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McCain alarms base with abortion comment
Politico ^ | 8/14/2008 | Jonathan Martin

Posted on 08/14/2008 8:54:39 PM PDT by Alter Kaker

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To: GOPGuide

Bump.


21 posted on 08/14/2008 9:11:52 PM PDT by fatima
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To: Alter Kaker
Abortion is clearly not an issue McCain that cares about, and he's not even interested in listening to his base.

Buyer Beware

22 posted on 08/14/2008 9:11:56 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Gordon Greene; Das Outsider

[... If our children are deceived it’s because they
either took advantage of free will, or that we failed
in training them up in the way they should go...]

I didn’t expect my comments to be understood. But I
was wrong.


23 posted on 08/14/2008 9:13:10 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Alter Kaker
“The right-wing is not going anywhere. . . ."

If McCain picks a Ridge or a Giuliani, then THIS right-winger is "not going" . . . to work or donate or recommend or vote for McCain. I will write in Fred Thompson.

24 posted on 08/14/2008 9:13:29 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (GO CUBS GO! RECREATE '08! 1908!)
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To: Alter Kaker

Obama is so bad, I’m considering voting for McCain even though he is an absolute disaster.

But if he chooses a pro-abortion running mate, forget it. I WILL NOT VOTE FOR SUCH A TICKET. Bad enough to have four years or eight years of McCain. Now they want to groom a pro-abort for the next run?

No.


25 posted on 08/14/2008 9:13:54 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: steve86

Kinda like-kills a baby.


26 posted on 08/14/2008 9:14:40 PM PDT by fatima
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To: Jo Nuvark

You’re in a losing battle trying to explain this one. You are exactly right, but it’s hard to fathom because our thinking is so nationalized.

It’s happened incrementally enough that even the most conservative can’t see it. We went from states rights to federal rights in a blink and I’m not sure there’s a way back out to complete personal responsibility.

I do take responsibility for myself, my family, my faith and my children... sounds like you do too.

The best we can do right now is to speak the truth and keep on leading... Your screen name says it all.


27 posted on 08/14/2008 9:15:55 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com)
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To: Jo Nuvark
I’m just saying this post Christian nation has no authority to decide if there is life in the womb.

I might probably have a stroke soon. Are you saying that the Supreme Court of the United States really has no moral authority over just what constitutes a human being? ;)

We’ve lost our way. Now that we are secular, let’s stick to nation management and leave moral instruction for parents.

But with management, we get a managerial class. Wait, we already have one. However, you're right that we should live our lives as Christians in the world, but not of it.

You and I know that there's really only one thing to depend upon.
28 posted on 08/14/2008 9:16:03 PM PDT by Das Outsider (They're here. Deport now. Pay less to Mexico.)
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To: trumandogz

“No Abortion Litmus Test for Vice President means No Abortion Litmus Test For a Supreme Court Justice.”

Very correct, but also, not big news to most of us.


29 posted on 08/14/2008 9:16:18 PM PDT by wastedpotential (McCain says I am an agent of intolerance, he's right - I can't tolerate liberal Republicans!)
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To: newberger

My guess is that McCain is polling in Pennsylvania now to see if Tom Ridge helps him. If it is yes, I think he will go ahead with the pick.

Ridge is going to be on Fox New Sunday with Chris Wallace . . .another screen test to see how he does.

I noticed that Eric Cantor actually loses votes for McCain in Virginia.


30 posted on 08/14/2008 9:16:28 PM PDT by WilliamReading
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To: wastedpotential

There is no way any Supreme Court nominee could get through the Democrat Senate if he announced he was pro-life. He has to keep quiet about it, like Roberts and Alito did.


31 posted on 08/14/2008 9:17:57 PM PDT by WilliamReading
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To: Alter Kaker

This is shocking!

That McCain has a base, that is.


32 posted on 08/14/2008 9:18:36 PM PDT by Joann37
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To: Jo Nuvark; Gordon Greene
I think I like this guy, but not in the contemporary mainstream entertainment media sense. The Lady might have a bit of a problem with that.

Nice to meet you, Mr. Greene.
33 posted on 08/14/2008 9:19:02 PM PDT by Das Outsider (They're here. Deport now. Pay less to Mexico.)
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To: trumandogz

“No Abortion Litmus Test for Vice President means No Abortion Litmus Test For a Supreme Court Justice.”

Excellent point.


34 posted on 08/14/2008 9:19:20 PM PDT by Joann37
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To: Jo Nuvark
I can only speak for myself, but I can't see it that way, anymore than I could see it that way if the federal government decided that euthanasia of the elderly or the handicapped was just peachy, or, looking back, if the federal government had decided in the critical moment that owning another human being was tolerable. At some point, on a very broad scale, morality is the government's business. I don't know just where the line starts,. but there is one. Otherwise, we're on a slippery slope of devaluing human life for all kinds of reasons.

If my choices from here on out are going to be between one liberal and another liberal, on so many issues but especially on that of the right to life for the innocent, I'll have to opt out of politics as a means of attempting to advance my worldview (which in at least certain ways, is all it is), and just turn inward. It's coming to that one day anyway.
35 posted on 08/14/2008 9:20:21 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: Gordon Greene; Das Outsider

Hey Gordon... welcome to Free Republic.

Hey Das, some class just walked into the joint.


36 posted on 08/14/2008 9:21:05 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark

Outstanding post.


37 posted on 08/14/2008 9:21:52 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: Alter Kaker

For McCain, it’s a political, not a moral decision. He needs to win the middle if he is to win the election. He figures he’s got the conservatives in his pocket (just like Obama has the liberals). They are both fighting over the middle undecideds.

In the end, McCain may choose a pro-life VP. But if he chooses a pro-abortion VP, part of the reason will be he thinks he will gain more votes in the middle than he will lose on the right.


38 posted on 08/14/2008 9:21:53 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: Charles Henrickson

Me too, I mean I’ll write in someone-but I won’t vote for anyone who supports the “right” to take innocent life. That’s it, and I think a so-called Republican candidate who has already asked conservatives to swallow so much, has a nerve to push this issue. It will be his bridge too far.


39 posted on 08/14/2008 9:22:28 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: Das Outsider

Gracias, Senor Outsider... (Practicin’ for the reign of the Obamessiah)

And I appreciate the clarification. Glad to be here.


40 posted on 08/14/2008 9:22:54 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com)
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