Posted on 08/14/2008 8:54:39 PM PDT by Alter Kaker
Thanks for hanging with us as we all learn to interpret what you have correctly expressed.
Looks like most everybody who commented on this piece (most, not all) started out with a pre-disposed notion based on current social disposition instead of taking the time to assimilate the true meaning of the words.
If we’re to learn anything we’ve got to look for something deeper than a soundbite.
Thank you for challenging the masses and standing for what you believe.
How did you get that Jo doesn’t want to end abortion???
I think you misunderstood the point. I don’t believe it was the writer’s intention to leave abortion legal and kill babies, and I don’t think anyone else got that out of this post.
This is the first time I have read Jo Nuvark’s work, and I had to use my brain a minute, but Jo is dead on. The Supreme Court should have never been in the abortion business in the first place. America is about personal responsibility and that stretches to your own kids, too.
If we train our children we will change the world. If we let the government and the supreme court decide the education, direction and fate of our citizens, then we will fail. Unlike other nations, we were supposed to operate at the hands of a God-fearing citizenry.
That’s been hi-jacked. Maybe for good, but I think you are in the same side of the fight as the rest of the “fan club” you were talking about.
Looks like you agree in principle with Jo.
Sometimes we just have to switch the light on to see the path.
[... The Supreme Court should have never been in the abortion business in the first place. America is about personal responsibility and that stretches to your own kids, too. If we train our children we will change the world.
IF WE TRAIN OUR CHILDREN WE WILL CHANGE THE WORLD!!!
If we let the government and the supreme court decide the education, direction and fate of our citizens, then we will fail. Unlike other nations, we were supposed to operate at the hands of a God-fearing citizenry. That’s been hi-jacked. Maybe for good, but I think you are in the same side of the fight as the rest of the “fan club” you were talking about...]
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If that isn’t what I said, that’s exactly what I meant to say. LOL!
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If we train our children we will change the world!
HGTV is correct. “Change the world. Start at home.”
“That’s why it is just as important to deal with issues on the philosophical merits, to individuals, and not just legal merits.”
True. But there are people who equate law with morality. If it’s legal, they think it’s moral.
“This old ship won’t turn without a moral, Godly rudder. We won’t find that rudder in our courts or in our houses of Government. That moral rudder is in the houses of the people and cannot be legislated from us. So... we are without excuse.”
I agree with that much. At the same time, deceivers hide behind unjust law. Roe v. Wade was judicial legislation. It was incredibly unpopular at the time. 49 states classified abortion as a felony. The courts and the colleges have eroded our nation’s of right and wrong.
Since they got away with that, the courts reached further with Kelo.
More proof of my assertion, posted in various threads on the “Republic” .....
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I believe that McCain was picked by the leftist infested RNC to throw the election and marginalize the American right.
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McCain picking Liberman for Veep will prove this beyond a reasonable doubt.
Thank you for the link. Will read. FRegards ....
McCain is throwing a lot of stuff out there to awaken voter interest and lead various groups to feel more sympathetic toward him. I’m sticking with him unless he actually picks a pro-abort VP.
I remember W going on long walks with Tom Ridge back in 2000. At the end of he day, it was for nothing. Possibly the same this time around.
Comparing MacCain to fighting with "the army you have," would have been as if Rumsfeld had said that we'd hired The Taliban to fight against Al-Qai'da.
MacCain is the consummate Trojan Elephant. If he becomes President, with their having co-opted the conservative movement, the victory of The Left will be close to completion.
Teach the American public about the Judeo-Christian value system. How the Declaration of Independence created by the Founding Fathers summarized the best of these values. That Senator McCain stands for this statement in it’s top level thinking:
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness...”
Many Americans call talking points assigned to political Representatives as ‘issues’. Political parties put themselves into camps based on issues. Keeping track of each candidates there set of ‘issues’ and if they match our own tastes is convoluting the very basic principles of the Judeo-Christian Value System. Politicians running for office often times prey on such ignorance to win elections. You don’t ignore the issues, you remind the American voter that all your positions on the ‘issues’ are based on the Declaration of Independence powerful and simple statement and you base your policy making on such as well. When a candidates running for office do this, then will leaders emerge and provide the wisdom-led governance Americans crave so desperately. Conservatives, stop acting like liberals being dragged into middle road positions on ‘issues’.
I'm 50 and saw this unfold.
Roe made folks think abortion was really ok and the number of abortions since then prove that.
It's not just a case of collapsed morality which although true is a result of Roe rather than causative.
A nation with at least some modicum of morality would not tolerate laws like Roe.
One day folks will look back and view us the way we view local burghers and the Nazis’s rise...”how did they let that happen?”
I agree Jo wants to end abortion but she prefers to leave government out of it but it's obvious they are already in it. That is what started it.
Roe must be overturned or diminished and hopefully hand in hand with a reestablishment of some basic morality at least about killing unborn babies.
“Comparing MacCain to fighting with “the army you have,” would have been as if Rumsfeld had said that we’d hired The Taliban to fight against Al-Qai’da.”
[Trying to smile.]
It will be impossible to argue with you if McCain makes the wrong choice.
McCain’s just giving this lip service. He already has a big enough problem with the base without creating another. I would be shocked if he went there.
No, I had no “kicked in the belly” allegations.
One 13 y/o did tell me her father threw her out the 2nd story window when she refused to abort. She was a sort of a typical teen, in the sense that she seemed given to exaggeration, so I am not sure whether that was the whole truth or not. However, as required, we reported it to CPS.
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Same here. Romney is the bare minimum that I'd accept for a VP on the liberal-conservative scale, though of course I'm not going to root for his selection. He did reach out to conservatives on abortion and even when he was pro-abortion, he still supported restrictions for it. He would still have to go a little ways to totally convince me, but at this point he's much better than the alternative.
But McCain needs a solid pro-life VP pick here, not only would he lose conservatives but the squishy middle won't vote for him anyway.
Hey, why not just put freakin’ RATs in charge of everything?
I am having real problems believing many people posting here are annything other than Democrats.
You qualify. I hope the boss around here cleans the sludge soon.
Don’t know about you, but....FR needs a good enema.
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