Posted on 08/22/2008 9:51:22 AM PDT by Diamond
1. when Obama was a second-year state senator, he served on the board of several local education foundations that had supported the councils and chaired the board for the Chicago Annenberg Challenge
2. From the Annenberg website: Annenberg Challenge
....As the largest single gift ever made to public education, the Annenberg Challenge was designed to unite the resources and ideas of those committed to increasing the effectiveness of public schooling. Recognizing that no single gift could improve all schools, the Challenge served as a catalyst to energize and support educational reform efforts across the country....... The Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania has developed such initiatives as FactCheck.org, which aims to increase public knowledge and understanding by monitoring the factual accuracy of political dialogue...
Can you give me a link or something about his adoption by his stepfather? I have not heard this anywhere but the threads here, and have never found an actual source for this claim. But a parent cannot renounce US citizenship for a child under 18.
Don’t really care WHAT he is. The bottom line is either we have a Constitution or we don’t. If we DO, then EVERYBODY needs to play by the same rules. We proles are constantly reminded by these elitist scum who rule us that “Ignorance of the law is no excuse.”
If we no longer have a Constitution, it really matters not WHO sits in the Oval Office.
Hell, NOTHING matters.
Obama isn’t running for anything? Curious me. Why then do these guys like Obama, McCain and others have to deal with Federal Election Laws? Get Federal Matching Funds? Abide by McCain Feingold? Please give me a hand here.
Philip J. Berg is Hillary’s Philadelphia lawyer. This is really getting good. I bet the Clinton’s have been on this since day one and have all the evidence they need.
If Obama holds another citizenship other than the United States, then US citizens should know about it.
It was more a comment of just in case it does....with the way things are going politiccally ion this country, nothing would surprise me at this point.
No person except a natural born citizen,I struck out the part that applied only to the founding generation of 200 years ago. The key term is "natural born" -- which can indeed be hampered by having multiple allegiances at birth, which is the case with Obama even if he had been born on the steps of Independence Hall. He Dad was a Kenyan and never was a US citizen. His father's citizenship passes burdens to the son at birth.or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution,shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.
Others claim that Obama, as an adult, took an oath renouncing his US citizenship in order to gain a Indonesian passport (where he may have held a citizenship through his step-dad Soetoro). There's a number of somewhat credible reports that Obama used his Indonesian passport to travel to Pakistan, and more dubious reports that he also did the Haj -- the Muslim pilgrimage to Mecca on that passport, perhaps via Pakistan.
If so, Obama would have given up his "natural born" rights, if he ever had them, but could have re-acquired his US citizenship by an oath of re-naturalization (if I have understood that re-naturalization aspect correctly).
As far as I have been able to determine, there are NO court precedents about the term "natural born" in regard to the Article II US Constitution requirements I quoted above.
Lots of US citizens hold passports from other countries. I have friends that have both a US passport, and a passport from Israel, Canada, New Zealand, Australia or Ireland (they have a US passport and one from those other countries - more than one friend). The only thing you have to remember is to use the same passport on entering another country and returning to the US, or things can get quite sticky.
obama sat on the board of annenberg w/ ayers, right?
The Constitution doesn't say anything about dual citizenship!
I hear you...but no judge is going to rule on this. They’ll find a way out of it (political question, standing, something).
Suprisingly, most judges don’t like sticking their necks out in controversial issues. Despite the very real judicial activism.
Philip J. Berg is a 911 thruther. He also demanded the disbarment of three Supreme Court justices regarding Bush v. Gore [PDF]. Read his bio.
FactCheck.org was around in the 2004 campaign. Were they allied or run by the Obama campaign then, too? Just because he worked for one of their foundations does not mean they are allied with him, or work for him now.
Pretty much every news junkie on earth knows of Obama's ties to Annenberg. With about 12 seconds of research, you could have, too
FactCheck.org was around in the 2004 campaign. Were they allied or run by the Obama campaign then, too? Just because he worked for one of their foundations does not mean they are allied with him, or work for him now. Most of the items on FactCheck.org favor John McCain anyway.
The Constitution does not explicitly say it but it does imply it with the clause "No Person except a natural born Citizen."
And holding a citizenship from another country other than the United States contradicts the above clause.
However, having a dual citizenship and being president of the United States has not before happened and has not been challenged in court.
You are hung up on adoption. Whether he was adopted or not is irrelevant, as you note in your last sentence. The question is (a) whether he was born in the US, and (b) whether his use of an Indonesian passport to go to Pakistan proves that he was once an Indonesian citizen and precludes him.
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