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Unanswered questions regarding Obama’s birth certificate
Israpundit ^ | Nov 2/08 | Andy Martin

Posted on 11/02/2008 4:03:45 AM PST by tedbel

(HONOLULU)(November 2, 2008) Here's a little test for you: how many mainstream media have asked to see Barack Obama's original, typewritten 1961 Certificate of Live Birth ('COLB') in Honolulu? As far as we know, none. Only I have actually followed procedures to get access to the document. I have filed a lawsuit seeking access, and have a court hearing scheduled for November 18th in Honolulu.

(Reminder: in 2004, the Chicago Tribune filed a lawsuit to open a stale divorce file of Obama's opponent; this year, the Tribune has been stone cold silent in the face of Obama's intimidation.)

Fox News has led the latest parade of mainstream disinformation. Major Garrett of Fox said Saturday that Hawai'i officials had determined Obama was born in Hawai'i. Whoa. Garrett's claim was confusing, misleading and totally unsubstantiated. Texas Darling is in general agreement with my analysis.

A Hawai'i COLB is only one piece of paper in a complicated evidentiary inquiry involving Obama. No one outside two people from the Hawai'i Department of Health has apparently viewed the original 1961 document. Neither of them has any forensic or legal experience. Health Director Chiyome Fukino is a medical doctor.

She probably dug out the original COLB because the Attorney General of Hawaii asked her to. Does that make sense? Absolutely it does. After all, his office has to appear at a court hearing in two weeks and respond to my lawsuit. That is the way lawsuits progress. Lawyers (AG) consult clients (DofH) and ask for evidence to prepare for court.

A couple of days ago I asked my readers to participate in explaining the peculiar fact that Barack Obama was supposedly born in Hawai'i, and three weeks later his mother was a college student in Seattle,

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bc; birth; birthcertificate; chiyomefukino; colb; fukino; hawaii; obama; obamagate
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1 posted on 11/02/2008 4:03:45 AM PST by tedbel
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To: tedbel

The clouds could part, angels could sound trumpets, and the mighty hand of God could decend from heaven bearing a copy of Obama’s birth certificate, and a considerable percentage of the people around here would still deny its existence.


2 posted on 11/02/2008 4:06:05 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: tedbel
Obama himself sure demands a lot of others that which he refuses to provide.

Let me also say that I remain distressed that the White House during this confirmation process, which overall went smoothly, failed to provide critical documents as part of the record that could have provided us with a better basis to make our judgment with respect to the nomination. This White House continues to stymie efforts on the part of the Senate to do its job. I hope with the next nominee who comes up for the Supreme Court that the White House recognizes that in fact it is its duty not just to the Senate but to the American people to make sure we can thoroughly and adequately evaluate the record of every single nominee who comes before us.

Remarks of Senator Barack Obama on the Confirmation of Judge John Roberts
3 posted on 11/02/2008 4:07:02 AM PST by cripplecreek (Paying taxes for bank bailouts is apparently the patriotic thing to do. [/sarc])
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To: Non-Sequitur

True, but it sure would be nice to see it, anyway.


4 posted on 11/02/2008 4:16:24 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
That may be true but there are still a bunch of us who care about the law, truth and what really transpired.

Here's what many of us believe but can not fully document yet:

1. Many of us believe that Obama was born in Mombasa,Kenya

2. That Granny Obama swears that she witnessed his birth and is so happy "her grandson who was born here will now be president."

3. Many of us also believe that the BC offered on the web is phony and that Internet experts like techdude have more than proved it to be a phony and

4.That the true BC may have been dug up by Bill/Hill operatives keeping three copies and giving one to Phil Berg who is now suing the state of Pa. to keep Obozo off the ballot and the only reason the suit is progressing through the courts is because he holds that certificate not becuase of the shabby case he prepared,

5. That Obama was adopted at age 6 by Lolo Soetoro,dunham/obama's second husband, has a background as a muslim and was schooled as such.

6. That Obama went to Honolulu in the middle of a heated campaign only to secure the BC there which was sealed when he was adopted. He just wanted to make sure no on can get at it and that there was no incriminating intel at Granny Toots as well.

Those are just a few of the things tha many of us believe to be true.

5 posted on 11/02/2008 4:20:07 AM PST by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Why did Obama rush to Hawaii last week? Sorry, but I'm not buying the “sick grandma” thing at all. I don't have an opinion about the birth certificate yet, but it surely is very suspicious, don't you think?
6 posted on 11/02/2008 4:23:21 AM PST by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: tedbel

We will never see the original becasue it says :

Religion: Muslim.


7 posted on 11/02/2008 4:30:14 AM PST by NoLibZone (As insane as McCain is , my principles can't allow someone like Huessein to be president.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

The clouds could part, angels could sound trumpets, and the mighty hand of God could decend from heaven bearing a copy of Obama’s birth certificate, and a considerable percentage of the people around here would still deny its existence.

You mean Zero might show it? /sarc

Its real simple: produce the damn thing and it all goes away.

Whats so tough about that?


8 posted on 11/02/2008 4:33:12 AM PST by Adder (typical basicly decent bitter white person)
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To: ishabibble
Why did Obama rush to Hawaii last week? Sorry, but I'm not buying the “sick grandma” thing at all.

Come on, Obama is followed everywhere by a horde of media. If he had to rig something with his birth certificate then the last thing he'd do is go himself. He'd send one of his minions to do it for him.

I don't have an opinion about the birth certificate yet, but it surely is very suspicious, don't you think?

I'd be a lot more suspicious if someone could come up with concrete evidence that he wasn't born in the U.S. So far, nothing.

9 posted on 11/02/2008 4:33:43 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

“The clouds could part, angels could sound trumpets, and the mighty hand of God could decend from heaven bearing a copy of Obama’s birth certificate, and a considerable percentage of the people around here would still deny its existence.”

I doubt your theory will be tested, at least before No. 4., but let’s just see if this will work. There is (I believe) a document posted that has been declared, by experts, to be an accurate record of Obama’s birth. What if the authorities, in Hawaii, simply affirmed that. By the way, quite being so danged melodramatic.


10 posted on 11/02/2008 4:35:43 AM PST by Peter Horry (Mount Up Everybody and Ride to the Sound of the Guns .. Pat Buchanan)
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To: NoLibZone
Or because there's a big fat stamp on it: "BASTARD."

In any event, Andy Martin's antics -- particularly his breathless cliffhanger announcements of imminent bombshell news that somehow never transpires, not to mention his endless huckstering -- have pretty thoroughly destroyed what little credibility he ever had.

11 posted on 11/02/2008 4:35:51 AM PST by Tenniel2 ("Obama is perfectly happy to destroy wealth as long as he can redistribute it" -- Andy Roth, CFG)
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To: tedbel

Could we please dispense with the birth certificate issue... It really is getting rather foolish.

Why not concentrate on Barry O’s illegal aunt instead. That’s a real story, with real facts.

The women is living on welfare, illegally donating to her nephew and living illegally in your country. Barry says he was totally unaware of her existence, even though she was apparently invited and attended his 2005 swearing in and did so.


12 posted on 11/02/2008 4:36:03 AM PST by jerod (They were pro-abortion, for gun control & wanted a cleaner environment at all cost - The NAZI party)
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To: Non-Sequitur
The clouds could part, angels could sound trumpets, and the mighty hand of God could decend from heaven bearing a copy of Obama’s birth certificate, and a considerable percentage of the people around here would still deny its existence.
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It is a very straight forward matter to provide a certified copy of a birth certificate. That Obama chose to appeal a court request for one is high suspicious.

13 posted on 11/02/2008 4:37:51 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: rodguy911
1. Many of us believe that Obama was born in Mombasa,Kenya

Evidence would be nice.

2. That Granny Obama swears that she witnessed his birth and is so happy "her grandson who was born here will now be president."

And has anyone actually seen this tape where she says this? Seen a transcript? Affidavit? Anything at all except rumor?

3. Many of us also believe that the BC offered on the web is phony and that Internet experts like techdude have more than proved it to be a phony

And just who the hell is techdude and what are his credentials?

4.That the true BC may have been dug up by Bill/Hill operatives keeping three copies and giving one to Phil Berg who is now suing the state of Pa. to keep Obozo off the ballot and the only reason the suit is progressing through the courts is because he holds that certificate not becuase of the shabby case he prepared,

The Berg suit got tossed out a week ago. So where's Berg's copy?

5. That Obama was adopted at age 6 by Lolo Soetoro,dunham/obama's second husband, has a background as a muslim and was schooled as such.

Even if true what does that have to do with Obama's Constitutional qualifications to be president?

6. That Obama went to Honolulu in the middle of a heated campaign only to secure the BC there which was sealed when he was adopted. He just wanted to make sure no on can get at it and that there was no incriminating intel at Granny Toots as well.

Yes. If you want to do something in secret send the candidate and swarms of reports. Good plan. </sarcasm>

14 posted on 11/02/2008 4:38:45 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: wintertime
It is a very straight forward matter to provide a certified copy of a birth certificate. That Obama chose to appeal a court request for one is high suspicious.

The court didn't request it, Berg did. The court ruled that he had no standing to demand it and tossed the case out.

15 posted on 11/02/2008 4:40:34 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: ishabibble
Why did Obama rush to Hawaii last week? Sorry, but I'm not buying the “sick grandma” thing at all. I don't have an opinion about the birth certificate yet, but it surely is very suspicious, don't you think?

One week Obama announces he has to run off to Hawaii to comfort his "sick" grandmother, after it's announced someone requested to view his B.C. The next week he's in Hawaii where not one DBM reporter follows him to confirm his whereabouts. The very next week the Hawaiian Dept Of Health announces it has an Original "sealed" copy of his BC, which Obama will not let anyone see!

No, why should anyone with half a friggin brain be suspicious?

16 posted on 11/02/2008 4:41:04 AM PST by sirchtruth (Vote Conservative Repuplican!!)
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To: jerod
Why not concentrate on Barry O’s illegal aunt instead. That’s a real story, with real facts.

Yeah, lets beat up on the old lady. Pure genius.
17 posted on 11/02/2008 4:41:20 AM PST by cripplecreek (Paying taxes for bank bailouts is apparently the patriotic thing to do. [/sarc])
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To: tedbel

I think there are good chances that Obama was indeed born in Hawaii.

But I want to know what’s on his COLB that he doesn’t want us to see:
Is it because his given name wasn’t Barack Hussein Obama? Maybe Barry something?
Is it because it’s written that his religion is “Islam”?


18 posted on 11/02/2008 4:41:53 AM PST by syl799
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To: Peter Horry
What if the authorities, in Hawaii, simply affirmed that.

The have. Link

19 posted on 11/02/2008 4:42:13 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Adder
Its real simple: produce the damn thing and it all goes away. Whats so tough about that?

There's a second option; provide evidence that Obama wasn't born in the U.S. and it makes the birth certificate irrelevant. That seems to be the tough part.

20 posted on 11/02/2008 4:43:56 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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