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We helped in Iraq - now help us, beg Georgians
Times Online (U.K.) ^ | August 10, 2008 | by Tony Halpin

Posted on 08/10/2008 2:39:43 PM PDT by library user

As a Russian jet bombed fields around his village, Djimali Avago, a Georgian farmer, asked me: “Why won’t America and Nato help us? If they won’t help us now, why did we help them in Iraq?”

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: allies; allygeorgia; geopolitics; georgia; iraq; ossetia; russia; southossetia; troops
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To: All

What do you guys do when you see the bully beating up the kid down the street?

Do you say, well he obviously didn’t act wiseley and walk past?

What happened to the American Spirit that Reagan use to talk about?


21 posted on 08/10/2008 2:55:03 PM PDT by flyfree
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To: MarMema

I think, if you check, President Bush made those remarks after visiting Atlanta.


22 posted on 08/10/2008 2:55:11 PM PDT by Memphis Moe
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To: library user

If we were helping then they’d condemn us for interference.


23 posted on 08/10/2008 2:55:30 PM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama - The corruption hasnÂ’t changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: library user

What we need to do is have a sit-down with Russia, off the record, and tell them everything has to return to the status quo of August 1, 2008. This could be a Munich moment for the West, as the similarities between this and the Sudetenland in 1938 are frighteningly clear. In so many ways Russia is in the same position as Germany was in 1938, and so, unfortunately, is the West with its 1938 counterpart. Germany, by its own admission, would have backed down in 1938 in the face of a strong reaction from the West. Russia, I believe, would react similarly today in the face of a strong reaction (and that reaction does not have to be military, but it does have to be UNITED). The West, aside form some verbal admonishments, will do nothing. And so the story goes. Again.


24 posted on 08/10/2008 2:55:39 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: DoughtyOne

>> in South Odessa.

LOL! LOL!

LOL! LOL!

LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL!


25 posted on 08/10/2008 2:56:09 PM PDT by a_Turk (Temperance, Fortitude, Prudence, Justice)
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To: Lijahsbubbe

” I don’t understand why world leaders didn’t push harder to avoid this.”

Russia has been planning this for quite awhile.


26 posted on 08/10/2008 2:57:17 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Gay State Conservative

“But short of going to war with Russia,what can we do?”

1. Find a line on the map.

2. Bomb it until a large ditch exists.

3. Announce that if a Russian tries to cross that line, bombing will resume.


27 posted on 08/10/2008 2:58:29 PM PDT by Memphis Moe
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To: rbmillerjr
“the govt of Georgia didn’t act wisely”

Hard to say what really happened there but according to some reports Ossetians had been shelling Georgian villages for days before Georgian forces moved in. Also those Russian columns appeared quite fast, surprisingly fast.

28 posted on 08/10/2008 2:58:42 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Jeff Head
"Bush agree to use US Air Force jets to fly the Georgian Iraq based troops back to Georgia and upped the ante some."

You have a source for that? I've seen reports that the Georgian troops will use US "chartered" aircraft, like the ones many of our own troops use for transport to and from the ME.

29 posted on 08/10/2008 2:59:40 PM PDT by blaquebyrd
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To: All

Best to give Georgia some bombers and weapons...help the Georgians whack the Russkies.

The Russkies do not have a good war record after WWII. They are still struggling w Chechnya, so I think the Georgians will eventually turn the Russians back

Also, we need to do everything to arm those non-Islamic nations bordering Russia, so that this doesnt happen to the Baltics.

I just hope that the lack of involvement is not because of the Bush Liberal Globalist mantra of not helping Christian nations while helping Islamics. The USA will look bad if it doesnt help.


30 posted on 08/10/2008 3:00:06 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (It's still COMMUNIST China)
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To: DoughtyOne
"I’ll bet the Times Online has an open channel to all sorts of Georgians."

And The Slimes probably didn't even know, or could have cared less that Georgian soldiers were there until it was reported they were pulling them out.

Afterall, the US went in on their own.

/sarcasm

31 posted on 08/10/2008 3:00:48 PM PDT by mass55th
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To: flyfree

“What happened to the American Spirit that Reagan use to talk about?”

It ended with Reagan.


32 posted on 08/10/2008 3:01:02 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: library user

Aren’t we transporting Georgia’s troops back from Iraq?


33 posted on 08/10/2008 3:01:45 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: ought-six

reading a lot of posts on this forum, I am starting to agree with that statement


34 posted on 08/10/2008 3:02:04 PM PDT by flyfree
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To: fish hawk
If Ronald Reagan was President right now, we would be already over there helping them.

You mean the same Ronald Reagan that got us the hell out of Lebanon after the Embassy bombing?

Look, I'm as big of a Reagan fan as any here, but I think he would have been a bit more pragmatic about this.

35 posted on 08/10/2008 3:02:47 PM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: fish hawk
If Ronald Reagan was President right now....

Like Beirut '83? Great.

37 posted on 08/10/2008 3:03:24 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: library user
Dear Georgia,

It was kind of you to inquire as to the possibility that the United States might help you end your current predicament.

I would like to refer you to the expertise of the following knowledgeable persons: Chiang Kai-shek, The People of North and South Korea, The People of Cuba, The Republic of South Vietnam, Cambodia, The Shaw of Iran, The people of Nicaragua, The Iraqi rebels and Kurds during Desert Storm, and Serbia.

Regards, the Democrat Party USA

Achieving peace through surrender for 63 years.

38 posted on 08/10/2008 3:03:59 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (John McCain, the Manchurian Candidate.)
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To: library user

“Why won’t America and Nato help us?”

For the same reason we didn’t assist Hungary or the Czechs when a thermonuclear military giant invaded them.


39 posted on 08/10/2008 3:04:12 PM PDT by KantianBurke (President Bush, why did you abandon Specialist Ahmed Qusai al-Taei?)
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To: rbmillerjr
um, what would Pat Bucannon say?
40 posted on 08/10/2008 3:05:35 PM PDT by tired1 (responsibility without authority is slavery!)
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