Posted on 08/26/2008 10:22:55 PM PDT by Kevmo
Thanks for the update.
Do you have proof of this?
News archives are easily fabricated, and there was motive, opportunity , and created time to do so.
Not really contemporaneous either.
Obama has a US passport, which is ipso facto proof of citizenship.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The State of Hawaii cannot delegate prove of birth to the State Department Passport service:
"Delegata potestas non potest delegari"
"Ipso facto" in this case is a laughing stock.
"natural born citizen of the US" is in the hands of a state Hawaii Dept. of Vital Statistics. And they have redacted the CB serial number, the one thing they couldn't change easily.
As a matter of course any copy of a genuine CB has the serial number shown, its part of the necessary bona fides of the document. Without it the document means , as you say" Bat sh_t."
A motion to file a restraining order preventing Sen. Obama's Presidential run was denied today. The suit has not been dismissed and lawyer Phil Berg is continuing legal actions. Check back here for the full story tomorrow and in the print edition of The Times Herald.
That's all of it.
Thanks, neverdem.
Ping.
Will that tin foil hat bother the helicopters that keep flying over my house? lol
The applicant needs to show irreversable damage being likely if the subject activity continues. Berger could not prove that because, the matter can be handled later by the electoral college, should Obama win the election.
We already have the ground laid for another " they cheated " moment.
You can bet that Republican Party operatives have been to Hawaii already, and have the genuine serial number on the redacted CLB produced by the State of Hawaii Dept. of Vital Stats.If that number leads to a dead man, they have all they need to try and prevent Obama from becoming the next president of the USA , if he is elected.
I do not believe Obama had a valid CLB from Hawaii, simply because he travelled abroad on an Indonesian passport after attaining the age of majority. If he had a valid CLB, it would have been a lot easier to obtain a US passport. Do you know how expensive and difficult it is to get an Indonesian passport when not physically resident in Indonesia, applying from the USA to Indonesia or at an Indonesian consulate? Indonesia would ask for a CLB from Indonesia. They likely got one too.
Thats the kicker folks. And something stinks in Denmark AND in Hawaii.
Thanks! Just gave it its own thread.
I'd assumed that the Indonesian passport Obama used to travel to Pakistan circa 1980 was simply the same one mommy had got for Barry when they left Jakarta so she could leave him with the grandparents in Honolulu.
He may have been born in several places.
The messiah has the multiple immaculate reception miracle at his command?
This whole issue is rather bizzarre.
If he had a US CLB from Hawaii, he would have easily and quickly gotten a US passport from any US Embassy, Consulate, or Passport office in the USA.
Why not? Seems like they went to a lot of trouble to avoid getting a US passport otherwise.
This is old news, dated August 5. Dr. Neil Krawetz is a hack, who doesn't know his asterisk from his elbow about scanner mechanics, laser printing, and image graphics. The only difference between him and Koyaan is the "Dr." which he probably won on Ebay.
Unfortunately, TechDude WAS a liar and WAS a fraud who fabricated nonexistent evidence, so I cannot argue with them on that.
Regarding Pakistan, the theory I read was that circa 1980 they were Soviet allies, and the State Department either had a warning or a prohibition against Americans going there. Ergo BHO used an Indonesian passport because it facilitated travel.
I would add that it would require time and money to apply for a US passport, so if he already had an Indonesian passport obtained years earlier in Jakarta, using it might just have been the easier thing to do.
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What are you claiming TechDude lied about?
What non-existent evidence did he fabricate?
Why do you say TechDude was a fraud?
Obamas continued use of an Indonesian Passport after attaining the age of majority is a rather curious phenomenon, all the more curious because no statement has been made in relation to it by any campaign spokesperson.
As an aside, if he had a US passport, his travels to Pakistan would have been likely historically traceable. The use of the Indonesian one gives complete untraceability.
Very interesting indeed.
I simply do not believe he had a valid LBC at the time from Hawaii.
Dr. Neal Krawetz is a hack, as bogus as theCOLB imae, with zero credibility. He, like Koyaan, thinks that cursing at me makes his comments seem more valid.
I agree on the fishyness of both using an Indonesian passport as an adult, and the lack of explanation by the campaign.
If he has a valid Hawaiian birth certificate, I'd like him to show it to some objective authority, like a judge or the several secretaries of the 50 states.
Whoop-de-doo. Did it ever occur to people that you can get a degree in computer science and NEVER, EVER deal with image analysis?
Can you say, "Computer Programming?"
Can you say, "Database Management?" <
I'd like the 'Puter Doc to show me some of those "scanner artifacts" that he and others claim produced the pixels I found between the letters. He can't because they do not exist.
Krawetz went to the same School of Swear Words that Koyann attended. He, like the other K, think that if you inject some pithy euphemisms for excrement, you can make your comments sound more valid.
Puh-lease...give me a break
Oh, I forgot to say, "Which part of counting green pixels within a pixel grid within a fixed pixed grid is NOT quantitative?
Dr. K. told Dr. P (that's me) that he used Principle Components on the image. Little did he know that I have a Masters in Statistics as I proceeded to punt his PC right out the door.
Kevmo, I kind of which you has made it an except by posting only a few paragraphs of it, and then a link to it.
***When you’ve been around as long as I have, you start to develop quirky habits. One of them is that I copy & paste as much as I can get my hands on because those links go down. Free Republic has outlasted all of the other sources for information. We are creating history here, and embarrassing evidence for the other side has a tendency to vanish.
Unfortunately, TechDude WAS a liar and WAS a fraud who fabricated nonexistent evidence, so I cannot argue with them on that.
***Can you please elaborate on that? Did any of it involve the finding that Obama’s sister Maya had her name on the original document over at FightTheSmears?
Unfortunately, none of what you just wrote in that post makes much sense to 95% of readers. The prize goes to the guy who can bring that kind of material down to bite-size chunks that normal people can understand. Just a hint, for when you write that book of yours... ;-)
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