[mick]

Good article. The only difference I have with it's conclusion is the timing. These tactics were used here successfully since 1932 and our running it's course. History plays out in waves. The wave is spent. Obama will be our Gorbachev. Trying to save a dying system. Ans my evidence for this is that these questions are being asked. Up until now the socialist were changing our country through stealth. Roosevelt's New Deal, and Johnson's Great Society were pure socialism...but nobody in public accused them of it. It is different now. We are actually debating if BO is a socialist. This is new. And the ONLY HOPE for a economic collapse is in the premise that we blame the right cause. Amity Shlaes’s book “The Forgotten Man” debunking FDR , Joe The Plumber calling BO a socialist are, Sarah P emerging are all evidence that the end is coming for the collectivists....just like it came to the USSR........THAT IS THE BATTLE.......to blame collectivism for the coming collapse

[bereanway]

At this point it’s hard for me to get a feel for how quickly and how far zer0 and his enablers plan to move. He has many that have gone along with him so far, but will they stay with him if he begins to implement ideas such as the civilian security force. The one fear I have is now that the socialists having gained control of the executive and legislative branches will in the case of a complete financial implosion institute draconian measures which would make any hope of a free and open election a pipe dream. At that point it would take at least the real possibility of a violent overthrow to restore limited government.

I have a feeling that as a first step state’s rights are going to be tested if and when he attempts to institue this civilian security force. I would only hope that certain governors would at that point draw a line in the sand.