Posted on 08/22/2008 9:45:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
If Joe Biden is indeed Barack Obama's pick for running mate, you can bet John McCain's campaign will go through the primary campaign, hunting for Biden quotes that make Obama look bad. That is fair game.
But having spent a little time reviewing Biden's primary run, I've been struck by how cautious Biden was in his statements. Biden talked constantly about the importance of experience--and the fact that he had the most of it. It was the centerpiece of his campaign. But, for the most part, he couched those arguments in general terms. He was usually comparing himself to the entire field of Democrats, not just one rival. And even on those occasions where he did talk about Obama, he did so with surprising nuance.
Take, for example, this quote that just appeared in my inbox. It's from an interview conducted a year ago by Seth Gitell, a veteran journalist and friend who now writes for the New York Sun. The material didn't appear as part of the original article, but he's just published it on his website:
You know hes a very smart guy. I cant speak for me. But I know for me that it was a learning experience. I worked very hard. Im sure hes working very hard too. Ive watched seven presidents, and Ive watched presidents who have come to office who havent thought through some of the areas that theytve never worked in, for example foreign policy. I watched several presidents come in and theyre smart as the devil and they get here and unless you already know when you get here exactly what your foreign policy is, its awful hard to hit the ground running and not to make serious mistakes the first couple of years. Im not saying that senator obama is where I was [when elected to the senate at age 29]. I was younger than he was when he got to the Senate. But I do think, I acknowledge that experience is not the issue, its whether your experience has been good or bad. Somebody with 34 years of bad experience isnt perfectly qualified to be president, someone with 34 years of good experience that makes a big difference. So, again, I know its kindo f difficult to master, its kind of difficult to feel sure-footed in a lot of areas that you havent spent a long of time dealing with.
As these sorts of quotes go, it's relatively mild. Biden doesn't actually say Obama lacks the experience to be president. In fact, he explicitly leaves open the possibility that Obama is ready for office.
I know of at least one more Biden quote along these lines, referenced here in this August, 2007 debate: "I think he can be ready, but right now I don't believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training." Again, as campaign criticisms go, it isn't that awful. Biden can always say a lot has happened in the year since he said that. (He got to know Obama better, etc.)
Of course, there may be other, more damning statements out there. But if this is as bad as it gets--and if, again, Biden is the nominee--I don't think Biden's past rhetoric will pose much of a poiltical problem. (And, for the record, I don't think it should. Obama's lack of experience in foreign policy isn't ideal, but the judgment he's shown--combined with the intellect--makes me think he's up for the job. It seems perfectly reasonable to me that Biden has come to the same conclusion.)
Update: Just to clarify, it's obviously not a good thing that these quotes are out there. I'm just saying they could be much, much worse, given that Biden and Obama were rivals for the presidency just a few months ago.
I think this Biden quote is going to be haunting them until the election and beyond. Fortunately, BO and the Rats made a rather poor choice for VP. Is this all a head fake for "She who shall not be named?"
There is little difference, Biden is a disgusting liberal, he just talks so much he hides behind moderate BS. We better snap out of thinking Biden is good on foreign policy or anything else. As a conservative I have always despised Biden. We are talking Delaware here folks. Solid Blue.
I guess this means Delaware’s 3 electoral votes are no longer in play?
Been wrong before, but there's something else churning here in my opinion.
Cheers,
Lloyd
Because Biden said that BHO was articulate, bright, and clean!
Very nice graphic...
If IRC, Biden actually said: "Obama is the first African American who is articulate, bright, and clean. What an outright insult to other blacks.
If I were any African American I would be furious over Biden's statement and more so by Obama's choice of him for VP. If I were of the black race, I would smack Obama on the side of the head for promoting that he is "black" and remind all black voters that Obama is 50% whitey...and cannot be trusted to represent them at all. Obama played the race card, for sure, but he also ignored the white race card that is an equal part of his deck and his heritage.
The ambiguous, even complimentary, remarks about Obama by Biden in the Democratic primaries are hardly surprising since Biden knew that he surely would not be selected to be the candidate for POTUS - but that he, Biden, had a possibility being selected for VP candidate.
Biden’s remarks on Hillary were probably even better.
''My intent was not to deceive anyone...For if it were, I would not have been so blatant.''Dionne also provides a sentence which Biden "lifted."''if I had intended to cheat, would I have been so stupid?''
''I value my word above all else...This is a fact which is known to all those who are or have been acquainted with my character.''
''The trend of judicial opinion in various jurisdictions has been that the breach of an implied warranty of fitness is actionable without privity, because it is a tortious wrong upon which suit may be brought by a non-contracting party.''
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