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78 percent of U.S. Hispanics favor Obama over McCain (La Amnestya)
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Posted on 11/04/2008 7:01:56 AM PST by VU4G10
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To: VU4G10
I don't believe it. My wife is Puerto Rican (admittedly a different group than the huge population of Mexicans). She talks to a lot of other hispanics that don't like Obama. In general, Hispanics and Blacks do not like each other (not my wife. she is fair). At the tag office where my sister-n-law works, the Mexican lady (more obviously hispanic than my sister-n-law) routinely gets talked down to by blacks, but is treated respectfully by whites. Apparently, this is very common.
I don't understand it. But, that is the facts. It might reflect on their votes today.
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posted on
11/04/2008 7:48:36 AM PST
by
FreeAtlanta
(NOBAMA - it is for our future)
To: Personal Responsibility
McCain is the best friend the Amnesty crowd could ask for! McCain was out-hispandered by Obama from the get go.
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posted on
11/04/2008 7:49:25 AM PST
by
TADSLOS
(Duncan Hunter Is Now One Vote Closer to POTUS!)
To: sunmars
sorry but that reeks of total bullsheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.Include me in that, along with all the rest. Disinformation pure and simple.
And thanks to our Hispanic posters for chiming in with Real World experiences.
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posted on
11/04/2008 7:50:11 AM PST
by
Oatka
("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
To: AngelesCrestHighway
Really? Because the last Amnesty bill was named McCain-Kennedy not Obama-Kennedy. With McCain we get a open-borders Globalist D-bag and Obama we get a open-borders Communist and with Chuck Baldwin we get a Sovereignty loving Constitutionalist
To: RealityDude08
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posted on
11/04/2008 7:56:47 AM PST
by
dragonblustar
(Once abolish the God, and the government becomes the God - G. K. Chesterton)
To: VU4G10
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posted on
11/04/2008 8:02:33 AM PST
by
Salvation
( †With God all things are possible.†)
To: VU4G10
What I say might not be to popular around here. But I do think our side did alienate a segment of the Hispanic community with the immigration battles of the last few years. I think even most 2nd generation and 3rd generation Hispanic Americans agree the borders need to be tighten. They don't like their tax dollars paying for the illegals heath care, education while short changing their own families. BUT, some on our side used the issue to blanket a whole group of people and used it as a racial wedge issue and fair minded people on our side did not call them out on it.
It's a shame because most Hispanics are conservative at heart. Down here, many are very successful business people that hate the tax system. They go to church and believe abortion and gay marriage is wrong. Many of them are strong 2nd amendment people and don't tolerate slackers. And we had them supporting our side more and more until the immigration debate. What some here don't understand is they viewed some of rhetoric as an attack on their hertiage. Sort of like the way blacks see when a white person waives the Confederate flag while saying “ The South will rise again.” True, some of them came over as illegals as children but worked their asses off and became citizens and even joined our military. Perhaps they could relate and hope that some of those same children would do the same as them. Anyhow, they saw it as an all attack on them and that is why we have know surrendered a voting bloc that was coming our way that could have helped us counter the voting blocs of the Rats.
If the GOP would have taken a better PR track in the immigration debate, Colorado, New Mexico and Nevada would not be an issue this year. Heck, even California might have been closer and that would have helped GOP candidates in that state.
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posted on
11/04/2008 8:03:46 AM PST
by
The South Texan
(The Drive By Media is America's worst enemy and American people don't know it.)
Hispanics do not hate blacks. Some of you talk if you want that to be the case.
To: The South Texan
Would not made a bit of difference. As long as Republicans are perceived as the party of the rich and big business, they will lose with minorities.
To: bluebunny
“Would not made a bit of difference. As long as Republicans are perceived as the party of the rich and big business, they will lose with minorities”
Only because we allow that to be the perception and really we don't fight back reality. Case in point this election cycle, Wall Street poured more money into Obama than McCain and Hillary's campaigns. The highest income areas in Northeast and California will probably vote for Obama.
But back to the Hispanic thing. Of all the minority groups in this country, the last two decades or so, they have made the biggest gains in corporate America and other areas to where they've become “rich.” They were (and still are) a segment the GOP should be attracting. Our side is going to have to regroup and decide if we are going to be the “All White” party or if we are going to adapt to the changing demographics and welcome this segment into our party. The blacks are too long gone and we are wasting our time with that effort.
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posted on
11/04/2008 8:29:04 AM PST
by
The South Texan
(The Drive By Media is America's worst enemy and American people don't know it.)
To: TADSLOS; Personal Responsibility
McCain was out-hispandered by Obama from the get go.
Not by much, there is barely a dime's worth of diffence between them no this issue.
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posted on
11/04/2008 8:39:03 AM PST
by
SoConPubbie
(GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
To: VU4G10
We are talking about Zogby here. I don’t buy it. More likely 32-34% Hispanic vote for McCain. This is closer to the historical norm of late.
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posted on
11/04/2008 9:31:47 AM PST
by
princeofdarkness
(Ronald Reagan- "Trust But Verify" MSM- "Report, Lie, Then Crucify")
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