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Egyptian doctors’ union prohibits transplants between Muslims and Christians
CNA ^ | August 22, 2008

Posted on 08/22/2008 1:27:28 PM PDT by NYer

Cairo, Aug 22, 2008 / 10:42 am (CNA).- The Doctors’ Union of Egypt, led by the “Muslim Brothers,” a extreme faction of Islam, has decided to prohibit the transplant of organs between those who profess the Islamic faith and Christians, generating a series of protests and unrest in both communities.

According to the EFE news agency, a spokesman for the Coptic Church said in response to the decision, “We all have the same Egyptian blood, and if the purpose of the measure is to prohibit the traffic of organs, we reject it because that could occur as well among the faithful of the same religion.”

The spokesman said the union’s decision was “very grave,” since it could lead to other steps such as the prohibition of blood donations between Christians and Muslims or prevent a doctor from examining a patient of a different faith.  “We fear that in the future there will be hospitals for Christians and hospitals for Muslims,” he said.

The director of the union, Hamdi El Sayed, said the new norm aims “to protect poor Muslim from rich Christians who buy their organs and vice versa” and “to prevent any attempt to deceive the infirm and rob them of their organs, especially if this occurs between Christians and Muslims, because in this case it does open the door to a crisis between both communities.”

Abel Moti Bayumi, an expert with the Center for Islamic Studies of Al Azhar, said the norm is “discriminatory, since it violates human rights, the Constitution and national unity.”  “If the union does not annul the decision, there will be more conflicts between Christians and Muslims,” he warned.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: coptic; egypt; healthcare; islam; mohammedanism; muslim
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1 posted on 08/22/2008 1:27:29 PM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 08/22/2008 1:28:17 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: NYer

I wouldn’t accommodate them anyway.


3 posted on 08/22/2008 1:29:55 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: NYer

LOL! Wouldn’t you love to see the look on a Muslim’s face when told the heart valve just implanted in his chest came from a pig?


4 posted on 08/22/2008 1:36:57 PM PDT by Islander7 ("Common sense and common decency are uncommon virtues among America's left.")
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To: Islander7
LOL! Wouldn’t you love to see the look on a Muslim’s face when told the heart valve just implanted in his chest came from a pig?

ROFL!!! Especially if it came from one of these transgenic pigs that turn green in the dark.


5 posted on 08/22/2008 1:40:44 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: NYer

Egyptian Doctor to anxious parent: “I’m sorry, Mohammed, your child is going to die because the only heart we have available is a Christian heart and it is not allowed.”.........


6 posted on 08/22/2008 1:41:47 PM PDT by Red Badger (All that carbon in all that oil and coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back.....)
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To: NYer

I would rather die with little pain than linger on and on with a transplant.

But for those who want the procedure this is just stupid.


7 posted on 08/22/2008 1:42:28 PM PDT by modest proposal (Wouldn't you like to know? No not really.)
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To: NYer

Their loss is our gain.


8 posted on 08/22/2008 1:44:05 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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9 posted on 08/22/2008 1:45:47 PM PDT by Zakeet (Crime wouldn't pay if the government ran it)
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To: Red Badger

That’s close to this situation at 1:58 of episode three
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V2Yuu8_Px0


10 posted on 08/22/2008 1:59:38 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Principalities work through personalities. Member of the Media Cone of Silence.)
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To: modest proposal

“...I would rather die with little pain than linger on and on with a transplant.

But for those who want the procedure this is just stupid...”

A transplant gave my cousin an additional five happy and active years. To each his own...


11 posted on 08/22/2008 2:02:26 PM PDT by Islander7 ("Common sense and common decency are uncommon virtues among America's left.")
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To: NYer

suits me.


12 posted on 08/22/2008 2:02:38 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: Islander7

Well I have asked god not to put me in that situation where I had to decide ;)

I would probably be tempted to take the transplant against my better judgment.


13 posted on 08/22/2008 2:07:11 PM PDT by modest proposal (Wouldn't you like to know? No not really.)
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To: modest proposal

Yeah, me too! I don’t do pain very well. Hope to die in my sleep.


14 posted on 08/22/2008 2:12:51 PM PDT by Islander7 ("Common sense and common decency are uncommon virtues among America's left.")
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To: NYer

Another giant step back to the 7th Century.


15 posted on 08/22/2008 2:25:45 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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Reminds me of the Jim Crow laws in the Old South requiring segregation of blood for transfusion. “Gawd forbid Grannie would git blood from a nigra.” /sarc


16 posted on 08/22/2008 2:28:29 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (Exotic hunting trip $4000; New shotgun $1800; Bagging endangered species - PRICELESS!)
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To: NYer

You fellas get an “Does not get along with others,” on your Diversity report card.


17 posted on 08/22/2008 3:06:48 PM PDT by Linden1209
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To: mass55th

Amen!


18 posted on 08/22/2008 5:55:21 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: NYer

we have got to influence pharoanism back in Egypt — in the early part of the 20th century, Egyptian Muslims were quick to describe themselves as Egyptians, not Arabs, as a people with a separate culture (like the Iranis), but this was subverted durign Nasser and now they have a pan-Arab ideology which is leading to all of this


19 posted on 08/23/2008 3:09:53 AM PDT by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: Cronos; Kolokotronis
we have got to influence pharoanism back in Egypt

This is carefully preserved by the Coptic monks. If you have not yet read this book, both Kolokotronis and I highly recommend it. You will be humbled yet amazed by the depth of faith and tradition of these semitic religious.

FROM PUBLISHERS WEEKLY:

As a young monk and anthropology student, Gruber impulsively selected his dissertation topic contemporary Coptic monasteries after leafing through a National Geographic article on the Nile. The Copts, whose ancestors go back to the time of the Pharaohs, today comprise about 10% of Egypt's population; most practice an ancient form of Christianity that is distinct from Eastern Orthodoxy, Roman Catholicism and Protestantism. Coptic monasteries in the Sahara desert became the topic of Gruber's year-long field study and a lifelong focus of personal and professional interest. More than a decade after his year in the desert, he began consulting his notes, letters, interviews and memories in order to create this memoir, whose form is part spiritual journal, part travelogue. It does not entirely succeed in either category. As a spiritual journal, it is distressingly exterior: Gruber reproduces long theological conversations with fellow monks, supplies interesting facts about liturgy and monastic daily life and composes formal prayers, but gives little sense of the interior struggles he must have endured if the year was as transformational as he claims. As a travelogue, his account needs updating; the events depicted took place in 1986-1987, and Gruber nowhere ties them to current Middle Eastern realities. Nevertheless, he tells good stories, like the one about the miracle he inadvertently performed while waiting for a Marian apparition. And who could forget the singing octogenarian who hiked up a mountain with him the week the mercury hit 130 and the thermometers exploded?

AMAZON.COM

This book is an absolute treasure you will read over and over again.

20 posted on 08/23/2008 5:13:36 AM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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