechism of the Catholic Church here

1: CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2271  (618 bytes )  preview document matches
1 Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable. Direct abortion,
URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2271.htm
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2: CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2272  (580 bytes )  preview document matches
2 Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense. The Church attaches the canonical penalty of excommunication to this crime against human life. "A
URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2272.htm
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3: CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2322  (290 bytes )  preview document matches
2 From its conception, the child has the right to life. Direct abortion, that is, abortion willed as an end or as a means, is a "criminal" practice (GS 27 § 3),
URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2322.htm
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4: CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2274  (554 bytes )  preview document matches
gravely opposed to the moral law when this is done with the thought of possibly inducing an abortion, depending upon the results: a diagnosis must not be the equivalent
URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2274.htm

3 posted on 07/13/2008 1:28:55 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Notice the Catechism about a grave sin and excommunication. Those Catholics who support Obama are basically excommunicating themselves.


4 posted on 07/13/2008 1:30:11 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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5 posted on 07/13/2008 1:30:45 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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There is NO WAY that Catholics can support Obama.

How can Catholics for Obama rationalize their support for the pro-choice candidate?
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Barack Obama Slams John McCain For Opposing Abortion, Activist Judges

Catholics and Obama
COMMENTARY: Quandry for Catholics At Election Time
The Latest Refinement (Obama on Abortion)
CNN Runs Biased News Story Covering Up Barack Obama’s Pro-Abortion Record
Jill Stanek: Obama's biggest lie about supporting infanticide
The Battle for Catholic Voters

New Report Indicates Voters Most Interested in Barack Obama’s Position on Abortion
Deal Hudson: Obama and Infanticide?
Ad asks Obama: ‘If fatherhood begins at conception, when does life begin?’
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Catholics should not vote for Obama
Catholic Caucus: It is a sin to vote/support Obama/DNC [abortion]

More Catholics leaning towards Democrats, poll reports (really not Catholics)
The Catholic-Obama Problem (Pope Benedict XVI instructs Catholics about pro-abortion candidates)
Obama's Abortion Bombshell: Unrestricted Abortion....
NARAL Catholics Line Up for Obama
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McCain Meets Privately with Fr. Pavone - Says Constitutional Right to Life Applies to Unborn
Faithful Citizenship: “Catholic Vote” is very sought after
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Catholic League: Where's Obama's 'Catholic Advisory Council'? [Not to be found!]
Right-wing Christians beginning to lean left (Misleading headline)

Catholics Debate Obama Vote
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DOUG KMIEC: Catholic Reasons for Hope in the General Election
EDITORIAL: Why This Catholic Dreads the Campaign
The Catholic-Obama Problem (Pope Benedict XVI instructs Catholics about pro-abortion candidates)
Thoughts On ‘Roman Catholics For Obama’

How Obama's Catholics Will Dodge the Infanticide Question
Catholic Pro-Life Leader Feuds With Barack Obama's "Catholic" Backers
McCain and the Pope: McCain cannot win in November without the Catholic vote (Reagan re-visited?)
Catholics Cannot Vote for Pols Who Support Abortion, Except for Morally Grave Reasons: KY Bishops

6 posted on 07/13/2008 1:34:02 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Powerful graphic. Thanks.


7 posted on 07/13/2008 1:35:56 PM PDT by library user (There's no sandwich like prawn sandwich.)
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To: library user

Seems to me there are people who can rationalize anything.


8 posted on 07/13/2008 1:35:59 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: Salvation

Barf Alert

Catholics who are pro-abortion feel that the Vatican is behind the times. They feel that abortion is a “social justice” issue, in that people shouldn’t be “punished” with a child if they don’t want one. They think Jesus would approve of abortion for these “social justice” reasons. Truly progressive Catholics feel that abortion would be approved of by God because of the concept of “creation care” - Jesus would not want the planet to be too overpopulated and polluted.


9 posted on 07/13/2008 1:36:03 PM PDT by impimp1
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To: Salvation

Excellent links! Thank you for posting these.


10 posted on 07/13/2008 1:36:38 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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How can Catholics for Obama rationalize their support for the pro-choice candidate?

Easy....They are CINOs.
11 posted on 07/13/2008 1:37:29 PM PDT by rottndog (Freedom IS NOT FREE...Let us NEVER FORGET those that have paid the higest price for it!)
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bingo!!!

I’m a practicing Catholic and while abortion has never been a campaign changing issue for me in elections, hussien obama’s stance FOR live birth abortions, FOR partial birth abortion and FOR fedreally funded abortion should scare the life out of any anti-abortion voter...

and PLEASE!!!! hussien IS NOT PRO CHOICE- he is PRO ABORTION!!!


12 posted on 07/13/2008 1:41:29 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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CINOs. LOL!


13 posted on 07/13/2008 1:42:20 PM PDT by library user (There's no sandwich like prawn sandwich.)
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Simple.

They're CINOs.

Catholics in Name Only.

14 posted on 07/13/2008 1:44:44 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Public policy should never become the captive of a scientific-technological elite. -- Ike Eisenhower)
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How can Catholics for Obama rationalize their support for the pro-choice candidate?

Because they are just nominal Catholics, and their religion really doesn't mean anything to them anyway.

15 posted on 07/13/2008 1:45:47 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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The Bible isn’t a like the Constitution is (or as they claim it to be), a living document. It doesn’t change with “the times”.


16 posted on 07/13/2008 1:50:22 PM PDT by autumnraine
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In other words, I want to get into heaven, but I want to get in doing whatever I please.


17 posted on 07/13/2008 1:50:53 PM PDT by autumnraine
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“I knew Carter was wrong in his views about Roe and soft toward permissive abortion. But even as a priest, I justified working for him because…he was right on so many more of the “Catholic” issues than his opponent seemed to be. The moral calculus looked easy.”

This is the argument of a weak intellect and an even weaker soul. It is not in any way Catholic.


18 posted on 07/13/2008 1:53:28 PM PDT by wiley
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A good question but I don’t think it’s particularly relevant to just Obama. A whole array of Catholic politicians who support abortion have been hugely popular among their constituents - Kerry, Kennedy, Durbin, etc. What to me is most egregious is those who have supported “late term” abortions which are clearly nothing other than infanticide. The real point is not just how a Catholic but any CHRISTIAN can justify this. I think the probable answer is that liberalism, not Christianity, is their ultimate belief system.


19 posted on 07/13/2008 1:58:25 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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Simple - it is better to murder innocents by the millions than admit any conservative has ever been right about anything. If you think about it, that maxim has been the defining character of the entire left for oh, about 75 years. And counting.
20 posted on 07/13/2008 2:00:12 PM PDT by JasonC
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