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Say Goodbye to America
American Thinker ^ | November 03, 2008 | Noel Sheppard

Posted on 11/03/2008 6:15:58 AM PST by NCjim

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1 posted on 11/03/2008 6:15:59 AM PST by NCjim
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I’m a baby boomer and used to feel sorry for my children having to grow up in an America significantly different from the one of my youth; significantly different from the America my father fought for in WWII...things have moved so fast that I now feel sorry for myself, having to contend with the direction the country is taking (NAFTA, North America Union, illegal immigration, socialist leaders, etc.)...it’s enough to make you quite ill...


2 posted on 11/03/2008 6:19:49 AM PST by choctaw man (choctaw man)
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The Socialist states should be separated from the American states, in a peaceful way, if possible. We do not share enough values to be a healthy nation.
And no one from the Socialist states should be allowed to leave those hell-holes when they are destitute and come to foul the American states. We can take that lesson from what has happened to NH and FL when liberal vermin from MA and NY infested those states, to the detriment of the original populations.


3 posted on 11/03/2008 6:20:31 AM PST by kittymyrib
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With this animosity will come a new level of hatred between those of differing political persuasions like nothing our country has experienced in the modern era.
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Is Walter Williams right?

Is it time to seek peaceful secession?


4 posted on 11/03/2008 6:20:42 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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Can you imagine the Rodney King-style rioting that might occur as a result, especially when folks like Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Chuck Schumer, and the usual suspects get in front of television cameras blaming Republicans and John McCain for stealing another election, this time from a black man? They'll be on all the morning shows Wednesday doing what they do best: fomenting hate, and pointing fingers.

I hope to God they would do no such thing, but if they do, I'll be locked and loaded.

5 posted on 11/03/2008 6:21:07 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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Sumof a biscuit! I never thought race was what POTUS was ALL about. Musta been really a naive sucker my entire life.


6 posted on 11/03/2008 6:23:25 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, Call 'em what you will, they ALL have Fairies livin' in their Trees.)
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To: wintertime

There will be no such thing as peaceful secession, as the worthless federals won’t allow it.


7 posted on 11/03/2008 6:24:50 AM PST by hardhead
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To: NCjim
The left said goodbye to America a long time ago.

It's up to the rest of us to keep it alive.

8 posted on 11/03/2008 6:25:15 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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The racial aspect will make it even worse, either way. The problem with running a black liberal for national office is that the liberal actions will confirm stereotypes whites have, if he wins. If he loses it will be called white racism. Either outcome is dividing.
9 posted on 11/03/2008 6:25:31 AM PST by sickoflibs ( Obama's "95% Middle Class" ="those not paying taxes who deserve YOUR wealth")
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So in other words we had better Hope that Obama wins, otherwise we will be in big trouble...

That’s just great...fabulous...

The media (every one of them) will be so afraid (yet hopeful for rioting) that they will not even utter the phrase tomorrow night, “It’s just too close to call!”, but rather we’ll hear, “Looks like Obama has squeeked out another state!” and leave it at that...

Yeah, we better hope...Because if the mentality is to have another set of Rodney King riots all over the country that that would only be good for the media, yet bad for us who have to deal with that nonsense...

It’s just going to be sad anyway you look at it...


10 posted on 11/03/2008 6:27:07 AM PST by stevie_d_64
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What overdramatic c.r.a.p. No doubt if Zero wins America is changed permanently. But McCain's victory will be a stay of execution. There is still hope if McCain wins, but conservatives of all stripes have to have a sit down and make some strategic decisions, agree on an agenda similar to how Newt nationalized the '04 elections. Issues will be left on the side, people will be unhappy. They'll have to suck it up and save it for another day.

Can that be done or will conservatives just start whining like libs did in '04? There is no tears in politics. The America we know, that was fought for, that saved other nations from doom, that saved the world from tryanny, that seeks to give the motivated a fair shot at success, doesn't have to die unless we let it.

11 posted on 11/03/2008 6:27:48 AM PST by The Hound Passer
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To: wintertime
The answer to your question is, Yes it's time.

No matter who wins, it's time to split.

12 posted on 11/03/2008 6:27:49 AM PST by Licensed-To-Carry (Time to dig out the pitchforks and torches...............)
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To: choctaw man

NAFTA. Al Gore cast the deciding vote. Bush the 1st started it and Clinton finished it. I always said that when Clinton and Bob Dole stood side by side on NAFTA, it couldn’t be good for the rest of us.


13 posted on 11/03/2008 6:29:04 AM PST by Terry Mross (If Obama wins this may be my last post.)
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Well, he's right if its a zero sum game WITHOUT the ability to win the war. ..BUT IT IS NOT! The point is GOOD wins over EVIL. . .IF. . .Good gets off it's ass and DEFEATS evil. We must defeat evil in America and WIN THE HEARTS AND MINDS of enough Americans so that they stop electing EVIL and that they stop watching media that promotes evil.

Its not Dem vs. Republican. . .it's good vs. evil. ..GOOD MUST TRIUMPH. ..not apologize that there is a war!

14 posted on 11/03/2008 6:29:56 AM PST by McBuff
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A long read, but pretty much right on the mark.


16 posted on 11/03/2008 6:33:40 AM PST by ImpBill (Proud little "r" republican!)
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“Whoever the losers, they will believe they were cheated, and will point fingers at those they believe responsible. Almost half the nation will view the winner as illegitimate, and will do everything in their power to undermine his authority as long as he’s in the White House.”
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Conservatives are not liberals. Liberals tried to undermine Pres. Bush even as we have troops in combat and their “dissent” strengthened our enemies and caused US deaths. Conservatives will point out differences and work to win the next round of elections but we will not call names or snipe at every little thing the way that the anti-American libs did. If Obama is the President then the terrorists will seek to divide us through him and we should resist.

If Obama wins, the people have spoken and we will have to take every opportunity to show the country that our ideas are more prodictive and more in line with the Founders. I, for one, will not carry on with, “America is over” sort of talk that will embolden those who wish to kill us and claim that the “American Experiment” does not work. Instead, I will use my voice to rationally have an effect on policy and show our enemies through the ballot box in 2010 that the American experiment is alive and well.


17 posted on 11/03/2008 6:38:06 AM PST by awake-n-angry
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Almost half the nation will view the winner as illegitimate, and will do everything in their power to undermine his authority as long as he's in the White House.

You mean like the last eight years?

With the exception of a brief interlude for 9/11, that is exactly what we have faced for the last two presidential terms, and another would be no real surprise.

The Socialists in academia have nurtured this division, and the partisans in the Democrat and Socialist Media have fed the delusion to the masses.

Until we get the hyphens out, a fair proportion of the population will place their special interest well ahead of being American. That will be our undoing.

18 posted on 11/03/2008 6:41:15 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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reenactment of the Boston Tea Party is staged,
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Yeah right! When your neighbor is your spy and the Marxists control all communication.

The best anyone could do would be write out “Atlas Shrugged” on toilet paper and pass it around. (If there is any toilet paper.)


19 posted on 11/03/2008 6:44:29 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: Licensed-To-Carry

I’d rather call it a divorce, for sometimes couples find each other again!


20 posted on 11/03/2008 6:45:30 AM PST by sciencefreeper
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