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'Constitutional crisis' looming over Obama's birth location
WND ^ | 11/15/08 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 11/15/2008 9:43:51 AM PST by pissant

The California secretary of state should refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until President-elect Barack Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office, alleges a California court petition filed on behalf of former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others.

The legal action today is just the latest is a series of challenges, some of which have gone as high as the U.S. Supreme Court, over the issue of Obama's status as a "natural-born citizen," a requirement set by the U.S. Constitution.

WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi even traveled to Kenya and Hawaii prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama's birth. But his research and discoveries only raised more questions.

The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists, simply hasn't ordered it made available to settle the rumors.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bc; bho2008; birthcertificate; carpetbaggerkeyes; certifigate; conspiracytheory; corsi; crackpottery; getalife; hawaii; kenya; larrysinclairslover; moonbattery; obama; obamagate; obamatransitionfile; wacko; wingnutdaily; worldnutdaily
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The more lawsuits against the marxist, the better.
1 posted on 11/15/2008 9:43:51 AM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2132471/posts

Over 550 posts in Breaking News already...

I highly doubt this much ado is going anywhere.


2 posted on 11/15/2008 9:46:37 AM PST by Choose Ye This Day (Obama has the kind of cocksure confidence that can only be achieved by not achieving anything.)
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To: Hiskid

Ping for truth to be revealed.


3 posted on 11/15/2008 9:47:44 AM PST by Faith
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To: pissant

The game is afoot.


4 posted on 11/15/2008 9:49:57 AM PST by TheThinker (It is the natural tendency of government to gravitate towards tyranny.)
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To: pissant
It is my belief that Bambi's handlers know full well that he is NOT native born. I also believe that they will continue to hide that fact as long as the mASSiah does exactly what he is told. If he challenges them, they will make the truth known. We have truly elected the Manchurian candidate.

On a side note ... I do not want to hear that the MSM selected this guy ... I want the names of the criminals/traitors/enemy agents that foisted this impostor

5 posted on 11/15/2008 9:50:41 AM PST by clamper1797 (BHO ... the 'H" stands for hubris)
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To: pissant

Yes. If this birth certificate business is just a tinfoil delusion, then what explanation can possibly be given why Obama refuses to release his birth certificate?

Talk about stealth candidates. He has gotten all this way, basically, without releasing a single record from his past, without allowing any of his relatives except his wife to be interviewed during the past year or so, without permitting any of his friends or connections to be interviewed, and without any effort whatever by the so-called press to dig into this mysterious missing background.

Yes, he has released two semi-fictional, ghost-written autobiographies. Even those contain many embarrassing details, which the left wing media naturally refuse to talk about. But they presumably cover up much more, and lie whenever convenient.

Obama already has as remarkable a record of certifiable lies on record as Bill Clinton, and he’s just getting started.

Sure, WND is WND, but the more noise ANYBODY makes about this scandalous situation, the better.


6 posted on 11/15/2008 9:53:40 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
"I highly doubt this much ado is going anywhere"

What are you doing?


7 posted on 11/15/2008 9:53:55 AM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

You’re doing all you can to stop it. Quit posting messages which hint that nothing can be done.

Stop it. You are getting on my nerves.


8 posted on 11/15/2008 9:54:38 AM PST by i_dont_chat
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To: Choose Ye This Day
The issue here is how do we define a "Natural Born Citizen". Check this out:



Natural Born Citizen Act Summary


PURPOSE: To define the term “natural born Citizen” as used in the Constitution to include three categories:

(1) Any person born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,

(2) Any person born outside the United States to a U.S. citizen parent or parents who are eligible to transmit citizenship, and

(3) Any person adopted by the age of 18 by a U.S. citizen parent or parents who are otherwise eligible to transmit citizenship to a biological child.

This bill is intended to clarify the term and end uncertainty about the eligibility requirements to run for the Office of the Presidency. The definition of this term is an issue that has been debated in legal circles for years and has never been ruled on by the courts. Clarification is needed before this becomes a real issue. Congress should be the institution that defines this term, not the courts.

Congressional Authority:

In the absence of a judicial interpretation of Constitutional language, Congress can express a legislative interpretation of Constitutional terms. A federal court would likely give great deference to Congress’ interpretation. The Congress also has broad authority regarding issues of citizenship. Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution grants authority to Congress to “establish a uniform rule of naturalization.” Several federal judicial decisions recognize Congress’ plenary powers regarding issues pertaining to citizenship that do not specifically fit under the Fourteenth Amendment. Notably Rogers v. Bellei (401 US 815) and US v. Wong Kim Ark (169 US 649) say that Congress has the power to regulate matters pertaining to citizenship not specifically defined by the Fourteenth Amendment.

In addition, Congress has previously used their naturalization power to define the term “natural born” as used in a statute. In the Naturalization Act of 1790 Congress defined “natural born” to include children born abroad to citizen parents. Although the language was not kept in later naturalization laws, that specific language was not challenged.

Persons Born Outside the United States to Citizen Parents:

This bill clarifies that the term “natural born Citizen” includes children born outside the United States to citizen parents. This provision provides comfort and certainty to members of the American military and foreign services, as well as expatriate families, that their children, too, are eligible to run for president. These children are no less qualified than children born on American soil, and they should not be treated differently. Of course, children born to American citizens abroad would only be eligible to run for president if they satisfied the fourteen year residency requirement in addition to the “natural born” requirement.

Support for the position that the term “natural born Citizen” should include children born outside the United States to citizen parents is particularly well articulated in a law review article by Jill A. Pryor entitled The Natural-Born Citizen Clause and Presidential Eligibility: An Approach for Resolving Two Hundred Years of Uncertainty. This article argues that “any person with a right to American citizenship under the Constitution, laws or treaties of the United States at the time of his or her birth is a natural-born citizen for purposes of presidential eligibility.”

Persons Adopted by Age 18 by a Citizen Parent:

This bill also ensures that children adopted by citizen parents, who are full-fledged members of American families are treated the same as if they were the biological children of American parents born abroad. Under adoption law, adopted children are to be treated as natural issue of their adoptive parents. They are to be accorded the same rights, duties and responsibilities as biological children. They are being raised by Americans in America. Adopted children of American citizens should be allowed the same opportunity as biological children to pursue all their dreams. They should be afforded the chance to give back to this country by serving in its highest office.
9 posted on 11/15/2008 9:55:56 AM PST by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: pissant

That’s what I’m thinkin’. If enough suits are filed, maybe somebody somewhere will start to actually use their brains.


10 posted on 11/15/2008 9:56:21 AM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: Faith

Is this what B.O. means..... when he says, the Constitution is fatally flawed?


11 posted on 11/15/2008 9:56:40 AM PST by kactus
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To: Cicero

bttt


12 posted on 11/15/2008 9:57:36 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: pissant
Great. We want to overthrow the democratically elected President over a technicality? Yea, that will really score points. This whole birth certificate thing is embarrassing. It makes us look like a bunch a wackos. It was just noise that helped to cover over the really serious questions about Obama like Ayers, Wright and embracing socialism. The MSM said “hey these people are nutballs. Just look at all this conspiracy stuff about Obama’s birth certificate. So don't listen to them talking about Ayers because their just nutballs.”
13 posted on 11/15/2008 9:58:34 AM PST by willk
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You don’t think it’s significant that Obama may not even be a naturalized American citizen?


14 posted on 11/15/2008 10:00:16 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: willk

A technicality? ROFL. Yes, just a minor requirement to be CIC.


15 posted on 11/15/2008 10:01:44 AM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Fun stuff but besides the point. But having fun is a good idea.


16 posted on 11/15/2008 10:02:28 AM PST by sickoflibs ( Have we had enough loss and humiliation? Then what do we stand for?)
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To: willk

ANd please be sure to ping us all for all the ‘important’ subject threads that you wish to put on the table. We anxiously await.


17 posted on 11/15/2008 10:03:10 AM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: willk

A technicality? Is the First Amendment a technicality also? Rules are rules. If Obie doesn’t meet the criteria to be a U.S President, then I don’t care how overwhelming his victory was. He shouldn’t be allowed to take the Oath of Office.


18 posted on 11/15/2008 10:13:20 AM PST by joejm65
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Your attitude is off the mark. It does not matter if you think one particular straw will break the camel’s back. All you need to know is that a single straw in tandem with many others WILL break the camel’s back. Do not diminish the single straw when you know what the outcome of the many will be. Support each straw and bring them to rest where they belong and the desired outcome will happen.


19 posted on 11/15/2008 10:15:16 AM PST by johnnycap
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To: pissant

If Obama is not a US citizen then Obama, his campaign and select members of the Democrat Party have commited treason and have attempted a coup.

We already the ACORN scam and the overseas funding problem that NO ONE cares about in the media or republican party.


20 posted on 11/15/2008 10:15:39 AM PST by stockpirate ($300 MDUS in illegal donations to O's campaign. Stolen election, where's the outrage?)
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