You better finish your studies, or you'll end up in Iraq!"
Posted on 09/26/2008 4:27:48 PM PDT by thinkingIsPresuppositional
Remember reading the wonderful Langston Hughes...American Communist?
“Oscar Wilde once described a cynic as a man who knew the price of everything and the value of nothing”
I’d just like to point out that this sentiment is economically nonsensical. Prices are a rationing function, and while they must take into consideration people’s valuation as expressed by demand, there is no such thing as abstract “value.”
Thank You! And coming from someone who went for Communications...it seemed like the great decision at the time...everyone and their mother is “settling” on communications now as a fall back. An AA has become nothing more than a high school diploma on steroids.
To say nothing of Alfred Kinsey.
I've worked for the most stupid people in the world whose only claim to their success is that they had college degrees. I knew the job forwards, backwards, sideways and inside out but had no degree.
Once I got to the corporate office it was horrendous. I worked with hard working, dedicated people and we in turn worked for morons who only got their positions because they were college grads. Get yourself a masters? You're now a manager..............automatic!
Technical degrees are another thing but in my line of field, (HR) anybody can do the job once you learn the corporation's HR policies..........
I always post this in threads about college tuition because it is possible to do it tuition free.
High school years spent doing Dual Credit...graduate High School and get an AA at the same time...in our state, this option is tuition free at any State College or University.
Our state also has a merit scholarship for a State University of your choice, requirements are SAT/ACT score, grade point, etc. So that way you have your Bachelor’s tuition free.
Our son is now in grad school and has a Graduate Assistantship (this time it’s a private school GA granted according to GMAT score.) GA position requires 20 hours work per week for a prof, and in turn the college grants full time grad tuition (9 hours per term) and a small stipend.
If you live in an area where there are colleges in proximity to your home, the student can commute and that eliminates housing/board, so the main expense for a Bachelor’s and Master’s has been the cost of books (between 500-700 per term.)
I’ve said for years that if you look at the three areas that had skyrocketing costs, they all suffered from enormous government distortion of market forces.
Government enterprises backed bad loans—Housing prices shot up
Government funds or backs student loans—College costs soar
GOvernment pays for and regulates large sections of the health care sector—Health care costs rise
If the government would simply keep its hands on courts, security and securing liberties it would be amazing to see what things REALLY cost and what new ways our society would change.
I can say as someone who will be finishing up at a major state school (after many years of off time) that the degree is just a credential. I’ve met people with advanced degrees that were as versed in Dostoevsky as high school dropouts.
I agree with this writer’s proposal. I think the government should step away from all student loans and let’s see what happens.
It’s not that I don’t think someone should learn about something more than their field (especially since so many people change their mind after exposure) I just think they overdo. All the little curriculum requirements that vary from university to university and even schools in the university are all directed at separating students from their money by making them waste more time.
4 years is entirely too long for what is NOW essentially a high school diploma when it comes to the job market.
I may finish in another year and a half but I expect I’ll have to head to grad school not too long after to see any REAL return on investment.
Well, I confess I did like his “Mother to Son” (Life for me ain’t been no crystal stair...) But yeah... lots of leftie writing. I hate bell hooks. And I had to read William Ayers to get my teaching credential. I knew who he was WAY before the Obama thing. I was actually in a Ph.D. program in anthropology. Did three years of coursework before I finally snapped and said, “I am done with this #$%^&.”
The only degrees worth having.
There’s an employer here that i won’t name where I found out that one of the managers didn’t even have a degree. It was simply a matter of putting in time but the problem was, well-qualified and experienced people were not getting ahead EVEN though they ALSO had a degree.
The discrimination can go both ways, sometimes.
BUt basically, I’ve met so many utter morons who had degrees, it’s become clear that it’s just an expensive delay of a large segment of young people hitting the job market and an excuse for extending our adolescence and justify the existences of professors and administrators.
I don’t know. But, he was a screenwriter for the TV show M*A*S*H among others (believe it or not).
Prelutsky and Professor Williams are asking the wrong question. They should be asking, “Is High School worth it?”
Prof. Walter Williams: Is College Worth It ?
Townhall ^ | August 27,2008 | Walter Williams
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2069487/posts
Posted on Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:20:40 PM by SeekAndFind
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Here’s a thread I started a couple of years ago.
High School Equivalency Exam
World Wide Web Links | 1/6/05 | Kevin O’Malley
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1315730/posts
Posted on 01/06/2005 7:58:45 PM PST by Kevin OMalley
Or Illegals!
I agree except that high schools would need to do much more to help students decide which vocation they want to go into. Most people I know changed majors after going to college because they really didn’t know what they ultimately wanted to do. This would not be all that difficult, but it would need to be addressed.
Otherwise, it’s about what I’ve been saying.
susie
It’s called Florida College. It’s a tiny little Christian college in Tampa. It’s a very good school for it’s size, but it’s expensive...like all schools. *sigh*
There’s not more outrage because many don’t really pay for their college (or if they do they have a loan and so it’s not until they are paying it off later that they feel the pain).
susie
You better finish your studies, or you'll end up in Iraq!"
2 of ours went to state colleges and we paid for some of it and took loans for some of it (which we are still paying off as we had a deal, if they got their degree we would pay the loans off, if they quit before graduation THEY would pay them off). The other one went to a private college, which was about twice the cost of the state schools, but fortunately he got a scholarship which covered about half. I don’t know if it was worth it, but I’m glad they all went to college. I was the first in my immediate family to get a college degree, but my husband’s family is lousy with them! Oh, and my middle son just got his MBA. What a bad time to get that!
susie
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