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Decision to teach kids to be 'gay' allowed to stand.
WND ^ | 10/08/08 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 10/09/2008 5:22:05 AM PDT by kindred

A federal court decision approving mandatory public school instruction for children as young as kindergarten in how to be homosexual is being allowed to stand, drawing a description of "despicable" from the parent who unsuccessfully challenged his school district's "gay" advocacy agenda.

The U.S. Supreme Court without comment has refused to intervene in a case prompted by the actions of officials at Estabrook Elementary school in Lexington, Mass., who not only were teaching homosexuality to young children, but specifically refused to allow Christian parents to opt their children out of the indoctrination.

The case on which WND has reported previously involves Massachusetts father David Parker, who with his wife now have withdrawn their children from public schools, for which they continue to pay taxes, and are homeschooling.

The decision by the Supreme Court leaves standing the ruling from the appeals court for Massachusetts, where Judge Sandra Lynch said those who are concerned over such civil rights violations "may seek recourse to the normal political processes for change in the town and state."

Earlier District Judge Mark Wolf had ordered that school officials' work to undermine Christian beliefs and teach homosexuality is needed to prepare children for citizenship, and if parents don't like it they can elect a different school committee or homeschool their children.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: children; davidparker; homeschoolingisgood; homosexual; homosexualagenda; homosexuals; indoctrinate; indoctrination; perversion; pervertedmarriage; perverts; queers; robertscourt; ruling; scotus; sodomites; tyranny; wnd
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To: TaxRelief
The “opt-out option” is there in essence. ( Tax Relief)

So the Massachusetts court is saying “keep paying your taxes, shut up, and either let us indoctrinate your kid, or put him in private school/homeschool.” ( Jen B)

Ransom!

Unless a parent ransoms their child the government will imprison their child in their government indoctrination centers ( misnamed "schools"). If the parents resist the government school brown shirts these parents face armed police and court action. Government schools are **serious** business in the life of all parents.

Thankfully we still have the option to ransom our children by paying extra ( in addition to supporting and establishing the religion of atheistic Secular Humanism in government indoctrination camps.

61 posted on 10/09/2008 8:58:53 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: CHATTAB
You may be right.

There is far more reason than merely government schools. This ruling is merely a symptom of a far larger ( and irresolvable) problem. We are facing a worldview that has infected every bureaucracy, our government, culture, and nearly all educational institutions.

62 posted on 10/09/2008 9:02:51 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: metmom
What bothers me the most about this gay agenda is the fact they don't tell the whole truth. Do these people tell the little children just what is means to be gay? Or the fact that you can get AIDS & die? I am so glad I now home school!
63 posted on 10/09/2008 9:12:07 AM PDT by pandoraou812 (Don't play leapfrog with a unicorn! ...........^............)
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To: muawiyah

New York City already has Harvey Milk High School. It gets around anti-discrimination ordinances by being “open to everyone.” The same is true of the various “Afro-Centric” schools in some urban areas.


64 posted on 10/09/2008 9:16:10 AM PDT by Clemenza (PRIVATIZE FANNIE AND FREDDIE! NO MORE BAILOUTS!)
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To: P-Marlowe

This is endemic. We must pray for revival. There is no political solution for this disease.
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You are absolutely correct. There is no political solution.


65 posted on 10/09/2008 9:21:23 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: wintertime

“Yes, some children will need to be institutionalized for their schooling. Their parents are too poor, too stupid, too ill, too mentally unbalanced, too ill-educated by their own government education, too illiterate, too stressed,..or...these parents just may not like their kids.”

Hey, I resemble a couple of those remarks! Heh heh!!

~wink~

Seriously though...with determination, even an abjectly ignorant person can perhaps not teach but at least orchestrate a home education.


66 posted on 10/09/2008 9:22:32 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (And as He stands in victory, sin's curse has lost it's grip on me.)
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To: TaxRelief
SCOTUS had no choice but to stay out of this one.
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The fundamental problem that no court has ever addressed is the underlying conflict between government schooling, the First Amendment, and freedom of conscience.

**No** school can be religiously neutral. **ALL** schools establish a religious wordview. This includes **all** government schools!

Besides this, **all** government schools must violate free speech, press, assembly, and expression of religion. It is unavoidable, **all** schools must do this.

So....I can see the reluctance of the Supreme Court to take on this issue. Ultimately, the court ( if it were honest) would need to rule that **every** government school in this nation is a First Amendment abomination and must be closed.

I doubt the Supremes have back bones stiff enough to do that.

67 posted on 10/09/2008 9:29:51 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: wintertime

The kids would be home schooled. They wouldn’t have S.S. numbers or known addresses so would not exist as far as the gov knows.We as legal registered Americans would have to play by the rules and go down with the ship. As the country disintegrates around us, we would assist and educate and support the unregistered young who don’t have to play by the rules. For example, I tag a car in my name for an unregistered. They get pulled over for speeding with no license or ID, they don’t show up for the court date. Much like the illegal aliens get by now. The problem would be, how could they own a house or land? Anyway lots to work out to make it work, but it would be a good way to revolt in a non violent way. It’s never been about gun control, It’s people control.


68 posted on 10/09/2008 10:28:52 AM PDT by Boiling point (If God had wanted us to vote, he would have given us candidates.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
There’s hope. We must fight for better justices.

I think SCOTUS was correct in not taking this case. This is purely a case of State law. I don't see any Constituional or Federal issue at stake here.

You only need 4 Justices to agree to take up a case on appeal. It seems that at least one of Roberts, Alito, Scalia and Thomas agree with me that this is not an appropriate issue for SCOTUS to decide.

69 posted on 10/09/2008 10:41:02 AM PDT by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: Boonie

The unregistered folks would have to utilize the monetary system we have now until the cashless system is mandatory. It would be up to us to make sure that never happened. If enough people started with this non violent form of revolution, eventually, maybe a couple of generations, there would be hundreds of thousands of them, all well educated in what caused this once great nation to fail after so long. In the mean time, the old tax base (us), would have died off bankrupting the old socialist system.


70 posted on 10/09/2008 10:41:38 AM PDT by Boiling point (If God had wanted us to vote, he would have given us candidates.)
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To: wintertime
The fundamental problem that no court has ever addressed is the underlying conflict between government schooling, the First Amendment, and freedom of conscience.

What does that tell you? Maybe there simply is no Constitutional issue here, other than in your own mind.

If you, or other likeminded people, think there is a Constitutional argument to be made here, then, by all means, file a lawsuit. Until then, your whining on this issue is tiresome.

71 posted on 10/09/2008 10:48:22 AM PDT by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: Citizen Blade

Be careful for what you wish for.


72 posted on 10/09/2008 2:56:53 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: Citizen Blade

I do like states’ rights. Good point. But what about the other three justices? Were they all wrong?


73 posted on 10/10/2008 2:08:06 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (BO [my plane stinks] Change is BS Change. Ayers+Raines+ACORN=RICO)
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To: little jeremiah; wagglebee
I see nothing has changed around here. “freepers” are dismissing this because WND is the only source that will cover this story.
74 posted on 10/10/2008 9:43:52 AM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (Proud Father of 2 US Marines. Support our troops!)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

Why do freepers hate WND? It’s right about tons of stuff!

(wagglebee - will you let me do a bit of pinging in a while? My fingers are itching...!)


75 posted on 10/10/2008 10:04:16 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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76 posted on 10/10/2008 10:10:27 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: little jeremiah; DirtyHarryY2K; 8mmMauser; floriduh voter; BykrBayb
Why do freepers hate WND? It’s right about tons of stuff!

I think the problem is that when WND is "wrong" they are REALLY WRONG.

However, Bob Unruh wrote this piece and he is great. He used a lot of stuff from FReepers to right an expose about Lauren Richardson, a woman from Delaware whose mother was trying to kill Terri Schiavo-style. Ultimately, Lauren's parents agreed to take her home and let her live and Bob Unruh deserves credit for that. WND was also talking about Terri Schiavo long before everyone else in the world knew who she was.

77 posted on 10/10/2008 10:20:15 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: little jeremiah
All I have at this time is a blackberry, just a step above texting on my cell phone. cannot copy&past links and such. searching google news to see how many other sources are covering this would be easy. However, posting them would be impossible for me.
78 posted on 10/10/2008 10:31:41 AM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (Proud Father of 2 US Marines. Support our troops!)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
I do like states’ rights. Good point. But what about the other three justices? Were they all wrong?

We don't know if any justices voted to hear this case. The vote is not made public when the Supreme Court decides whether or not to take a case.

Maybe 3 conservative justices voted to hear this case, but we'll never know.

79 posted on 10/10/2008 10:34:42 AM PDT by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: grellis
This is what acceptance of homosexuality gets us, folks. Give an inch, lose a mile.

This, ultimately, will be happening in every state homosexual marriage is allowed. If homosexual marriage is legal, schools can and will force the idea upon children.

80 posted on 10/10/2008 10:47:24 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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