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New CBS Poll: Obama +5! As expected, look at the internal sampling for bias.
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Posted on 09/18/2008 5:27:06 AM PDT by smartyaz

This seems like a fair and reasonable sample to me.

Total Respondents 1133 Republicans 326 Democrats 437 Independents 370


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electionpresident; mccainpalin
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To: VaBthang4

If you look at turnout over the last 20 years, the number of Dems to Repubs is usually about even. The maximum difference has been + 4% for the Democrats. No way is there going to be a 10 percentage point difference on election day. Since most polls are now using a turnout model of around + 10% for the Democrats, these polls are way off and leaning much further to the left than they should be.


41 posted on 09/18/2008 6:54:44 AM PDT by nailspitter
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To: dangus

The RNC is continually asking for more funds, yet what do they do in return. This poll, which overweights Democrats plus Independents should be attacked, and hard. Polling organizations should be held accountable and made to explain both their techniques and their results, But aside from the blogosphere there will be no response.


42 posted on 09/18/2008 6:58:36 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: Mr. Know It All
-—”Secondly, why would a polling company “fake” results?”-—

Because of who commissions them and gives them their parameters.

The polling orgs only need to produce a good final poll, because that is all that is used when measuring final polling accuracy. Nobody outside of right-wing blogs ever questions why three weeks before an election, Zogby or CBS has John Kerry up 6-8 points, and then a tie in their last poll right before the election.

Before the final week, organizations have carte blanche to twist and manipulate numbers without consequence. That's why CBS can produce polls with as little as 26% GOP (Do a FR search) to show “momentum” for a particular candidate.

News orgs use polls to shape public opinion until the final week, then they have to save face. That's why no TV or Newspaper commissioned poll EVER shows the Democrat behind, except after GOP Conventions and in the final week.

Remember how Mondale was supposedly leading until the final week? Give me a break!

43 posted on 09/18/2008 7:03:16 AM PDT by TitansAFC (In 2008, please vote GOP and show us that you love your country more than you hate John McCain)
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To: TitansAFC
That's why no TV or Newspaper commissioned poll EVER shows the Democrat behind, except after GOP Conventions and in the final week.
Ever? I guess this Gallup/USA Today poll didn't happen then:
http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2008/07/gallupusa_today_poll_mccain_4.html
44 posted on 09/18/2008 7:38:25 AM PDT by Mr. Know It All (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: VRWCRick

What used to be called professional wrestling is now called “Sports Entertainment”, what used to be called professional journalism should now be called “advocacy entertainment” or “political entertainment”. Today’s “journalists” are even more patently fake than “The Great Bolo” who used to wear a mask and hide weapons in his trunks back in the fifties.


45 posted on 09/18/2008 8:04:21 AM PDT by RipSawyer (What's black and white and red all over? Barack Hussein Obama)
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