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1 posted on 10/14/2008 6:52:37 AM PDT by Columbo
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To: Columbo

Yawn


2 posted on 10/14/2008 6:54:35 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: Columbo

How come CSPAN puts it in the archives to make it look like the presser has already happened?


4 posted on 10/14/2008 6:56:11 AM PDT by library user
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What’s he gonna say? ACORN is his friend? All their staffers are his colleagues? We have nothing to fear from ACORN? ACORN is respectful?

When are the Republicans gonna grow a pair?

We need a conservative party.


5 posted on 10/14/2008 6:56:17 AM PDT by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: Columbo

Every time I see an ACORN person I get the image of those Scientologist recruiters.

Poor disillusion kids are getting used and abused.


8 posted on 10/14/2008 6:58:14 AM PDT by Daniel Ramsey (Live from Wasilla, Alaska and saying NO to Barack HUSSEIN Obama)
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bttt


9 posted on 10/14/2008 6:58:17 AM PDT by Guenevere (We will NOT collapse.The New World Order WILL collapse.This is our last chance!)
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Fox is carrying it live.


11 posted on 10/14/2008 7:00:08 AM PDT by jersey117
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So will it go something like...”You do not have to be afraid of ACORN. They are a good organization. I admire their accomplishments.”

McCain needs to do the right thing here...ACORN mut be stopped. I think someone should call for a delay in the election so that these bogus voter registrations can be identified and confiscated for evidence in the criminal investigations.


16 posted on 10/14/2008 7:03:32 AM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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i wonder how many people McCain is going to point to? Photobucket
17 posted on 10/14/2008 7:03:33 AM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (How does one win over terrorists? KILL them with UNKINDNESS)
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OBAMA-MCCAIN ISSUE COMPARISON CHART
18 posted on 10/14/2008 7:03:42 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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Obama was in charge of the Project Vote/ACORN registration in 1990s in Chicago. Were there any false registrations then?


20 posted on 10/14/2008 7:05:45 AM PDT by igoramus08
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Wonder if they are personally going to break the big ACORN fraud story we were supposed to hear about this morning.


21 posted on 10/14/2008 7:06:06 AM PDT by jersey117
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Okay folks, I’m about to embark on a rant because I’ve had quite enough.

This is the freaking United States of America. Technology allows phone calls over the Internet, video-conferencing, banking on our cell phones. WHY THE HELL CAN’T WE HAVE A DECENT, ORDERLY WELL-RUN ELECTION?

Why do the Dems get to steal the election cause folks they are going to steal this election I double damn guarantee.

And the pubbies sit back and arch their eyebrows angrily. At times they get out of the tanning booth and oncit a pubbie actually got his nail polish smeared.

For the best insurance in the world against an unfair election is an active and aggressive opposition party and folks, we don’t have that.

Now I just listened to Danforth and yes he had an eyebrow arched damn up to his hairline he was so angry.

Here’s what the pubs need to do....


“citizens of the United States.

Despite our constant efforts in many states, including the crucial states of Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Indiana, we cannot stop an organization guided and financed on many levels by the Barack Obama campaign from illegally registering voters. Such illegally registered voters, if not caught, can vote multiple times.

My fellow Americans....our soldiers have given their lives on battlefields across the planet to preserve that most precious benchmark of freedom....that is One Man/Woman, One Vote.

The Republican party must now ask that concerned citizens across the fruited plains unite in an effort to stop this voter fraud. We ask that local Republican parties organize a batallion of volunteers to both serve as witness to the voting and the counting. We ask that volunteers stand outside EVERY polling place in America.

We do not want violence and all local laws should be adhered to in terms of where witnesses may be and for any crowd permits as requuired.

My fellow Americans, we ask that YOU stand in silence but WATCH, watch softly, watch quietly, but let the world know you are watching. If you should see the same fellow entering the polling place three or four times, report it. Do not intimidate and do not cause trouble. In most cases just our silent but ever-vigilent presence will discourage all but the most egregious forms of voter fraud.

Call you local Republican office to sign up or for more information. Visit our web site at WEWILLNOTLETTHEMSTEALOURELECTION.com.

Sometimes my fellow Americans, you have to take a stand. This upcoming election is one such time.


Above....the pubbies must risk their artful suntans and spend a few moments in the real sun to make the above call to action.

Also, heh, let’s see how our candidate handles all this. His attack on this insult to our most basic of liberties will say about him all we need to know.


22 posted on 10/14/2008 7:06:14 AM PDT by Fishtalk
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"I am SOOOO busted"
30 posted on 10/14/2008 7:09:11 AM PDT by Daniel Ramsey (Live from Wasilla, Alaska and saying NO to Barack HUSSEIN Obama)
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ACORN Press Conf. live thread


31 posted on 10/14/2008 7:10:00 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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Did anyone see Megan Kelly OWNING that hippie from ACORN after the presser? Yikes!!
Can wait for the youtube link...


38 posted on 10/14/2008 7:11:18 AM PDT by apastron (I miss the good old days - when bankers just jumped out of a window...)
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I'd like to hear McCain say that all ACORN voter registrations should be declared corrupted and as such each state, in order to preserve the integrity of the election, should remove those registrations (and early votes) from the rolls.

I'm sure someone on the thread will be more than happy point out why that can't happen, but that IS what needs to happen.

41 posted on 10/14/2008 7:14:16 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (We're counting on you to drag the old codger across the finish line first, Sarah!)
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Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now Acorn v. City of Florida City, 447 So.2d 1363 (Fla. App. 3 Dist., 1984)

appeal by acorn dismissed.

not much there.

however we need a list of ACORN EMPLOYEE CONVICTIONS.

ACORN spokefrauds are using big lie theory because their lies need only last two weeks.

They scream “shame on you” and deny deny deny.

NOBODY is calling them on this stuff.

again we need a case list of convictions.


43 posted on 10/14/2008 7:15:19 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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444 So.2d 37

ASSOCIATION OF COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS FOR REFORM NOW/ACORN, a non-profit corporation; Verna Lee Dukes; Alberta Gidden, individually and on behalf of all those similarly situated, Appellants,
v.
CITY OF FLORIDA CITY, a municipal corporation; John Calualtti, in his capacity as Mayor of Florida City; Otis Wallace; Juanita Smith; Arturo De Leon; Jennie Notaro, in their official capacity as city commissioners of the City of Florida City, Appellees.

No. 83-1272.

District Court of Appeal of Florida,
Third District.

Dec. 27, 1983.
Rehearing Denied Feb. 13, 1984.

Joseph P. Hoffman, Leon Sharpe, Miami, for appellants.

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Joseph F. Tomassi, Homestead, for appellees.

Before HENDRY, NESBITT and DANIEL S. PEARSON, JJ.

NESBITT, Judge.

The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (the Class) brought this class action seeking an order invalidating certain special assessments levied by the City of Florida City (the City) for a sewer system. The Class also sought to enjoin the City’s foreclosure actions against the properties of those who have not paid the assessment. This is an appeal from a final judgment in favor of the City.

The trial court held that the special assessments for the sewer system improvement, the assessment liens and the foreclosure actions were valid against the members of the Class. The court below made specific findings of special benefit to the Class. The Class contends that the trial court’s holding was unsupported in fact and law.

Factually, the Class asserts that the distances between the properties of the Class members and the system made the system inaccessible. The Class incorrectly asserts that property must abut the improvement to be assessed for it. All property abutting or within the protective proximity of a sewer system improvement may be assessed. City of Hallandale v. Meekins, 237 So.2d 318 (Fla. 4th DCA 1970). Whether the properties of the Class were within the “protective proximity” was a factual determination concerning which both parties had the opportunity to present evidence and expert testimony to the trial court. We will not disturb the factual conclusions of the lower court when, as here, the judgment is supported by sufficient evidence in the record. Airborne Freight Corp. v. Fleming International Airways, Inc., 423 So.2d 921, 922 (Fla. 3d DCA 1982).

In addition, the Class asserts that there can be no special benefit from the sewer system before the system is completed. In this regard, the Class contends that the trial court’s finding of benefit is unsupported in both fact and law. Legally, the Class asserts that there can be no assessment for a future benefit. This is not correct. The City may calculate the benefit to be derived and levy a special assessment for the improvement before actually completing the improvement. Atlantic Coastline Ry. v. City of Winter Haven, 112 Fla. 807, 114 Fla. xxv [corrected opinion], 151 So. 321 (1933), the Florida Supreme Court stated that “if specially assessed property is, or may be, enhanced in value by the improvement when made, it is subject to an assessment in proportion to the benefits it will likely receive from the execution of the work.” Atlantic Coastline Ry. v. City of Gainesville, 83 Fla. 275, 91 So. 118, 121 (1922) (”it is presumed or assumed that all property abutting on a street to be improved will or may be benefitted ....”).

The Class states it is a self-evident fact that there can be no benefit from a sewer one cannot use. The City made the assessments according to “the McCabe plan,” developed by a city engineer, which divided the sewer project into four phases. Under the McCabe plan, each property owner would be deemed to receive a further benefit as each phase of the sewer construction was completed. Those who were actually using the system were assessed at a higher rate than those who were not. The City determined that under the plan all taxpayers would be specially assessed in direct proportion to the benefit received.

The burden was on the Class to overcome the dual presumptions that a sewer system improvement is of special benefit to those in proximity to it, see City of Hallandale v. Meekins (not necessary for city to make specific finding of special benefit to each parcel abutting or within protective proximity of sanitary sewer improvement because such an improvement is by its nature designed to afford special or peculiar benefit to those properties) and that the legislative determination of special benefit is correct. See Meyer v. City of

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Oakland Park, 219 So.2d 417 (Fla.1969); City of Winter Haven; Atlantic Coastline Ry. v. City of Gainesville. If reasonable men could differ over whether there was a special benefit, the court must defer to the determination of the city officials. City of Gainesville v. Seaboard Coastline Ry., 385 So.2d 1069 (Fla. 1st DCA 1980); City of Hallandale v. Meekins. The Class has clearly failed to sustain its burden of overcoming these presumptions. Whether the assessment is for the future benefit of a completed system or for the present benefit derived from a partially completed system, 1 it is clear that the Class was indeed properly assessed for the sewer system improvement.

The judgment below is affirmed.


1 It is also clear that the assessments are contributions for a completed system, regardless of whether the Class is deemed to have been benefitted by partial completion. We have no reason to doubt that the City will complete the system and provide sewer service to the Class. Having levied assessments against the Class, the City has entitled the Class to a completed system and the Class is not without legal recourse to enforce this right should the City fail to complete the sewer.


46 posted on 10/14/2008 7:16:07 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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Thank you.

Got it.

At last I can give up the Ambien.

Could Danforth be nore bored by this.


61 posted on 10/14/2008 7:22:36 AM PDT by HonestConservative (Go Baroke with Barack)
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“Pillow Fight!!!!”


62 posted on 10/14/2008 7:22:45 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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