Biden, Palin Battle Over Iraq Plans

The Washington Times ^ | October 3, 2008 | Joseph Curl and Christina Bellantoni

[kellynla]

ST. LOUIS | Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. and Gov. Sarah Palin clashed Thursday over Iraq, with the Democrat charging that Sen. John McCain sees "no end in sight" for the 5-year-old war and the Republican charging that Sen. Barack Obama wants to wave "the white flag of surrender."

The two vice-presidential nominees, who by this weekend will each have a son fighting in Iraq, took diametrically opposed positions on the war, arguing over Mr. Obama's opposition to the "surge" of troops that stabilized the country and Mr. McCain's support of the Bush administration missteps in the war's early years.

"I know that the other ticket opposed this surge," said Mrs. Palin, whose son, Track, is serving in Iraq. We're getting closer and closer to victory, and it would be a travesty if we quit now in Iraq. [EnLeader] Your plan is a white flag of surrender in Iraq.'

Mr. Biden said that there must be a timeline for withdrawal and that Iraq must step up to take the reins as he set out the "fundamental difference between us — we will end this war. For John McCain, there is no end in sight to end this war. Fundamental difference: we will end this war."

Each accused the other's running mate of voting against funding for U.S. troops in combat Thursday, with Mrs. Palin chastising Mr. Biden, saying the vote was wrong, "especially with your son in the National Guard" and headed for Iraq on Friday.

"Barack Obama voted against funding troops there after promising that he would not do so. And Senator Biden, I respected you when you called him out on that. You said that his vote was political and you said it would cost lives."

[kellynla]

Great night! Palin & Dodgers both win!

[Jeff Head]

Biden lied about Iraq...over and over again. And about numerous other issues as well.

I felt Sarah was constrained by her advisors and the campaign to be too much a cheerleader tonight and not allowed to just be herself and take the dems to task. Having said that, she certainly held her own with Biden and, much more importantly, she connected with the American people much much better than Biden.

That will be the key from tonight.

Biden bloviated all over the place and will be shown to have made glaring misrepresentations on McCain's record and his own.

But all of that pales in comparison to Sarah's ability, even when cheerleading for McCain, to connect with the American people in her style, in her wording, and in her demeanor.

Common Americans are naturally drawn to her. She speaks to them...speaks for them. All of the MSM attempts to the contrary, that is what she does and she McCain campaign needs to have her constalntly out in front of the people doing just that.

I'M VOTING FOR SARAH...AND SO ARE A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE

[Cindy]

WASHINGTON TIMES.com: "BIDEN GETS VEEP ROLE WRONG" by Stephen Dinan (October 3, 2008)

HUMAN EVENTS.com: "OBAMA'S THOUGHT POLICE" by Hans von Spakovsky (October 2, 2008)

AMERICAN THINKER.com: "ARE FOREIGN DONATIONS POWERING THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN?" by Rick Moran (October 2, 2008)

WorldNetDaily.com: "4 WEATHERMEN TERRORISTS DECLARE SUPPORT FOR OBAMA Call for 'grassroots effort' to help boost campaign" by Aaron Klein (October 2, 2008, 12:20 am Eastern)

ACE OF SPADES HQ - blog: "BIDEN'S 14 LIES" (October 2, 2008)

LittleGreenFootballs.com - blog: "BIDEN'S BIG LIE" (October 2, 2008)

stepping back in time...VIDEO: "YouTube Debate: Would You Meet with Iran/Syria/North Korea?" (Added July 23, 2007)

FOX NEWS.com (AP): "FACT CHECK: Biden's Chopper Was 'Forced Down' by Snowflakes" (October 2, 2008)

FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com (THE WASHINGTON TIMES): "From a Little ACORN" by Mona Charen (October 2, 2008)

FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com: "LETTING THE AL QAEDA MYTH GO UNCHALLENGED" by Seth Forman (October 2, 2008)

JIHADICA.com: ""The Painful Truth: Al-Qaeda is Losing the War in Iraq"" (October 1, 2008)

Link (pdf)

FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com: "BLACK RACISTS RECRUITED TO GUIDE THE JIHAD" by John Perazzo (October 2, 2008)

JIHAD WATCH.org (CAMPUS WATCH): "INGRID MATTSON AND THE U.S. MUSLIM ENGAGEMENT PROJECT" (SNIPPET: "Mattson was one of the speakers at an interfaith gathering at the Democratic National Convention in August...") (October 1, 2008)

stepping back in time...JIHAD WATCH.org - Dhimmi Watch: "ISLAMIC LEADER URGES JEWS TO BE WARY OF CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALISTS" (March 15, 2007)

NEWSMAX.com: "SECRET, FOREIGN MONEY FLOODS INTO OBAMA CAMPAIGN" by Kenneth R. Timmerman (September 29, 2008)

ZOMBIE.com - blog: "THE GREENLINING INSTITUTE: DOES THE FINANCIAL CRISIS HAVE ITS ORIGINS IN BERKELEY?" (September 30, 2008, 7:44 pm)

THE AMERICAN PROWLER - Special Report: "FINANCIAL AFFIRMATIVE ACTION" by Matthew Vadum (September 29, 2008, 12:08 am)

[Post no. 2] - ARCHIVES - Topic: BIDEN & OBAMA (aka B & O) (October 1, 2008 -- Click Here.)

[LeoWindhorse]

“What I find in Afghanistan,” General McKiernan said during a Pentagon briefing on Wednesday, “is a degree of complexity in the tribal system which is much greater than what I found in Iraq. One of the real differences between Afghanistan and Iraq was, if you recall, Afghanistan was in the midst of a civil war when we intervened. And that potential is still there.”

Republican presidential nominee John McCain has often cited the US strategy in Iraq as a model for how to win in Afghanistan.

Gen. David McKiernan , Oct 2, 2008

[Grampa Dave]

NOW, NOW, NOW...THERE GOES JOE BIDEN LYING AGAIN.

[kellynla]

Well, Palin is certainly “easier on the eyes” than Hillary...and no I don’t need to see any pix of Clinton, thank you! I haven’t had my breakfast and I don’t want to lose my appetite. LOL

gotta go..Market is opening...have a good one!

Kelly