Posted on 11/05/2008 1:59:20 PM PST by samsmom
Yeah, I think it's time to listen to music. He's the only one on in that time slot in the Chicago market so I usually listen, but I think I've had it with him.
For starters and before anybody right of center could do anything else meaningful in this country, we have to break the power of the NEA and govt. schools. Nobody could hope to prevail in any sort of a culture war while sending their children off to the enemy for indoctrination.
I agree. It’s like we’ve been showing up for gun fights unarmed, it’s time to fight back on the their level.
Yes! I am all for this. I have been saying forever we need to employ their tactics against them.
First off, start calling Hussein by his middle name just as Pres Bush was called dubya. Never refer to Hussein as anything but his middle name, Hussein. Option two is call him Hussein II. Muslims are dancing in the streets as middle east money just bought the US presidency for a clown without a clue. Lots of stupid people in the country but not as many as in Mexico—maybe. Middle east terrorists have successfully duped americans into electing their choice. They have divided the populace, manipulated the press, cultivated the ignorance of voters to their favor and put their chosen Hussein in office again.
No. Let’s dump you, so we can calmly plot a come back without a lot of backstabbing.
I agree.
What’s wrong with mobilizing the masses? We did that once as conservatives and it worked. However, the GOP will not be able to do it again, conservatism will be left to another party.
Obama ran like General Petraus (sp?) fights. He took over territory, ran down the enemy and stayed in the territory doing community projects and reaching out to the citizens. Won the hearts and minds, very grassroots.
Im with you 100% - let us start to develop our ideas and principles on how we can apply his rules and principles. These work period - it will take time to infiltrate but we must move forward - incrementalism is the key - lets not focus on change overnight but over the next decade.
I did read your post. Alternatives to government schools are fine, I went to Catholic schools K-12 and got a great education.
My youngest son got a scholarship from a college that's pretty liberal (most are). He's learning first hand of how to deal with these folks and it's cementing his conservative identity. For the most part, political affiliation is not an issue, but he does see the liberals acting badly and has related those incidences to me.
Alinsky's tactics utilize lies and deceit and I am so disgusted from dealing with moonbats that are disciples of that man. Because of his "training" that he gave to some inner city ministers back in 1964 here in Rochester, we've had two generations of staged "victimhood" protests and those neighborhoods where the ministers are located have gotten worse, not better.
We reap what we sow and I for one am totally opposed to adopting Alinsky's tactics, the man was a Marxist for gosh sakes!
I think I will volunteer as a double agent with ACORN next time around.
I've been trying to think of ideas for how to break the government school monopoly. Homeschooling and private schooling are great (my kids go to a hybrid of these two) but many can't afford or aren't cut out for that. So conservatives have GOT to figure out some alternatives and get organized on how to free these kids from the indoctrination camps that public schools have become. I was puzzling the other day about how it could be done, who would pay for it, etc. I'm in favor of vouchers, but think the chances are slim to none they would be enacted in the next four years. I also feel a little nervous about them because there is still government money involved. I would like to make private Christian education available for any child in the country who wants it. I wish we had a special forum for those at FR interested in talking about this idea.
Will M E D V(for vindicated NOT)E D, ever admit he was wrong? No his huge ego and flawed character won't allow it. He hasn't even mentioned his involvement in pushing McCain on conservatives and Republicans who largely disliked him. And he's on the radio today acting like he's some kind of great leader in the conservative movement who has to cheer up the base after a tremendous loss that he helped orchestrate. Nauseating to say the least.
Comebacks are not “plotted”... they are engineered.
Correction to my post, I agree to what was said about freeing up government schools. I don’t agree with using Alinsky’s tactics.
As an old YAFer and proud member of the DC chapter of FR, I know that organizing and activism are important.
* “Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more live up to their own rules than the Christian Church can live up to Christianity.”[75] * “No organization, including organized religion, can live up to the letter of its own book. You can club them to death with their ‘book’ of rules and regulations.”[76] * “Practically all people live in a world of contradictions. They espouse a morality which they do not practice.… This dilemma can and should be fully utilized by the organizer in getting individuals and groups involved in a People’s Organization. It is a very definite Achilles’ heel even in the most materialistic person. Caught in the trap of his own contradictions, that person will find it difficult to show satisfactory cause to both the organizer and himself as to why he should not join and participate in the organization. He will be driven either to participation or else to a public and private admission of his own lack of faith in democracy and man.”[77]
In this passage, Alinsky is saying we should pound Obama for his words of “I am my brother’s keeper” and the facts we know about his brother and aunt.
Most of this stuff we should be able to turn around and use against him.
Moreover, said Alinsky, whenever possible the organizer must deride his enemy and dismiss him as someone unworthy of being taken seriously because he is either intellectually deficient or morally bankrupt. “The enemy properly goaded and guided in his reaction will be your major strength,” said Alinsky.[79] He advised organizers to “laugh at the enemy” in an effort to provoke “an irrational anger.”[80] “Ridicule,” said Alinsky, “is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage.”[81]
Another “can-do-easy” piece of advice for handling Obama from his mentor. This stuff’s easy!
The one thing area where I totally disagree with Rush Limbaugh is his assertion that conservatives don’t do protest rallies, because we’re responsible citizens who have jobs, families, etc. This stance assumes that every liberal who shows up for a protest rally is a bum with no job.
I’m not saying that conservatives should constantly hold protest rallies over every litle thing that upsets us. But we should pick our spots and take to the streets in great numbers over certain issues that are important to us. For example, when the NY Times exposed information about tracking terrorists there should have been a massive protest in Times Square. And if the Democrats try to bring back the Fairness Doctrine, we need to do 5 million man march on Washington.
The problem is that we conservatives have no experience organizing these kind of rallies. We just accept the idea that America is a center/right country and everything will just fall into place for us. What we’re actually doing is giving up the moral high ground to liberals who come across as the only people who feel passionate enough about their beliefs to take to the streets to try to make the world a better place.
It also really bothers me how the Republican party is so pathetically sporadic when it comes to criticizing liberal bias in the media. There are conservative media watchdog groups that do painstaking work tallying liberal bias in the media. Would it kill Republican politicians to cite some of these statistics on a regular basis to remind voters that we’re not just being paranoid?
We have a media that is completely dedicated to propping up one political party and tearing down the other. And the Republican party acts like they better not complain about it too much or they’ll come across as cry babies. John McCain’s campaign was a textbook example of this kind of attitude.
The media has never had to work so hard to promote a candidate with so little experience and so many negative stories as they did with Obama. McCain could have had a field day pointing out all of the stories about Obama that the media tried to suppress. He had the ear of the American people, but he refused to do it.
The bottom line is that sitting around and waiting for a Jimmy Carter like failure on the part of a liberal president is not our only option. But we need the help of the big guns like Rush and the RNC. If they’ve got no incentive to change tactics, then I just don’t see how we can do it on our own.
Last week I think I heard Medved say that back when he was a liberal he voted for Carter. Maybe you can’t ever recover totally from stupid.
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