Posted on 11/03/2008 10:59:19 PM PST by No Dems 2004
(parentheses from yesterday's results)
Pennsylvania (22)
Nov. 3: Obama 51.2% (53.7%) / McCain 41.4% (40.0%) - McCain gains 3.9%
Ohio (20)
Nov. 3: Obama 49.4% (50.2%) / McCain 47.4% (43.9%) - McCain gains 4.3%
Virginia (13)
Nov. 3: Obama 51.7% (50.7%) / McCain: 45.3% (44.6%) - McCain loses 0.3%
Nevada (5)
Nov. 3: Obama 53.2% (50.7%) / McCain 42.4% (42.9%) - McCain loses 3.0%
Florida (27)
Nov. 3: Obama 49.2% (47.5%) / McCain 48.0% (46.2%) - McCain gains 0.1%
Missouri (11)
Nov. 3: Obama 48.8% (47.4%) / McCain 48.8% (45.7%) - McCain gains 1.7%
(McCain still leads in North Carolina and Indiana, albeit barely)
(Excerpt) Read more at zogby.com ...
Traditionally, the campaigns have been about the candidate and his ideas. Thoughtful discourse, e.g. debates, speeches, pundit analysis characterized these campaigns. At the present, that is still my notion of a political campaign.
What you are saying is this quadrennial election thingy has become in essence a race between competing ad campaigns marketing a brand, which happens to include a candidate and its ideas, but with copious amouts of fluff rhymes with Plouffe.
Fat on style, lean on substance this new age of the campaign.
My question concerns whether the very ideas being marked are themselves more or less amenable to fitting to such a framework. Did it work (win or lose, it was effective) for Democrats because of the postmodern, nihilistic "anything goes, there is no ultimate purpose" ideology? The same that seems to drive the entertainment industry?
This could become a very interesting and enlightening topic moving forward.
Tomorrow night that will be President-Elect McCain.
No, my reply was a reply to your reply to this:
“When all things are equal (or pretty level), style will win out over substance, youth over old-age, and humor over seriousness. McCain never had a chance.”
The guy is humorless as a baked potato.
Your punk will excuse me if I'm not going to be liking "everybody" for some time and will be taking a loaded revolver with me everytime I answer the door - thanks to the shady fellow who popped up out of nowhere and frauded himself all the way to Pennsylvania Ave. An Obama Presidency would breed distrust, as red-blooded patriots fight to preserve the America they love and grew up in. Facts are facts, and many people do not take kindly to imposed change.
To answer your question I believe yes. What we are seeing for the first time is the real impression of the 1990s generation...an extremely selfish and overloaded memory group of people.
They have a hard time appreciating anything of real susbstance and their brains have been filled with nothing but flash their entire lives courtesy of MTV Networks and Viacom added in with the computer/internet age of instant gratification equates to throwing out old models and starting new.
In the last 4 years we lost millions of people who were still around to tell stories to their grandkids and students of what life was like during World War 2 and the Korean War. We are now starting to lose some of the Vietnam era groups of people as they enter their early 70s. We are losing substance and gaining something else...something we are witnessing across the country...accepted socialism without regard to history.
Everything those who came before us fought for is dying or being stripped from us and to 80,000 seat stadiums filled with cheering sheep.
I am with you. If people thought Waco was something...just wait.
“When all things are equal (or pretty level), style will win out over substance, youth over old-age, and humor over seriousness. McCain never had a chance”.
...you sir, are a fool! In the “humor over seriousness” category, McCain wins hands down. “Youth Over Old Age” rarely played into it.
Toast - Why Obama Will Lose and the Political Analysts Will Be Destroyed
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2124448/posts
McCain-Palin 310 Obama-Biden 228 (Thanks to the PUMAs)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2124045/posts
Obama = Looser.
Think you got that backwards. Obama as a brand name and a personality is nothing if not overexposed at this point.
That is disgusting , childish, and beneath FR.
No, they have hidden rather than over-exposed his personality. His inner motivations and beliefs have been hidden, much like Biden was under wraps in the past few weeks. He is a socialist, contrary to what they say, and his victory will allow the real person to come out, like the cartoon monster who morfs out of the meek child.
I love my party, like McCain even if he wasn't my first choice in the primary, but I think that he's going to lose. I'm going to vote in the next hour and it will be the last thing I can do for him. He had a great energy level for a 72-year-old man but I don't think people ever took him as seriously as they should have. I would love to be wrong, gladly call myself a "fool" if he were to lose, but just don't see it in the cards.
From your mouth to God’s ear...
Lovely language so early in the morning... Better save it for the Obama people at the polls.
FR has become as vulgar and crude as the rest of the country. Vicious, truly vicious. Problem is, FR anger isn’t going to change the path we are on today or the socialist course America seems to be choosing.
His angry wife, “sister from the hood” will come out of her closet. Nasty.... with threats of Riots at her command.
My fear is he lets the muslim world (his friends) know that they can take one free shot and we will not respond, and they will take it with a nuke in LA or NY harbor. This is what Biden was talking about.
Will he take the oath on a Koran or a bible? Will Rev Wright and Lou Farrakhan be at the inauguration?
Btw, as one of the few who's been here longer than you, Freepers of recent vintage weren't here for the wars we went through to make this site what it is today. Before criticizing a Freeper, I always check the date of their joining. Anyone here prior to 2000 deserves respectful disagreement, not putdowns.
With credibility on the line, it’s time to tell the truth, or in this case, get closer to the truth.
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