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He concluded saying, "Abortion needs to be in our country a defining issue and we ought not be afraid to make it a defining issue because when we do that we will have an end of abortion in this country."

Amen!

1 posted on 09/13/2008 10:25:26 AM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 09/13/2008 10:26:30 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 09/13/2008 10:27:46 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment
Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

4 posted on 09/13/2008 10:29:14 AM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: wagglebee

Obama Doesn’t Want His Daughters Punished with a Baby

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNzmly28Bmg

CNN on Obama’s Infant Born Alive Act Rejection

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPZCXcTwZPY

Jill Stanek on Obama and Born Alive Infant Protection Act (MUST SEE)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdbYjmbFzo

Obama Cover-up Revealed On Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Bill

http://www.nrlc.org/ObamaBAIPA/ObamaCoverup.html

Explosive Audio Found Obama arguing against BAIPA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypDwNpgIUQc

Babies left to die!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdbYjmbFzo


5 posted on 09/13/2008 10:29:38 AM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: wagglebee

Is a transcript available? This will be useful for my campus Students For Life group and the campus Catholic faith-sharing group.


7 posted on 09/13/2008 10:48:07 AM PDT by GCC Catholic (Sour grapes make terrible whine.)
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8 posted on 09/13/2008 10:48:21 AM PDT by polymuser (Taxpayers voting for Obama are like chickens voting for Colonel Sanders.)
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They left wiggle room. A Catholic politician will tell you they are pro choice but personally opposed to abortion or or. So they claim they are not pro abortion. I wish they’d elucidated on that. Maybe they will get to it. But calling them pro abortion (which they are) puts dissidents into irately defiant mode where they will rationalize that they are pro choice, it doesn’t apply to them, and can safely ignore all of it.


10 posted on 09/13/2008 10:54:31 AM PDT by Aliska
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This list will probably be updated after the weekend. I fully expect more Bishops to speak out against Pelosi, Biden et al.

Updated: American Bishops who have spoken against Pelosi

Here is the complete list of American bishops who have responded to Nancy Pelosi's comments so far:
  1. Archbishop Charles Chaput of Denver was the first American bishop to respond
  2. ... Bishop James Conley, his auxiliary, joined him
  3. Archbishop Donald Wuerl of Washington DC responded twice, first in a press release and second in a statement to The Hill. He has also appeared on Fox News, I am told.
  4. Cardinal Justin Regali of Philadelphia, chairman of the Committee on Pro-Life Activities, issued this statement through the USCCB website...
  5. ... Bishop William Lori of Bridgeport, chairman of the Committee on Doctrine, joined him
  6. Cardinal Edward Egan of New York publised a strongly worded statement of his own
  7. Bishop Samuel Aquila of Fargo issued a letter correcting Pelosi's claims
  8. Bishop David Zubik of Pittsburgh and...
  9. ... Bishop Michael Sheridan of Colorado Springs have chimed-in
  10. Archbishop Jose Gomez of San Antonio, CNA reports has added his voice ...
  11. ... Bishop Oscar Cantu, his auxiliary bishop, has joined him
  12. Bishop William Murphy of Rockville has published an extensive letter
  13. Bishop Edward Slattery of Tulsa has a detailed response
  14. Bishop Kevin Farrell of Dallas has joined the USCCB's efforts
  15. Bishop Gregory Aymond of Austin is on-board
  16. Cardinal Sean O'Malley of Boston mentions the USCCB on his blog
  17. Bishop Thomas Wenski of Orlando has written at length
  18. Archbishop John Nienstedt of Saint Paul/Minneapolis challenges Pelosi's statement
  19. Cardinal Francis George of Chicago, President of the US Bishops, has weighed-in
  20. Bishop Robert Vasa of Baker, OR publishes in the Catholic Sentinel
  21. Bishop Jerome Listecki of La Crosse, WI responds in a word document
  22. Bishop Richard Lennon of Cleveland, OH will comment in his September 5th column (PDF)
  23. Bishop Ralph Nickless of Sioux City, IA has one of the very best responses I've read
  24. Archbishop George Niederauer of San Francisco has invited Pelosi to a "conversation"
  25. Bishop Nicholas DiMarzio of Brooklyn: "Judging the Candidates"

{Last updated on September 10th.}

Notes:

  • Previous #23 has been removed. Bishop Joseph Gossman of Raleigh, NC is actually the bishop emeritus, and the new bishop, Michael Burbidge has not, to my knowledge, made a personal statement.
  • Previous #16 has also been removed, it was an erroneous duplication of current #13.
  • #26 was added September 10th, although he published his column September 6th

11 posted on 09/13/2008 10:54:50 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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If you wish to circulate it, please COPY and don't LINK--linking uses my bandwidth. This needs to be communicated to the pro-life communities in PA, which may well decide the election.
14 posted on 09/13/2008 11:01:38 AM PDT by Winged Hussar (http://moveonpleasemoveon.blogspot.com/)
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I would be interested in seeing that idiot Doug Kmiec’s response to this, as it completely dismisses his justification for supporting Barack Obama, Blessed be His Name.


16 posted on 09/13/2008 11:46:21 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (DEATH TO PUTIN!)
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This is a major smackdown to Douglas Kmiec, among others, who has gone on a campaign to convince Catholics to vote for pro-abortion politicians.


17 posted on 09/13/2008 8:19:19 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (This gun for hire)
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It appears that many of the bishops have started taking vitamin B16 supplements.

Amen!


19 posted on 09/14/2008 11:36:18 AM PDT by Notwithstanding (Obama/Biden: the "O" stands for Zero Executive Experience & Zero Accomplishments)
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To: wagglebee

It appears that many of the bishops have started taking vitamin B16 supplements.

Amen!


20 posted on 09/14/2008 11:36:33 AM PDT by Notwithstanding (Obama/Biden: the "O" stands for Zero Executive Experience & Zero Accomplishments)
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A Voter's Guide: Pro-choice candidates and church teaching

Abortion and embryo-destructive research are different. They are intrinsic and grave evils; no Catholic may legitimately support them. In the context of contemporary American social life, abortion and embryo-destructive research are disproportionate evils. They are the gravest human rights abuses of our domestic politics and what slavery was to the time of Lincoln. Catholics are called by the Gospel of Life to protect the victims of these human rights abuses. They may not legitimately abandon the victims by supporting those who would further their victimization.

Catholics cannot support abortion rights-Vatican

Voter's Guide for Serious Catholics - 5 NON-NEGOTIABLE ISSUES FOR CATHOLIC VOTERS


Faithful Citizenship: A Catholic Call to Political Responsibility

Catechism on Abortion

The Gospel of Life

Living the Gospel of Life


21 posted on 09/14/2008 8:33:38 PM PDT by Coleus (Abortion and Physician-assisted Murder (aka-Euthanasia), Don't Democrats just kill ya?)
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1Cr 11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

25 posted on 09/14/2008 9:11:44 PM PDT by editor-surveyor ( If Obama had Palin's resume and experience Obama would be qualified to be VP too.)
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I like the combine image- weed out and ELIMINATE the largest and most obvious evil first. Then, move on and weigh your options.


27 posted on 09/15/2008 3:54:17 AM PDT by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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