Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Flashback: Biden on Obama, Experience
The New Republic ^ | August 22, 2008 | Jonathan Cohn

Posted on 08/22/2008 9:45:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

If Joe Biden is indeed Barack Obama's pick for running mate, you can bet John McCain's campaign will go through the primary campaign, hunting for Biden quotes that make Obama look bad. That is fair game.

But having spent a little time reviewing Biden's primary run, I've been struck by how cautious Biden was in his statements. Biden talked constantly about the importance of experience--and the fact that he had the most of it. It was the centerpiece of his campaign. But, for the most part, he couched those arguments in general terms. He was usually comparing himself to the entire field of Democrats, not just one rival. And even on those occasions where he did talk about Obama, he did so with surprising nuance.

Take, for example, this quote that just appeared in my inbox. It's from an interview conducted a year ago by Seth Gitell, a veteran journalist and friend who now writes for the New York Sun. The material didn't appear as part of the original article, but he's just published it on his website:

You know he’s a very smart guy. I can’t speak for me. But I know for me that it was a learning experience. I worked very hard. I’m sure he’s working very hard too. I’ve watched seven presidents, and I’ve watched presidents who have come to office who haven’t thought through some of the areas that theyt’ve never worked in, for example foreign policy. I watched several presidents come in and they’re smart as the devil and they get here and unless you already know when you get here exactly what your foreign policy is, it’s awful hard to hit the ground running and not to make serious mistakes the first couple of years. I’m not saying that senator obama is where I was [when elected to the senate at age 29]. I was younger than he was when he got to the Senate. But I do think, I acknowledge that experience is not the issue, it’s whether your experience has been good or bad. Somebody with 34 years of bad experience isn’t perfectly qualified to be president, someone with 34 years of good experience that makes a big difference. So, again, I know it’s kindo f difficult to master, it’s kind of difficult to feel sure-footed in a lot of areas that you haven’t spent a long of time dealing with.

As these sorts of quotes go, it's relatively mild. Biden doesn't actually say Obama lacks the experience to be president. In fact, he explicitly leaves open the possibility that Obama is ready for office.

I know of at least one more Biden quote along these lines, referenced here in this August, 2007 debate: "I think he can be ready, but right now I don't believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training." Again, as campaign criticisms go, it isn't that awful. Biden can always say a lot has happened in the year since he said that. (He got to know Obama better, etc.)

Of course, there may be other, more damning statements out there. But if this is as bad as it gets--and if, again, Biden is the nominee--I don't think Biden's past rhetoric will pose much of a poiltical problem. (And, for the record, I don't think it should. Obama's lack of experience in foreign policy isn't ideal, but the judgment he's shown--combined with the intellect--makes me think he's up for the job. It seems perfectly reasonable to me that Biden has come to the same conclusion.)

Update: Just to clarify, it's obviously not a good thing that these quotes are out there. I'm just saying they could be much, much worse, given that Biden and Obama were rivals for the presidency just a few months ago.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Delaware
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008veep; biden; election; electionpresident; elections; joebiden; obama; obamabinbiden; tnr
Hairplug is going to have the boom dropped on him by Team McCain. Why did Obama pick that guy? Someone please explain.
1 posted on 08/22/2008 9:52:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hairplug is going to have the boom dropped on him by Team McCain.

McCain CAN'T Romney, or he loses the ability to show the difference between Obama and Biden.
2 posted on 08/22/2008 9:55:08 PM PDT by GLDNGUN
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
"I think he can be ready, but right now I don't believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training."

I think this Biden quote is going to be haunting them until the election and beyond. Fortunately, BO and the Rats made a rather poor choice for VP. Is this all a head fake for "She who shall not be named?"

3 posted on 08/22/2008 9:59:59 PM PDT by TheDon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: GLDNGUN

There is little difference, Biden is a disgusting liberal, he just talks so much he hides behind moderate BS. We better snap out of thinking Biden is good on foreign policy or anything else. As a conservative I have always despised Biden. We are talking Delaware here folks. Solid Blue.


4 posted on 08/22/2008 10:00:54 PM PDT by Williams
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

I guess this means Delaware’s 3 electoral votes are no longer in play?


5 posted on 08/22/2008 10:02:57 PM PDT by OCC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'm holding out. I don't believe the fat lady has sung and Hillary's not finished with Obama just yet.

Been wrong before, but there's something else churning here in my opinion.

Cheers,
Lloyd

6 posted on 08/22/2008 10:24:06 PM PDT by Lloyd227 (and may God bless Oriana Fallaci)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Why did Obama pick that guy?"

Because Biden said that BHO was articulate, bright, and clean!

7 posted on 08/22/2008 10:29:56 PM PDT by matthew fuller (BHO's HI vacation was a birth certificate repair mission.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

8 posted on 08/22/2008 10:46:40 PM PDT by PhatHead
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PhatHead

Very nice graphic...


9 posted on 08/22/2008 11:04:29 PM PDT by WOSG (http://no-bama.blogspot.com/ - NObama, stop the Hype and Chains candidate)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: matthew fuller
Why did Obama pick that guy?"
Because Biden said that BHO was articulate, bright, and clean!

If IRC, Biden actually said: "Obama is the first African American who is articulate, bright, and clean. What an outright insult to other blacks.

If I were any African American I would be furious over Biden's statement and more so by Obama's choice of him for VP. If I were of the black race, I would smack Obama on the side of the head for promoting that he is "black" and remind all black voters that Obama is 50% whitey...and cannot be trusted to represent them at all. Obama played the race card, for sure, but he also ignored the white race card that is an equal part of his deck and his heritage.

10 posted on 08/23/2008 1:52:12 AM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

The ambiguous, even complimentary, remarks about Obama by Biden in the Democratic primaries are hardly surprising since Biden knew that he surely would not be selected to be the candidate for POTUS - but that he, Biden, had a possibility being selected for VP candidate.

Biden’s remarks on Hillary were probably even better.


11 posted on 08/23/2008 2:58:44 AM PDT by mtntop3
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
EJ Dionne give us more Biden quotes -- Biden defending his plagiarism in college.
''My intent was not to deceive anyone...For if it were, I would not have been so blatant.''

''if I had intended to cheat, would I have been so stupid?''

''I value my word above all else...This is a fact which is known to all those who are or have been acquainted with my character.''

Dionne also provides a sentence which Biden "lifted."
''The trend of judicial opinion in various jurisdictions has been that the breach of an implied warranty of fitness is actionable without privity, because it is a tortious wrong upon which suit may be brought by a non-contracting party.''

12 posted on 08/23/2008 6:16:41 AM PDT by syriacus (They often call me BARRY, but my real name is MISTER SCHMOOZE. [by B.O. + the Faddish Hacks])
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson