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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

You failed to respond to my follow-up. Behe’s claims of irrecucible complexity have been overtaken by research. If you had followed the debate on this thread you would know that predictions of evolutionary scenarios for the flagellum are being confirmed as we learn more about how it works and how the (impossible according to Behe) various subcomponents work. When Behe made his prediction that the flagellum was irreducible, we didn’t know of any living bacteria with functional sub components. Now we do.

The same cannot be said of blood clotting. If Behe had looked at the literature on blood clotting he would never have made the claim that taking away bits of it makes the whole thing fail. There are, in living things, many kinds and degrees of blood clotting systems. The system is not irreducible.

The example of the eye is particularly amusing, since the question of eye evolution was introduced by Darwin. The eye is one of the best example of evolutionary sequences, and many of the simpler versions of eyes are found in living things. the most interesting aspect of eye evolution is that we can see the steps at the molecular level. Precursors of eye function are found in single-celled organisms.


1,601 posted on 09/21/2008 7:34:09 AM PDT by js1138
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To: js1138

Layman alert — I agree that the concept of light sensitive cells is possible. In fact, I think Darwin was brilliant for suggesting that. I could envision a simple light sensitive nerve cell evolving over time. Coulter’s point about the eye did not impress me. I’ll grant you that.

As for Behe being outdated, thank you for that, but there’s still the problem of evolutionists’ reaction to his findings. I think that, in hindsight, was Coulter’s main point. Evolutionists lashed out at Behe when he formed those conclusions. Her point is, after all, that evolution is part of the Godless Religion [although many good Christians are also evolutionists].

Behe’s discovery would have been blocked in schools for questioning evolution. Lawsuits would have been filed by the ACLU. That’s the only point I’m trying to make. We need to allow people to think beyond dogma and convention. Freedom. And anyone who thinks people are ‘too dumb’ to understand evolution is full of baloney.


1,605 posted on 09/21/2008 7:45:12 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (DRILL HERE! DRILL NOW! NO STRINGS! You guys are great! FReep on!)
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