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To: Republican Extremist

Don’t hold your breath. Businessmen are realists, not revolutionaries. Buffet and Gates both came out for Obama and they’re just the spokesmen. Ayn Rand had an idealistic vision of what capitalists were but in the end they won’t upset the apple cart. Sorry to burst your illusion.


48 posted on 11/04/2008 7:40:16 PM PST by saganite (I for one welcome our new Socialist masters /s/)
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To: saganite
Don’t hold your breath. Businessmen are realists, not revolutionaries. Buffet and Gates both came out for Obama and they’re just the spokesmen. Ayn Rand had an idealistic vision of what capitalists were but in the end they won’t upset the apple cart. Sorry to burst your illusion.

I have no illusions here. Gates has money because people buy his operating system. Buffett has money because people buy products from the companies he owns in his holding company, Berkshire Hathaway. You don't think they cannot be hurt?

I've been in investments for over 20 years managing people's money. I know what happened to all of those "green funds" that attracted money to ease guilt, but were horrible performers to the investors in them. I'm not talking about doing that. I'm talking about taking capital away from leftists, and giving it to corporations, and states who share our principles of free markets and low taxation. Free market caitalists would tend to be better companies to invest in anyway, from a return standpoint.

I'm also talking about a revolution where we publically announce our intentions, and make it clear to those who suffer from our decisions exactly why we are doing what we are doing.

Call it a capitalistic slap up-side the head.

72 posted on 11/04/2008 8:00:55 PM PST by Republican Extremist
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To: saganite

“Businessmen are realists, not revolutionaries. Sorry to burst your illusion.”

Businessmen are both.

Bill Gates and Buffet are hardly representative of most American businessmen. The ultra-wealthy fast become frickin’ eccentric paranoid weirdo’s. They are biologically predisposed to a CYA mentality — whose heads do you suppose would be first on the socialist chopping block? Don’t you think they can see the writing on the wall?

I’ll say the same to you: Talk to me in 2 or 3 years.

Besides, it would only take a small percentage of businesses to have a major impact.

There are mercantilists out there, I know. You saw a few very large ones fall after the socialist failure of F&F — it was beautiful to see them burst into flame and fall to earth. You play with fire (socialist Democrats and their “promises”) — you get burned.


93 posted on 11/04/2008 8:35:15 PM PST by Boucheau (A wise & frugal gov't...shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. T. Jefferson)
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To: saganite
The big boys are what you say, so that is why we can't count on them. Soros, Gates, Buffet, the one slime bucket in charge of GE, all of those buttwipes can stick it in their rich a$$e$. The small businesses are what will do the trick. If enough of those simply say, "I quit", it will have the desired effect.

In a previous life, I was a partner in an engineering consulting firm. I left that some time ago and sold my interest to my partner. I talked with him just this morning. They are making plans. Looking at downsizing, moving things offshore, outsourcing as much as they can. When I worked with him we did our best to avoid doing this kind of thing. We felt a sense of obligation to our employees and our country. We felt the sense of ownership in our country, our way of life, the things we felt our fellow citizens stood with us on, and that sense is what drove our desire for loyalty and pride, which translated in to how we ran our business.

Well, no longer. All that is finished. The is one small change that Oboma has wrought. Let him deal with the consequences. He said he would make everything all right for everyone in The Best Of All Possible Worlds. Well, he can have at it.

137 posted on 11/05/2008 5:13:21 AM PST by chimera
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