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Born in the U.S.A.? (Obama!)
Times Herald ^ | 08/25/2008 | KEITH PHUCAS

Posted on 08/25/2008 7:42:37 PM PDT by neverdem

PHILADELPHIA - A Lafayette Hill attorney filed a lawsuit in federal court Thursday challenging Sen. Barack Obama's claim to United States citizenship. The action seeks to remove the Democratic candidate from the November ballot.

To be eligible to serve as U.S. president, a person must be born in this country. According to Obama's birth certificate, which his campaign posted on its Internet site in June to quell rumors that he is foreign born, the Illinois senator was born in Hawaii on Aug. 6, 1961. On Thursday, Philip Berg filed a temporary restraining order in federal court to bar Obama from running for president, claiming the Democratic candidate was actually born in Africa.

"We really don't believe he was born in Hawaii," Berg said. "We think he was born in Kenya."

The presidential candidate's father, Barack Obama Sr., was born and raised in a small village in Kenya, according to Obama's campaign Web site.

Berg's suit claims the senator's grandmother, brother and sister, who live in Kenya, believe they were present during Obama's birth in the African country.

Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, grew up in Kansas, and his parents met at the University of Hawaii when Dunham was a student there, according to the Obama campaign. Eventually, Obama's father returned to Kenya, and his son grew up in Hawaii with his mother and for a few years in Indonesia after Dunham married an Indonesian man, Lolo Soetoro. Also, Obama lived with his maternal grandparents in Hawaii.

"If he was born in Hawaii, and he was adopted in Indonesia by Lolo Soetoro, (Obama) would lose his citizenship," Berg said.

The Obama campaign has a special section on its Web site, "Fight the Smears," that debunks the birth certificate story and other reports that have circulated about him during the campaign.

"It's part of a smear campaign," said an Obama campaign volunteer who identified herself as Rachel. "There are just so many lies out there."

The lawsuit claims three "independent" document forensic experts performed extensive tests on the digitally-scanned image of Obama's "Certificate of Live Birth" posted on the campaign's site and found the document to be "a forgery."

Jerome Corsi, author of the book, "The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality," has also deemed the birth certificate phony, according to The Annenberg Political Fact Check, www.FactCheck.org.

The Annenberg Political Fact Check, a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania, aims to expose deception and confusion in U.S. politics.

Recently, FactCheck.org staffers "touched, examined and photographed" the original birth certificate kept at the Obama campaign headquarters in Chicago and concluded the document is genuine.

"The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A.," FactCheck.org staffers concluded.

Sean Smith, Obama's Pennsylvania communications director, was contacted Friday about the suit but declined comment.

The civil suit filed by Berg will be reviewed by the U.S. Federal Election Commission, according to Patty Hartman, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania.

Keith Phucas can be reached at kphucas@timesherald.com or 610-272-2500, ext. 211.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; issues; obama; obamafamily; philipberg
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This story is getting some legs, IMHO.
1 posted on 08/25/2008 7:42:38 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

If fastcheck says it’s authentic, I believe them. They are non-partisan AFAIK.

There are plenty of things to criticize Obambi about that are legitimate. Pushing this story I believe is similar to the people trying to claim that McCain isn’t a citizen because he was born in the Panama Canal-relying on deception.


2 posted on 08/25/2008 7:51:44 PM PDT by LiberalsSpendYourMoney (Liberalism is a tax on humanity)
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To: windcliff

Something to read in the morning ping


3 posted on 08/25/2008 7:52:07 PM PDT by I Drive Too Fast
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To: neverdem

They’ll look at the Hawaii birth cert and the newspaper entry, and throw it out. That will be that. I bet it does not even get to discovery.

Unless someone can prove somehow that Barack was born in Kenya , good luck, then they’d need to prove that Stanley Ann was not a citizen.

The article is wrong on one count- the Constitution does not require that the president be born in the USA, but insists that the president be “natural born”.

Two US citizens can have a child in Uzbeckistan and that child will be a US citizen.

The Constitution does not define “natural born”.


4 posted on 08/25/2008 7:52:23 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: neverdem

Nobody can touch, examine and photograph an original birth certificate except a government official. It is kept by the state/city and only certified copies are given out, specifically to the person whose birth it records.

Anything else is a copy - period.

More Obama BS and lies.


5 posted on 08/25/2008 7:53:01 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: LiberalsSpendYourMoney
That's what you'd think, but they are directly supported by the Annenburg Foundation, which was the source of funding for Ayers and Obama in their “education” work.

Definitely NOT UNBIASED.

6 posted on 08/25/2008 7:55:50 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: LiberalsSpendYourMoney
What does Phil Berg know that this Houston Based African newspaper had as their headline back in June 2008.

Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting


7 posted on 08/25/2008 7:57:20 PM PDT by ncfool (Making Obama look patriotic is above my pay grade)
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To: LiberalsSpendYourMoney

AFAYK is not very far. FactCheck is part of the Annenberg Challenge, part of which Obama and William Ayres belong(ed) to.


8 posted on 08/25/2008 7:57:44 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: neverdem

“We think he was born in Kenya.”

Let’s go on a safari.


9 posted on 08/25/2008 7:57:48 PM PDT by 353FMG (What marxism and fascism could not destroy, liberalism did.)
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To: neverdem

I don’t think that the democRATS would be so brazen as to run somebody who could be disqualified by demonstrable ineligibility.

I put noting past the d’RATS but those are some pretty high stakes, don’t you think? If they lose and Obama is not eligible, they are absolutely finished as a political organization. This would be an unrecoverable error.


10 posted on 08/25/2008 7:59:24 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (I will not vote for Obama not because he is black, but because he is RED)
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To: LiberalsSpendYourMoney

Welcome to Free Republic. Thanks for demonstrating that this story is getting legs, because it has started attracting newbies like you.


11 posted on 08/25/2008 8:02:57 PM PDT by Kevmo (A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: LiberalsSpendYourMoney
If fastcheck says it’s authentic, I believe them. They are non-partisan AFAIK.

The same Annenberg.org which owns/runs/affiliated with "factcheck.org" that is connected with the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which Obama chaired and which Ayers co-founded?

LoL!

12 posted on 08/25/2008 8:05:54 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: neverdem
This will get as much traction in the courts as me filing a civil lawsuit for him lying to the public stating “change we can believe in”. I think we need to focus on things that can't be covered up. BTW, can any freepers tell me how to post pictures on here, I seem to be having problems?
13 posted on 08/25/2008 8:06:03 PM PDT by claymax ("Remember upon the conduct of each depends the fate of all." Alexander the Great)
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To: LiberalsSpendYourMoney
If fastcheck says it’s authentic, I believe them. They are non-partisan AFAIK.

Yeah. I used to believe google would honestly report results of a search, too.

Last month half a million image results to "Obama birth certificate" disappeared in the space of a few days.

FactCheck is wholly owned by the Annenberg Foundation.

Obama and Ayres ran the Anneberg Challenge program in Chicago.

No bias here, no sirieee.

14 posted on 08/25/2008 8:06:17 PM PDT by null and void (Obama/Biden: It's a no-brainer)
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To: Ouderkirk

I don’t think that the democRATS would be so brazen as to run somebody who could be disqualified by demonstrable ineligibility.
***It’s not done out of brazenness, but out of stupidity. Also out of trust — they trusted Obama when they asked about the rumor. Once the higherups in the demorat party realize they’ve been lied to on something as big as this, Obambi will likely pay a high price.


15 posted on 08/25/2008 8:07:04 PM PDT by Kevmo (A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: neverdem
This will get as much traction in the courts as me filing a civil lawsuit for him lying to the public stating “change we can believe in”. I think we need to focus on things that can't be covered up. BTW, can any freepers tell me how to post pictures on here, I seem to be having problems?
16 posted on 08/25/2008 8:07:48 PM PDT by claymax ("Remember upon the conduct of each depends the fate of all." Alexander the Great)
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To: neverdem
This will get as much traction in the courts as me filing a civil lawsuit for him lying to the public stating “change we can believe in”. I think we need to focus on things that can't be covered up. BTW, can any freepers tell me how to post pictures on here, I seem to be having problems?
17 posted on 08/25/2008 8:07:51 PM PDT by claymax ("Remember upon the conduct of each depends the fate of all." Alexander the Great)
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To: DBrow
Two US citizens can have a child in Uzbeckistan and that child will be a US citizen.

Yeah, but one parent was UNQUESTIONABLY a Kenyan.

Guess what? Citizenship goes with the FATHER'S citizenship if the kid is born in the father's country.

18 posted on 08/25/2008 8:09:55 PM PDT by null and void (Obama/Biden: It's a no-brainer)
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To: DBrow

You wrote: “ then they’d need to prove that Stanley Ann was not a citizen.”

I am suspecting you have not read the other 70 threads on this. The law at the time of Obama’s birth did not give citizenship to children born out of wedlock to only one young American parent when born overseas.

Essentially, it prevented illegitimate children of servicemen and foreign woman from claiming citizenship. If Obama was born in Kenya or Canada he is likely not a citizen.


19 posted on 08/25/2008 8:10:35 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: DBrow
>>>Two US citizens can have...

I believe that is the operative word. Stanley Ann was a minor and Obama Sr. was not a U.S. citizen.

20 posted on 08/25/2008 8:11:45 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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