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Christian right intensifies attacks on Obama (APO)
Associated Press ^ | ERIC GORSKI and RACHEL ZOLL

Posted on 10/25/2008 2:02:13 PM PDT by presidio9

Terrorist strikes on four American cities. Russia rolling into Eastern Europe. Israel hit by a nuclear bomb. Gay marriage in every state. The end of the Boy Scouts.

All are plausible scenarios if Democrat Barack Obama is elected president, according to a new addition to the campaign conversation called "Letter from 2012 in Obama's America," produced by the conservative Christian group Focus on the Family Action.

The imagined look into the future is part of an escalation in rhetoric from Christian right activists who are trying to paint Obama in the worst possible terms as the campaign heads into the final stretch and polls show the Democrat ahead.

Although hard-edge attacks are common late in campaigns, the tenor of the strikes against Obama illustrate just how worried conservative Christian activists are about what should happen to their causes and influence if Democrats seize control of both Congress and the White House.

"It looks like, walks like, talks like and smells like desperation to me," said the Rev. Kirbyjon Caldwell of Houston, an Obama supporter who backed President Bush in the past two elections. The Methodist pastor called the 2012 letter "false and ridiculous." He said it showed that some Christian conservative leaders fear that Obama's faith-based appeals to voters are working.

Like other political advocacy groups, Christian right groups often raise worries about an election's consequences to mobilize voters. In the early 1980s, for example, direct mail from the Moral Majority warned that Congress would turn a blind eye to

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1 posted on 10/25/2008 2:02:13 PM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9
"It looks like, walks like, talks like and smells like desperation to me," said the Rev. Kirbyjon Caldwell of Houston...

He'll know what real desperation feels like when Islam's bombs drop on his dimwit head. It's true, the Devil has managed to fool many with promises of peace, even the 'elect.'

2 posted on 10/25/2008 2:06:35 PM PDT by pray4liberty (Watch, pray, and work. This election will separate the sheep from the goats.)
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To: pray4liberty

We need places to muster up if Obama wins.


3 posted on 10/25/2008 2:07:44 PM PDT by screaminsunshine
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To: presidio9
illustrate just how worried conservative Christian activists are about what should happen to their causes and influence

Terror strikes in the US, nukes on Israel and Russia invading neighbours is merely making Christian activists worried about their "causes and influence". WTH!? The Assorted Pansies are a bunch of freaks.

4 posted on 10/25/2008 2:10:10 PM PDT by SolidWood
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To: presidio9
Terrorist strikes on four American cities. Russia rolling into Eastern Europe. Israel hit by a nuclear bomb...

Is Joe Biden out speaking again?

5 posted on 10/25/2008 2:14:34 PM PDT by abishai
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To: pray4liberty

I know what you “mean” and am in full agreement. I cannot believe the way some Christians are falling for this. Unless they are “false” Christians, the same way Obama is the “false” Messiah.


6 posted on 10/25/2008 2:17:38 PM PDT by davandbar
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To: presidio9

THIS IS ONE CRISTIAN WHO IS TIRED OF BEING TAKEN FOR GRANTED AND SPAT UPON. DOES THAT MAKE ME A BAD ONE? NON THE LESS THESE ARE REAL FEARS TO ME ALSO. HOW DO YOU DONATE?


7 posted on 10/25/2008 2:20:03 PM PDT by STUDABAKER
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To: screaminsunshine

What do you mean?


8 posted on 10/25/2008 2:21:16 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: screaminsunshine

We need places to muster up if Obama wins.


That will happen. I think we are also going to see “cells” of 3-4 people in an “underground” similar to Nazi occupied Europe. John Galt is going to be “The man”.


9 posted on 10/25/2008 2:21:30 PM PDT by unkus
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To: presidio9
The imagined look into the future is part of an escalation in rhetoric from Christian right activists who are trying to paint Obama in the worst possible terms as the campaign heads into the final stretch and polls show the Democrat ahead.

The truth always puts Obama in the worst possible light.

10 posted on 10/25/2008 2:22:25 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: presidio9

More AP garbage. This time a hit piece against Christians.


11 posted on 10/25/2008 2:23:20 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: unkus

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Rose

Remember the White Rose!


12 posted on 10/25/2008 2:24:16 PM PDT by roses of sharon (When the enemy comes in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD will put him to flight (Isaiah 59:19)
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To: presidio9

I did a quick search of Rev. Caldwell and he appears to be legit. But in spite of that he appears to have fallen for the baloney that Hussein is a capital C Christian.

http://www.kingdombuilders.com/templates/cuskingdombuilders/details.asp?id=23260&PID=74164

Looks like he may be pushing for Hussein for the same reason Colin Powell is; the color of his complexion. Darn shame, too. Seems to be a good man.

Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Come to think of it, Obama seems to have hornswoggled the whole country on the cheap. No signs, no wonders, just a bunch of meaningless hot air!


13 posted on 10/25/2008 2:24:53 PM PDT by Tucker39 (I Tim. 1:15b " .....Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief.")
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To: unkus

Who IS John Galt???


14 posted on 10/25/2008 2:25:31 PM PDT by screaminsunshine
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To: FFranco

Well like FR. For one. But local. Organizations like NAACP. We will be the minority.


15 posted on 10/25/2008 2:27:41 PM PDT by screaminsunshine
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To: pray4liberty; presidio9
He'll know what real desperation feels like when Islam's bombs drop on his dimwit head. It's true, the Devil has managed to fool many with promises of peace, even the 'elect.'"

As the above video pointed out about abortion/murder... All these 'pastors' 'Episcopal priests' 'United Methodist pastors' and other clergy embracing homosexuality and abortion, many ways to heaven...etc that support Obama ARE NOT Christians. They are wolves in sheep's clothing, teachers of doctrines of demons deceiving even the 'elect'. Obama scoffs at Christians and his own words prove it. I still peg him as a sleeper-cell Muslim and it slipped out to Stephenopopolis and Momar Cadafi confirmed it.

16 posted on 10/25/2008 2:28:11 PM PDT by KriegerGeist (I'm now considered a "Bitter Clinger" to my guns and religion.)
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To: roses of sharon

Pacifism will not save us or you.


17 posted on 10/25/2008 2:29:30 PM PDT by Noumenon (Time for Atlas to shrug - and to pick up a gun)
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To: roses of sharon

Remember the White Rose!


Yes, thank you. I see no opposition to the coming supression from the opponents of such things as the Patriot Act. I’ts all “selective indignation”.


18 posted on 10/25/2008 2:30:10 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Tucker39

Obama has deceived many, many people.


19 posted on 10/25/2008 2:30:49 PM PDT by kc8ukw
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To: screaminsunshine

Who IS John Galt???


Serious? Google him.


20 posted on 10/25/2008 2:31:26 PM PDT by unkus
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To: presidio9
The United Methodist has been turning into a Liberal advocacy group for a few years now. They have been preaching that being against certain lifestyles and decisions is being judgmental.
21 posted on 10/25/2008 2:33:15 PM PDT by tobyhill (His name is Barrack Hussein Obama for a reason.)
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To: presidio9

“He said it showed that some Christian conservative leaders fear that Obama’s faith-based appeals to voters are working.” Um, the ‘methodist’ pastor must not give a crap that Obama worked in Illinois to protect the suffocation killing of born alive infants completely separated from their mothers body. But then, satan has pastors in all the church organizations. The sad thing is, even when these not yet born again ‘pastors’ are revealed for the dead souls they are, people still flock to them.


22 posted on 10/25/2008 2:34:02 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: presidio9

It’ll be easy because he is going to take our firearms.


23 posted on 10/25/2008 2:34:06 PM PDT by JamesA
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To: presidio9

Shall I say try to take our firearms...lines will soon be drawn in the sand..sounds silly but could happen.


25 posted on 10/25/2008 2:35:44 PM PDT by JamesA
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To: presidio9
I'm confused why this Christian pastor, Rev. Kirbyjon Caldwell, who supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 is suddenly supporting a Democrat? What possible reason could he have for endorsing the most liberal Senator who wants no restrictions on abortion? I'm confused. Can someone help me understand? http://gcmwatch.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/cadlwell.jpg
27 posted on 10/25/2008 2:37:32 PM PDT by TNLawyer (McCain/Palin'08......Great job with your VP pick, McCain!)
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28 posted on 10/25/2008 2:40:18 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: screaminsunshine

It’s plain to me what you mean.


29 posted on 10/25/2008 2:43:02 PM PDT by annieokie
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To: KriegerGeist
You are right, and this has been prophecied already.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears...
2 Timothy 4:3

30 posted on 10/25/2008 2:44:05 PM PDT by pray4liberty (Watch, pray, and work. This election will separate the sheep from the goats.)
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To: TNLawyer
Can someone help me understand?

Sure. Blackmail always works.

31 posted on 10/25/2008 2:46:35 PM PDT by pray4liberty (Watch, pray, and work. This election will separate the sheep from the goats.)
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To: presidio9

Thank you for posting this.


32 posted on 10/25/2008 2:46:59 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: unkus

Read the book.


33 posted on 10/25/2008 2:47:33 PM PDT by screaminsunshine
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To: TNLawyer

Look again at the picture.


34 posted on 10/25/2008 2:48:58 PM PDT by screaminsunshine
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35 posted on 10/25/2008 2:53:13 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Noumenon
Of course, but underground and grassroots activism will be what we are left with.

And we had better be ready to use our imagination and ingenuity to get info to the people.

Obviously, we have failed in that responsibility.

36 posted on 10/25/2008 2:53:25 PM PDT by roses of sharon (When the enemy comes in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD will put him to flight (Isaiah 59:19)
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To: presidio9

Europe will become a force to be reckoned with in the near future, as the Old Roman Empire is revised. Russia will nearly be destroyed in the battle of Gog and Magog when she and Iran go against the land of Israel. A United Europe will rule the world under the Antichrist. It’s unclear at this time what roll the United States will play. Perhaps an Obama administration, combined with current economic problems will create an impotent nation, or we may join the European Union? The United States will definitely be crippled by what the Church refers to as the Rapture, when millions of Christians suddenly disappear from the planet.


37 posted on 10/25/2008 2:54:39 PM PDT by evangmlw
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To: screaminsunshine

I have already read the book.


38 posted on 10/25/2008 2:56:32 PM PDT by unkus
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To: TNLawyer

His Christianity must be called into question. Does he only profess Christianity or is he indeed possessed by Christ. Not everyone, even those who claim to be pastors are geniune Christians. Jesus said, “many will say to Me on that day, Lord, Lord, and I will say depart from Me, I never knew you.” John said those who profess Christ, but do not obey Him are LIARS. I think this rightfully defines many who profess Christ today (ie the likes of Barak Obama), and others.


39 posted on 10/25/2008 2:58:47 PM PDT by evangmlw
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To: unkus

Does it seem to you that we are living the movie?


40 posted on 10/25/2008 2:59:09 PM PDT by screaminsunshine
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To: screaminsunshine

“Who IS John Galt???”

It’s ironic that you would be interested in a thread where the underlying theme is conservative-survival, and then show not the least of initiative to inform/educate yourself.

I imagine there are many such conservatives. Good luck. I hope my criticism is taken as constructive, not personal.


41 posted on 10/25/2008 3:02:00 PM PDT by Harrius Magnus (LIBERALS: We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.)
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To: screaminsunshine

The movie was written “before the foundations of the world,” according to God’s Word. There is great book out by David Jeremiah (What In The World Is Going On)? Great insight from God’s Word as to what is happening in our nation and in the world today.


42 posted on 10/25/2008 3:02:07 PM PDT by evangmlw
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To: Harrius Magnus

Love consructive critisism. Do not understand what you are saying.


43 posted on 10/25/2008 3:04:23 PM PDT by screaminsunshine
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To: presidio9
Rev. Kirbyjon Caldwell of Houston, an Obama supporter who backed President Bush in the past two election

Yeah I bet he did
44 posted on 10/25/2008 3:19:39 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: uncbob

OOPs I see the pic —skin color wins again


45 posted on 10/25/2008 3:22:08 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: screaminsunshine

Does it seem to you that we are living the movie?


Under the Clintons, it was if we were being occupied by some un-American power. Who knows how it would pan out if Obama would win but it wouldn’t be pretty.


46 posted on 10/25/2008 3:35:39 PM PDT by unkus
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To: unkus

Well the sheeple never figure it out til it hits them in the face. Maybe there will still be elections in 2010.


47 posted on 10/25/2008 3:39:48 PM PDT by screaminsunshine
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To: screaminsunshine

Well the sheeple never figure it out til it hits them in the face. Maybe there will still be elections in 2010.


The way things are looking, who knows. The scary thing is, if there were no elections in 2010, a lot of people would just go along with it.


48 posted on 10/25/2008 3:47:09 PM PDT by unkus
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To: uncbob

“OOPs I see the pic —skin color wins again”

Bingo!

Which is why i posted the picture in the first place.


49 posted on 10/25/2008 3:49:38 PM PDT by TNLawyer (McCain/Palin'08......Great job with your VP pick, McCain!)
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To: screaminsunshine

In a sense, John Galt is you, and me, and every productive person in this country who finally gets ENOUGH - of paying taxes only to have a corrupt politician divert them first to himself, then partly to some minority automatic voting bloc that has found that it can be given everything it needs or wants for FREE. John Galt is a person who sees the “Atlas” group (the ones who are weary of carrying the world on their shoulders), now finding that they can no longer hold honest elections because of the cynicism of the “godlike” political class, which is the worst of the “parasites” who attach themselves like a leech to the working, producing class. - So, the millions of John Galts just shrugged one day and up and QUIT, simply making just enough money to provide for himself - and maybe giving something to the old, sick and infirm, and the child in his own IMMEDIATE community and cutting out the parasites. I think one guy was found having opened his own little hamburger stand to meet real needs in his own community and to earn his living.) - I think Ayn Rand (”Atlas Shrugged”) actually wasn’t much on charity, but we who are religious and live it will always help those less fortunate than ourselves personally.


50 posted on 10/25/2008 4:07:45 PM PDT by Twinkie (Democratic Party = Communist Party)
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